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Thread: Do you stock cheater sets? (Helm/Chest/Gloves/Boots)

Garnax
Fri Sep 24, 2004 11:45 pm
#1

I've been getting more and more requests for "cheater" sets, but I'm not sure I want to sell them. How long has this reverse armor hole existed, and when do you think it will be fixed? I wouldn't want to end up with a lot of excess sets, but I suppose I could just make the extra parts for that if I needed to. What remains is the moral question....




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Keuller
Fri Sep 24, 2004 11:49 pm
#2

I stock em. Full sets are a waste of my resources and my customers' money. I call them "Mini-Suits" though. It sounds better when the CSR's talk to you.



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Garzukeen
Sat Sep 25, 2004 2:44 am
#3

I too stock mini-suits, and charge 135k / suit (100k to guildies!)

The way I see it, the dev's can't be too bothered about it, or they would've changed it by now.

Message Edited by Garzukeen on 09-25-2004 10:45 AM



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blackspanish
Sat Sep 25, 2004 4:31 am
#4

I was doing this (wearing the cheater set) but noticed damage was getting through. especially on NPCs has anyone confirmed that this still works on the production servers
Tirgwystraff
Sat Sep 25, 2004 8:56 am
#5

It works in PvE still, as my ranger still wears a cheater set. All my other chars are styling in maberi or padded, so they wear full sets. Just stock it as parts, you don't have to put it in bags. That way, people get just what they want, and you can run more of the parts that sell best.



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Garnax
Sat Sep 25, 2004 12:01 pm
#6

How much do you charge relative to a normal suit? Half? The same?



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SpeCiaL_Ed_
Sat Sep 25, 2004 6:05 pm
#7

I wouldn't make these as PvP suits. I have noticed this lack of armor on some folks and I also notice the hits that are going through are action hits.



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SamuraiScout
Sat Sep 25, 2004 6:48 pm
#8

what are these "Cheater" sets?




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WolfGuy
Sat Sep 25, 2004 7:18 pm
#9

I love dueling people wearing these sets when I hit a StoppingShot to a piece of armour they aren't wearing Or a FlameSingle2 for that matter.




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owako
Sat Sep 25, 2004 7:59 pm
#10



SamuraiScout wrote:
what are these "Cheater" sets?





Longish explanation follow:

A long time ago there was the armor hole, and it was bad. Damage would passeth right through full suits of armor, and give damage unto the wearer. Then the DEVs claimed they had fixed the armor hole, and ther was much rejoicing. But then the armor hole reappeared, and there was much dispair. Then the DEVs claimed they had again fixed the armor hole, and again there was much rejoicing. Then a third time the armor hole emerged, and again there was much dispair. So the DEVs said, @#(*&@ this, hacked the code, claiming the armor hole was fixed finally and would never reemerge, and there was a third rejoicing.


Basicly the first two "fixes" of the armor hole were finding and closing various slots such as the backpack slot or the eyeglasses slot where if shots hit those areas armor protection would be voided. The third time the DEVs said screw it, and hacked the hit zone and damage distribution system so that if the person was wearing a "full suit" of armor, the system would shunt damage to the nearest peice of armor so the shots would be blocked. This wasen't really a fix, more of a hack. The "cheater suits" arose when people discovered that "full suit" for composite armor ment chest, helm, boots and gloves. As such, people stopped wearing leggings and arm peices. This works in PVE with the exception of high level mobs like nightsisters, but it dosen't work so well in PVP.

So yeah, cheater suit (interesting name) are comp chest, helm, boots and gloves. They provide almost complete protection without the extra encumbrence.



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Hanzzz
Mon Oct 25, 2004 10:25 am
#11

what happends to trandoshians?

can i wear just Bracers or just biceps'?
justapilgrim
Mon Oct 25, 2004 11:01 am
#12

my trando customers go with biceps



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DoWei
Mon Oct 25, 2004 11:04 am
#13

Hey X -

I have 185 of these suits on my vendors, I have sold 1.



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