Armorsmith Archive
Thread: Request for 80% Energy 80% Kinetic (Special Protection) Possible?
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OSDWarder
Sat Jun 12, 2004 9:21 pm
#1
Is it possibe to get 80% kinetic and 80% Energy both special protection for comp.
If so how.,,,without using special base segs to get the base to 80%
theonebountyhunter
Sat Jun 12, 2004 9:29 pm
#2
making a whole lot of gloves will get you 80/80 hehe
all kidding aside it took me alot of time to get my suits to 80/80
ended up with 80%kin 80%energy 79% elec 67% base
think my layers were 4% base 7-8% energy x 2, 2% base 11-12% kin
i was so glad it finally worked i forgot to write the crap down
i kept getting 80%kin 79%ene 80% kin and never could get 80% elec
finally just ran it as 80% energy 80% kin 79% elec 67% base and they sold out in one day
edited b/c i put elec inplace of energy, sorry about the mix up too many hours of grinding merchant, running 6 accounts on 2 machines at the same time
all kidding aside it took me alot of time to get my suits to 80/80
ended up with 80%kin 80%energy 79% elec 67% base
think my layers were 4% base 7-8% energy x 2, 2% base 11-12% kin
i was so glad it finally worked i forgot to write the crap down
i kept getting 80%kin 79%ene 80% kin and never could get 80% elec
finally just ran it as 80% energy 80% kin 79% elec 67% base and they sold out in one day
edited b/c i put elec inplace of energy, sorry about the mix up too many hours of grinding merchant, running 6 accounts on 2 machines at the same time
Message Edited by theonebountyhunter on 06-13-2004 02:30 AM
destrkta
Sat Jun 12, 2004 9:32 pm
#3
wouldnt' recommend making electricity layers,
go with a 13/2 or even better 13/3 if you have the points energy layer and a 2 * 6/4 kinetic layers, the extra %points in the kinetic layers usually gets em to a total of 13%, max out base on the segments, then ham, same applies to the final piece.
Boooozark
Sat Jun 12, 2004 11:11 pm
#4
this is very doable, in fact I've been working on getting 80 kin 80 elec 80 energy 80 acid unsliced...just a matter of how you assemble the layers.
destrkta
Sat Jun 12, 2004 11:37 pm
#5
booozark to do that you would need 13/3 layers of 3 different types, unless your a 12pt armour smith that ain't going to happen even then it's going to be tough, and then you'll have to sacrafice ham, and do special protection experimentation for the segment and the final combine to get the electricity rating to 80%.
Ainwyn
Sun Jun 13, 2004 2:30 am
#6
I've hit the 80/80 kinetic/energy... so now... new challenge 80/80/80 with acid as the other one.. hmmmmm... A good (not godly) Skevon showed up recently, so I might just be able to tweak it.
I know it's unbalancing in the big picture, but the armorsmithing challeges are fun in an obsessive compulsive way *snicker*
Oh... and I am an 11pt smith.
I know it's unbalancing in the big picture, but the armorsmithing challeges are fun in an obsessive compulsive way *snicker*
Oh... and I am an 11pt smith.
KinesthePowers
Sun Jun 13, 2004 2:33 am
#7
stupid double post
Message Edited by KinesthePowers on 06-13-2004 03:56 AM
KinesthePowers
Sun Jun 13, 2004 2:55 am
#8
People tell me not to share this but I see so many struggle with it.
Heres how I get 3 special Comp, I am a 12 point smith but I know 10 point smiths that get these results
80% Kinetic 80% Energy 80% Electric 70% Base
ok 1st off I get 2 Kinetic layers I experiment them thusly,
1 point to special so then I have 5% special to Kinetic I then put all the points to Quality, I max this line out I keep experimenting the layer till I get an amazing on this so I get an extra 7% I dont experiment 1 box at a time I do 7 at a time on this line and I Usually end up with extra point for durability but a 10 point will be able to max this line. Now before you say anything yes quality of materials does matter, for example before experimentation my lines start out at 23% 28% 28% When done experimenting I have 30% 91% 35% which give me a layer of 4% base 5% Kinetic and around 305 condition and 13/13/13 HAM. (Im going off these numbers from memory)
Ok then so I make 2 schems just like this for the Kinetic
Next I do an evergy Layer I make it this way
On special I experiment 5 points, but I only get 9% so I experiment on it till I get amazing and then I get 10%, remember I do 5 points at 1 time. Now this gives me 7 points remaining so some folks will have a hrd time here, but if you spend the rest of the points on base and try for that amazing you will get it to 4%.
So no this layer is 10% Energy 4% base with 15/15/15 HAM
Ok So now we have 3 layers all to gether 2 Kin and 1 En, now when we make the seg it will most likely start out at 20% base maybe 19% and then 8% Elec 10% Kin 10% En, all depends on the materials. So now I max my base to 34% I have hit 70% base with a 33% segment but it was probably around 33.8% in actuality. I always hit 70% with a 34% segment. Ok next I put one point to special to bring elec up to 10%. Heres where most new smiths get confused, they think they need to max there special out to get it maxed out, yes to a point thats true but only depending on your materials. If you spend a bit more time getting the best materials n your server your results will be better than you expected, with the best materials the only thing that will separate you from 12pt smiths is HAM. Ok back to this so now we have a 34% 10% 10% 10% segment. If you have any points left over toss them on the durability, I always try for an amazing when maxing out the base sometimes you will be maxed but it looks like you have 1 more point to put in, most of the time its only gonna give you .1% so its a waste. When you make alot of these you will know your cut off points. The reason for the 10% is because your special on the segment will always be 10% higher than your base when you make your armor. So with 34% base segment you get 70% so you get 80% specials. I make the Elec on the seg 10% so I dont have to waste a point on it for final assembly.
So for final assembly I experiment on quality 7 points at one time and then more but make sure you have atleast one left over for durability so when you exp on that your special will catch up to where it needs to be. Im sure Comp wasn't meant to be crafted this way but thats how it is, Ive also found that padded oeas the same, I currently get 80% Kinetic with 51% base for padded.
I Introduced this type of armor to my server a while back called it corvette assault armor so thats where the term has been coming from. I t has now become the grind armor of choice.
Some of you are thinking how can I waste materials like that hoping for amazings. Well I actually dont waste that much, I experiment ina city with research facility as a city function and I use bespin port, yes it does work I see noticable results, especially when I get 5 amazings on one segment in a row. I always use Pyolian cake when assembling, I have never had a cristical failure on assembly when I use this. Same for bespin port I ahve never gotten less that great when using it.
Now I read over you r post again you talk about getting 80% base as well. With current materials on our server Ahazi the highest you can get base with out enhancers is 72% Might be possible to get 73% but I have as of yet not achieved this. With good enhancers yeah you will get 80% base.
I had recently posted my 4 special armor with 80% to 4 specials and 70% base, but that is an entirely different beast.
http://www.imagedump.com/index.cgi?pick=get&tp=75686
I am willing to share my ideas on it, but for another time maybe.
I hope this helps alot of you out. Maybe now some of oyu will focus on getting the best materials 1st, then worrying about those 2 extra points.
If I have made an error here please point it out so I can fix it and clarify.
destrkta
Sun Jun 13, 2004 3:20 am
#9
as i posted earlier thats easy to achieve 80k& 80ene and if you want to sacrafice ham get the electricity as well, but really the best armour is 38% stun, 67% base which you can then get almost all resists apart from stun/electricity close to 90%.
KinesthePowers
Sun Jun 13, 2004 3:42 am
#11
My clickies never seem to work so I just post the urls 
Thanks 
XaverriJade7
Sun Jun 13, 2004 3:48 am
#12
KinesthePowers wrote:
My clickies never seem to work so I just post the urls
Thanks
Yeah, they're kinda tricky sometimes. You're welcome
Hermi_Odle
Sun Jun 13, 2004 5:21 am
#13
I am tackling the 4 time 80 quest (acid elec kin energy). I am close since I can do it with Janta 3% hides. I have 12 points and my layers are more either base 2 15% acid and energy and base 3 14% kinetic. I experiment elec in the segment to 16% with 3 points. (segment is 32 base). I am trying to make base 3 14% in acid and energy to finish this quest.
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