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Greetings to all my fellow armorsmiths (whether they like that or not ):

• Okram is a fine tester, and was an awesome corrospondant, but he did break the rules and violated the trust between the devs and the Player Corrospondant. Therefore, I feel the punishment fit the crime, so to speak, with regards to his removal and his blue glowie status. That still in no way takes anything away from him as a tester or as a leader in the AS forum - he made a mistake, and regardless of whether people feel it was justified or not, rules are rules - you break them, it would be foolish not to expect consequences, and downright silly to get mad at someone else enforcing the rules you broke.

• I still feel the CURB overall will be a good thing. However, we as crafters might need to work on our patience, as the devs said from the very beginning, crafters do NOT fit into the scope of the CURB. It sucks, yeah it sucks hard, but for right now, we have to take a back seat. However, I remember a comment from a dev back at the beginning (I forget who), that while crafters will get a back seat overall with regards to the CURB, that once the CURB is out, the dev attention will go back to the crafters in order to work on their professions - sort of a Crafting Upgrade and Rebalance. I still think our turn is coming; we just aren't first on the list.

• Grouping Level Protection - based on what I have seen, there are mixed reports on this. Some feel it is the end of armor, because people get protection based on group level. Still others who have tested have said that even with that, armor STILL makes a difference, and is almost crucial in tackling tougher MOBs. I have not tested yet with this, but from people I know and trust, I feel I can say the LATTER is more the truth. The people I talk to tell me that when grouped, armor seems to be the difference-maker in whether you can tackle a MOB that is a level above you or not. Yes, without armor and in a group, you can tackle MOBs at group level just fine - but to tackle a level or so above takes armor, or at least some superior tactics. I feel this should be a wait and see issue - some people are making assumptions on initial reactions, and not doing due diligence with the testing, although that is only a guess on my part based on the reports I have personally heard.

• 2 Line Experimentation - I still dislike it, like the rest of you, and I still feel the Resists should be given separate groups, maybe to the point of a line for each resist. I will post my explicit ideas in a separate post.

• Factory Runs - Reduce Item Complexity, and make factories usable again. Simple.

• Resources - Trim it down a little more, but leave it higher than it used to be. I think people have gotten lazy making composite only, so this would be a good way for people to get a taste of the full scope of the AS profession as it was meant to be, IMHO. Also, this will help rangers out, and this game is big on interdependence, which IMHO, is what makes the game the most fun (people who were in game back when it launched will know what I am talking about)

• Bio-Linking - It prevents faction armor exploits. Keep it, but lower the FP cost for players to equip it.

• Corrospondant Position - While I still like the idea of some of the less constructive members of the forums quitting because I get this position, I have to admit, I am not what this community needs right now in a corrospondant, and I mean that on a professional level, not a personal one. I am too opinionated right now on the CURB, and I run contrary to most of you, and as such, I think I would not serve this community well. That doesn't mean the next corro should be a yes-man to the community, nor to the devs for that matter. But it should be someone more welcoming, and someone who can mediate, and bridge the divide between players and devs. I would be more of a "do things, and then see how you like them" guy in this community, and that would not be a good thing overall. I realize this, which is why I am not going to pursue the Corrospondant postion any further. That does not mean I will step down if it is offered to me, however. But in that case, as is as much as is within my official capacity if I do get that position, my first action would be to make okram my official tester, and my liason with the player community, to help me test things (he has a wealth of knowledge the new corrospondant would be STUPID not to tap into), and to help me understand the community, as he has a knack of communicating peacefully, without judgement, and that is something I feel as a corrospondant I could learn from him. Of course, all this hinges on me actually getting the position, which I highly doubt I will get, so do not panic. Just know that, should it come to this, I would install safeguards to make sure I represent you well, and if that means appealing to some players who have views different than my own to keep me accountable to the community, then so be it.

• Trolls - Odd topic, but one I feel needs to be addressed, simply because I want to paint a clear picture for some people. I got my own hate club following me (no surprise, especially after the crap that went on here over the weekend). There are some that I am always happy to point out that their hatred goes beyond what is on these forums. One in particular I care about, simply because people are under the mistaken impression that it is me - D'an. What I can tell you first, is check the join dates - I joined when the game came out. D'an joined more than a full year later. I am sure most of you with alts purchased them pretty quickly. D'an actually is a guy who follows me around from time to time on the forums, being disruptive, and sometimes acting like my biggest fan, and other times, screwing with my posts in a very weird way - kind of like anti-trolling trolling. The only reasoning I can come up with, can be readily explainable by doing a search on his name, and reading the first post he made. Few people have played Street Fighter Alpha 2, but I am a fan of the game, and his name is based on a goofy Character in that game. I recognized it immediately, complemented him on the name, and ever since, this guy has been popping here and there, bugging me, disappearing for a time, only to show up and bug me again. A very benign bugging, but a pestering nonetheless. I hope that clears this up, as when he has shown up, he has done more damage pretending to be my friend than any troll flaming me ever has. If you believe me, great. If not, then there is nothing I can tell you, other than to check the posts and registered date on D'an, and ask yourself why I would ruin my reputation like that, and why I would wait over a year and a half to get an alt. And I feel that is that on the matter. The other trolls are really not even worth mentioning.

Anyway, that is me, and that is where I stand on things. I want everyone to know, I apologize in the fullest for flaming away, and causing all sorts of havoc from getting on my soapbox while you all still needed to vent.

So, to the Armorsmithing Community as a whole, keep up the constructive posts, and know that I am truly, and deeply, sorry.

Message Edited by ZionHalcyon on 04-18-2005 10:07 AM

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TheCapn2000 wrote:

How many times are you going to need to apologize for something that you written in this forum?

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rahbert wrote:
Just a thought on reading your post.

From a quick scan... no flameage type threads on the first 2 pages. You couldn't let your apology remain a true apology. Instead you had to append your stance and opinions to it. Thus, I anticipate the flame pot will be stirred.

Basically, you're saying... I'm sorry for my previous posts, but just to reiterate... here's where I stand on some sensitive issues. Forget about being constructive about CURB testing, lets get a flameage debate going again!

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Well, that is why the post is titled and apology...of sorts. Part of it was just to clarify some things, and part was an apology. I guess what I am saying is, there really isn't a reason to flame at all either way. I believe what I believe, and you and other people might believe different. Just at least note that I am specifically stating that those are my beliefs - I am not saying there "this is how it is, like it or not."

Yes, I addressed some sensitive issues, and what I want to see from the CURB. As a member of the community, don't I have a right to do that as much as anyone else, regardless of whether I agree with the community as a whole or not?

Please. Just please. I am asking you to just read what I have in the spirit it is intended, and NOT to turn it into a flame war. We can disagree, but do it civilly. I am just saying my behavior was bad, I apologize for it, but at the same time, an apology does not mean I concede my beliefs. I believe what I believe. And yet, at the same time, I apologize for my behaviour in pressing those beliefs on others, rather than civilly discussing it with them.

Message Edited by foobar0 on 04-18-2005 11:03 AM

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rahbert wrote:
I'm just saying that your sincere apology is watered down by posting your opinions with it. When people see opinions, their natural reaction is to agree or disagree. Then your apology becomes another debate, which leads to possible flaming.

Anyway....

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True, I guess. The difference here though is, I have said what I feel I need to here. As such, when people start, should they start, from this point out I am going to stay completely out of the post to not further fan the flames or instigate anything. Everything I needed to get off my chest, I have done so.

I think I will edit the title too, just so people know what to expect, clicking on it.

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