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Thread: TH shoots down Harvester Certs

OckVofad
Wed May 26, 2004 1:32 pm
#1

Well guys, if you read the new 19 answers thread, TH says "No" to Harv Certs. I understand your pain being a Master artisan myself but lets move on.


Im not going to go into the Harv Cert arguments. They have been done to death. Lets try to focus on what content you'd like to see added to artisans rather than removing content from others.


/flame on!



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joined42904
Wed May 26, 2004 1:51 pm
#2

Can you give some kind of link? I can't find the response.



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LoneWulff
Wed May 26, 2004 2:58 pm
#3

Actually, he didn't even respond to harvester certs.He said there are no current plans to enhance artisans in the near future.He didn't address harvester certs at all.
OckVofad
Wed May 26, 2004 3:21 pm
#4

You are right. he does not say specificly "NO HARV CERTS".But In "dev speak" that is what he is saying. He says the ONLY way he will add certs is if a NEW item is added to the game. So, no certs for existing content and therefore no certs for harvs.



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SaleusCorwen
Wed May 26, 2004 3:46 pm
#5



essentially what i took away from TH's response was.



The only thing that would be added to the artisan field, if anything, will be items to craft..






The way this would happen is if during the course of development, a new object was made and we needed to place the cert, we’d look at the opportunity and put it in







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Giamai
Wed May 26, 2004 3:58 pm
#6

There are no current plans to further enhance Master Artisans at this point.


thats TH's first sentence..so i take that to mean that nothing will be added anytime soon.

there is no mention of harvester certifications, to interpret TH's words to mean that will never happen assumes that TH sees harvester certifications as a means to enhance master artisan.


it is interesting that TH refers to vehicles as the big add-on for MA which i agree with and vehicle customization kits which are more useless than a neimodian birdcage. the birdcages at least look cool.



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Stargzrrag
Wed May 26, 2004 4:02 pm
#7






Giamai wrote:


it is interesting that TH refers to vehicles as the big add-on for MA which i agree with and vehicle customization kits which are more useless than a neimodian birdcage. the birdcages at least look cool.






I sells tons of vehicle customization kits.


To dismiss them is moronic. No wonder people like you complain they can't make money as an artisan.



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Giamai
Wed May 26, 2004 4:08 pm
#8

1. no one buys them on ahazi, they don't last long enough to be worth the effort


2. i never claimed not to be making money, review my posts for confirmation


3. DO NOT use personal insults if you have a difference of opinion, I did not call you names, and i would expect the same respect in return.





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OckVofad
Wed May 26, 2004 4:29 pm
#9

That is true I am coming from the angle the having harv certs enhances MA. My assumption is that TH sees any addition to a profession whether it is a craftable item, new skill, or new certification as an enhancement as well.



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Stargzrrag
Wed May 26, 2004 4:46 pm
#10






Giamai wrote:

1. no one buys them on ahazi, they don't last long enough to be worth the effort


Then they must be useless, Ahazi doesn't use them.
Sorry if your customers don't buy them.
Almost everyone I've seen overprices these items. They require 81 resources and only last for a short amount of time, in order to sell them you need to keep the price relatively low. I sell them starting at about 10cpu, and they fly off my vendors.


2. i never claimed not to be making money, review my posts for confirmation


No you did not... for this I apologize. It wasa generalization that you did not neccesarily deserve.


3. DO NOT use personal insults if you have a difference of opinion, I did not call you names, and i would expect the same respect in return.


It is foolish to dismiss an item because you can't sell them. I did not call you a moron (or foolish just now), I said it was moronic to dismiss the vehicle custom tool.




Don't get me wrong, there are plenty of items that need some help. As you mentioned the bird cage. How about the dice? Then there is a HUGE list of useless items if you want to involve the advanced proffessions.



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Cafa
Wed May 26, 2004 5:50 pm
#11






OckVofad wrote:

That is true I am coming from the angle the having harv certs enhances MA. My assumption is that TH sees any addition to a profession whether it is a craftable item, new skill, or new certification as an enhancement as well.






And again if you read the intent, Master Artisan is a novice profession. End of story. Miners branched FROM it in planning, why would they give MA more power and usefulness than an elite branch. (rhetorical - not asking a question)



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joined42904
Thu May 27, 2004 8:44 am
#12

Well....


I am unimpressed with your argument that TH has even addressed harvester certs. Keep in mind that some of the proposals give you heavy harvs at survey 4. If that were the case, the enhancement would be to the survey line entirely and to master artisan not at all.


TH didn't address harv certs. So to say that he "shoots down harv certs" is really no more than wishful thinking from the CON side to an argument.


Let's just say that if Greenspan said something as related to interest rates as TH said about "master" artisans...I wouldn't know if he were for or against raising interest rates.


I don't usually play the one-star game, but considering that you can't back up what you claim a dev to have said, I think I will try to one star this one.





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PadiOne
Thu May 27, 2004 11:24 am
#13

Looks like you interpret dev statements the way Al Sharpton interprets the constitution.



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