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Thread: Another Armor Related Stealth Nerf?!

RumblingSky
Tue Apr 06, 2004 7:01 pm
#1

Well.. looks like enhancements no longer affect Health. I thought I would bring this up (haven't noticed any posts yet), seeing as how SOE didn't bother telling us.


Specifically, all of the nightsister shards I've spend more than a million credits on used to affect Health, Action and Mind. Now they only affect Action and Mind. I think it is a total enhancement nerf since none of my Voritor Scales add to Health anymore. Just Action and Mind.


I'm not real sure what the point of springing something like this on us is. Personally, I can deal with this change. It just would have been nice if we had a little warning so I wouldn't have bought the last two batches of them. Or perhaps just a note when it happened so I didn't have to spend two hours tonight checking all of my enhancements to see if it was just those or what.


Thanks for the heads-up. heh..


(IF I missed a notice, someone please let me know. I would hate to think I would overlook something like that when I've invested so much money in them.. but would like to know if I did.)
Jedi_Odin
Tue Apr 06, 2004 7:32 pm
#2

if there was some sort of notice then i missed it too, cuz im having the same exact problem



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Drummerboychris
Tue Apr 06, 2004 8:01 pm
#3

actually, it's old news. been in since those segments and layers lost health being displayed. that patch also broke the health on loot, but they haven't bothered to fix the loot, because, in my opinion, not many people will notice. the best you can do is to wait around for them to fix it. easiest way is to get this made an issue somehow... if the correspondant would put it, that'd be nice, as it's probably a 1 day fix. otherwise, i'm afraid it'll take a few months to get noticed.



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RumblingSky
Tue Apr 06, 2004 8:37 pm
#4

Well granted, I took a week or so off of crafting, but mine were showing healthabout a week ago. I know it was after publish 7. And this post was an effort to take issue. But.. do we even have a coordinator? LOL I haven't noticed. No offense to the coordinator if we do have one.

Message Edited by RumblingSky on 04-06-2004 11:38 PM

JaatoWaals
Tue Apr 06, 2004 9:36 pm
#5

Nightsister shards never reduced health. They only reduced mind and action. For a short period (following Publish 5 until Publish 7 or shortly thereafter) the delveindicated that they reduced Health, Action and Mind. This was not the case in practice, however- upon using them to craft a segment they only reduced Action and Mind. As a result, I requested the Devs to either fix the delve to correctly reflect the stats that were being reduced or to remove the Health line from the delve, depending on which one was intended. Apparently it was the latter, as Health was removed from the delve on nightsister layers.


In other words, this was not a nerf. The Health reduction on the shards was being displayed even though no reduction was actually occuring when the item was crafted. All that happened was the delve information was corrected to match the actual stats of the item.





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RumblingSky
Wed Apr 07, 2004 6:05 am
#6






JaatoWaals wrote:

Nightsister shards never reduced health. They only reduced mind and action. For a short period (following Publish 5 until Publish 7 or shortly thereafter) the delveindicated that they reduced Health, Action and Mind. This was not the case in practice, however- upon using them to craft a segment they only reduced Action and Mind. As a result, I requested the Devs to either fix the delve to correctly reflect the stats that were being reduced or to remove the Health line from the delve, depending on which one was intended. Apparently it was the latter, as Health was removed from the delve on nightsister layers.


In other words, this was not a nerf. The Health reduction on the shards was being displayed even though no reduction was actually occuring when the item was crafted. All that happened was the delve information was corrected to match the actual stats of the item.








And so what happened with my other enhancements then. The ones that had a health listing, such as voritor segments?
JaatoWaals
Wed Apr 07, 2004 7:17 am
#7

I'll look into that tonight. I think one of my guildmates has a few of those lying around. It's possible that when they put the fix in for the Nightsister shards, they inadvertantly hid the Health stats on other items. Do the voritor scales still add health encumbrance when used? I've also got a few other types of looted components lying around in storage houses.


To be honest, I stopped crafting with looted components a while ago. They just take up way too much space, storage wise, and are very labor-intensive to craft with, far more so than doing factory runs of craftable armor. I'm still trying to convince the devs to allow them to stack, so at least one of those problems will be eliminated.


Another question- I've heard rumors of unserialed krayt scales and segments dropping. Has anyone else heard of these things dropping?





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Zutan
Wed Apr 07, 2004 7:24 am
#8

I got 5 NS Shards less than a week ago and they have -10 to all 3 stats.
JaatoWaals
Wed Apr 07, 2004 7:32 am
#9

Hmm, ok, this definitely bears more investigation. I'm getting lots of conflicting reports here.


1. Night sister shards bearing all three stats


2. Night sister shards bearing only action and mind


3. Voritor segments with no health encumbrance shown


4. other types of segments/enhancements with no health encumbrance shown?


SInce the last patch, all I've seen are nightsister shards with only action and mind reductions. A guildmate has around a hundred and fifty of these things in her storage houses. I'll go through tonight and do a careful survey. Does anyone know if any of the invisible/non-existant health values are coming through?




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RumblingSky
Wed Apr 07, 2004 9:09 am
#10

I actually don't know what the results are since I haven't crafted with any of them since in the hopes something would be cleared up. All I really know is I have about 50 - 60 nightsister shards that used to show all three stats. The last time I noticed them were about 2 weeks ago at the most and they still had all three stats. I checked last night since I was going to use them and they did not. I also noted at that time that neither Voritor Segments nor Scales bore any health adjustment. I have not checked any others as I would have to go to the bazaar, but I will check when I have a moment and report my findings here. I have heard nothing about non-serialed Krayt loot.
RumblingSky
Wed Apr 07, 2004 9:31 am
#11

Yes. I just checked some Sharnaff Plating no less than 3 minutes ago. The only HAM adjustments they show are Action and Mind.


I am on Bloodfin if you think that might make a difference.
kandee
Wed Apr 07, 2004 9:34 am
#12

Jaato Ihave a ton of Shards and segments, I can take a look tonight and send you agame email with the stats if that will help.






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JaatoWaals
Wed Apr 07, 2004 9:55 am
#13

Aye, that would help. I'll check my supply tonight as well and try to get a problem summary off to the Devs as soon as possible.



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