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Thread: How will we eventually be able to get to Master Level?

rols_cerentz
Mon Jun 30, 2003 1:53 pm
#14

So far, everytime that I have trained someone, I have only gotten 20 AXP points... At that rate, it will take... Let's see 600 divided by 20... equals 30 people to train. Perhaps if I am training them for higher skill levels it will pay off a little better...

I spent some time looking for people to train and I tell you what, I was only able to find two people. So, if I find 2 people in roughly 6 hours of gameplay of hanging out solely in 'Newb' areas and I need to train 30 people (Based upon current returns) it will take me roughly 90 hours of gameplay... Which means, I will be a Master Artisan in about 9 weeks or so.

Personally, I would rather that not take quite so long... I would be VERY happy if that only took about 4 weeks.

Of course, it is still early. So, anything could happen. I might be in luck in a few weeks and be all set with more people to train then I can shake a stick at.

It is just that right now, my initial impression is what I currently see.



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rols_cerentz
Mon Jun 30, 2003 2:05 pm
#15

I find plenty of people that want training, but VERY few with skill levels below my own. THey could all train me though...

Which is kind of sucky for me.

There is no lack of people to train, there is just a lack of people whose skills are lower then my own to train up.



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Rcuhljr
Mon Jun 30, 2003 2:14 pm
#16

wait so you don't have any of the branches mastered? why on earth are you worring about apprenticeship exp then? its just a bonus to pick up until you are ready to master.



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speardancer
Mon Jun 30, 2003 2:19 pm
#17

Just don't worry about it, and keep an eye out for opportunities.... just over this first weekend, I've got about half the Apprentice XP to get a master level, mainly from listening for people asking for training while I'm running those ever-so-fun fedex missions...

And don't forget, there's always the elite professions to train up in too.



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rols_cerentz
Mon Jun 30, 2003 2:35 pm
#18

I am concerned because I see that by the time I will be ready to Master, which is VERY close to happening, everyone else, or most everyone else will be Mastered and beyond where I am at. Which again, limits the opportunity for me to apprentice anyone...

Besides, it would be very nice to have all the AXP needed when reaching that level.



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Rcuhljr
Mon Jun 30, 2003 2:39 pm
#19

... As I said originally, there will always be a steady number of people needing training and up and coming in the ranks, I mean look at EQ (for a rough example) 4 years in and there are still plenty of people in their low levels, Or Dragon Realms (a text based MMORPG) where after 8 years there where still people to teach. This really is not a serious problem, and Why would you expect to instantly have all the exp you need for the next box as soon as you get there? I mean its not possible for any other skill why masteries? I am not saying that it isn't possible, because it is, but still.



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Tirranus
Mon Jun 30, 2003 6:06 pm
#20

I have a hard time not getting Apprentice XP. I don't advertise anything but thetitle under my head, and people ask me for training. I don't know how you've been avoiding it.




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Starblader
Sun Jan 04, 2004 2:50 am
#21

finding players to train must depend on the server atm?

but imo this "aprentice points system" is a flawed idea which is part of the root cause of many closed SWG accounts .

Having come from UO & DAoC ive been trying to persuade a lot of players to come to SWG but the main problem has been the players who have cancelled accounts due to SWG forcing players to rely on each other in so many areas. [and their negative views have put off many from trying it]

If this apprentice idea is essential to the game then an additional method of gaining these points should be implemented .

EG you sign as the apprentice to one master player.

the master player can then give you missions [from the aprenticeship mission creator in the datapad] that reward him and you with apprentice points.
Ignaba
Sun Jan 04, 2004 3:20 am
#22

Im also having a bad time getting to artisan master, I just give up for a few days and run round selling items. Ive been to Coronet and we have competition, sometimes 4 artisans all trying to train people. Some artisans offer 2000 if you let them train you, this cant be what Sony had in mind!


I tried to start an apprenticeship, I offered 3k of steel, copper, aluminium and ore with +14 crafting tools. I thought an apprenticeship was a superb idea, gathering good role play with an excellent start for a new player. I offered training (obviously) and guidance with any problems or questions. I emailed this to all the apprentice artisans I could find but still have had no answer, maybe I will have when I log on instead of crying on this board!


I did post an idea that you could grind the artisan xp in Universities infront of npc classes, like surveying (I know that sounds dull but its an option).

saintchuck
Sun Jan 04, 2004 3:06 pm
#23

Please don't necro-post



Jedi will be rare and difficult - No
Increased Dev communication - No
CU will balance combat - No
Most of the bugs from launch fixed - No
saintchuck will continue to pay - No

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DarkBoredOfTheSith
Sun Jan 04, 2004 5:57 pm
#24

I am a longway from gettingmaster artisan, have already reached 4-4-4-1 (Trandoshan Brawlers have low action/mindso surveying is taking a long time), and continueto get crafting experience from making my harvesters, etc.I already dropped my four domestic arts boxesand built them back up. You have never seen a more ecstatic person than when you ask someone who is a novice in an elite crafting profession if they can train you in all four boxes of a skill.


Hmmmm.........I think I see a business opportunity here.




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The1Paladin
Sun Jan 04, 2004 7:36 pm
#25

Funny, With all of my characters I have never a problem with having enough Apprentice points when the time came...Oh wait, could it be because I *DON'T* grind?.. Hmmm...Something to think about...



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tathacuk9371
Sun Jan 04, 2004 10:05 pm
#26

I have never had a problem. I got a guild friend who lets me train and re-train ranged support I over and over because she has about 20k combat xp and it only take 30 to train. I also never have trouble finding people to train but when I need ap fast I just ask her and I get it. that is of course my last resort but sorry I am not gonna go around paying people hundreds of thousands of credits to let me train them. Yes I do know people who thats how they make there living.



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