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I was reading that the new faction armors will be 'bio linked' Call it what it is- Attuned, and will cost the same amount of faction points as it does now.

Who thought this up? Do you realize.. it's the FP cost and not the stats that causes no one to wear it? Who is going to wear a 2 mil suit of armor into battle, so it can decay? NO ONE.

Attuning (I REFUSE to all it Bio-linking.) is another stupid idea. Let's put it this way- in EQ2 stuff don't decay. hence the Attuning to keep crafters in business. in galaxies stuff decays. Constantly, and incessantly. Us casual gamers can't keep up, can't keep our crap even working, let alone maintaining a 2 million credit suit of armor, and replacing it. It works in EQ2.. in galaxies it's totally uncalled for, and frankly gamebreaking.

I'd suggest an alternative to the system. take FP OUT of the equation. I'm sorry, but FP are too valuable to be dumping into armor that rots nonstop, and gets replaced weekly at least. Best way to do this, is the RIS idea. Can ALSO tie this into the new space mining. The idea is this-

A new Imp and Rebel parks, where you go and complete missions to become 'Imperial certified' and 'Rebel certified'. Once certed, you can craft the faction armor, but it takes a rare mineral found only by mining ships. Hence giving another use for your fancy new mining ships, AND some new quest content for Armorsmiths. Perhaps even a hefty ONE TIME fp payment, rather than an XP payment, to complete the quest.

Sure this means just about every imperial willo be a stormtrooper, or scout... But umm.. Isn't this STAR WARS? Why aren't the Imperials dressed as Imperials? Simple- they can't. And these CU changes won't fix that one bit. Faction armor shouldn't be the exception- it should be the rule.

If you want some higher faction armors- Why not add in Novatrooper armor schematics, Commando troopers, Swap Troopers, that would be 1 time schematics. But the basic Imperial and Rebel armors, should be the defaul armors on the battlefield, not the rare trophy that only gets worn to player events and to show it off.

No I don't have a freakin sig. Just make something up and pretend it's here man. woman. umm...Whatever.

I don't think devs are looking for different ideas right now, just input on the current changes

there will be plenty of the new faction armors around, if you are a casual gamer, use your 2 million dollar suit of armor for RP, not for grinding/pvp

If this hits as is, it's going to kill the game for the casual gamer considering we've been primised the CU would 'bring a star wars feel to every player' and all that load of.. You get the idea. It's quite obvious that's crap. They want to make Everquest Galaxies.

I won't have a 2 mil suit if this hits live. I'm not going to waste my time grinding for a suit so I can be a stormtrooper, but only when I don't fight anything. That's retarded. I suggest you people read the notes- The armor will cost just as many FP to buy as current armor- PLUS will have the price tags of the Armorsmiths to deal with. A suit will likely cost well over 2 million on some servers, that's rediculous.

This is Star Wars. Even if it's crappy newbie armor, Imperials should look like Imperials, and Rebels should look like rebels. Anything less, and the CU is a failure.

No I don't have a freakin sig. Just make something up and pretend it's here man. woman. umm...Whatever.

Sorry, but I cant seem to find where you are getting your info regarding faction armor costs. Would you mind posting the link please?

here's the link (I don't know how to make a clicky)

http://forums.station.sony.com/swg/board/message?board.id=armorsmith&message.id=78196#M78196

This is straight from the Devs. not a rumor, but a direct post. Not even a quote- It's from the horses mouth, so to speak.

Add to the insult- This dev posts (If you don't want to participate in the CGW you don't have to).

I thought the whole point of this upgrade was to get people to want to participate?

No I don't have a freakin sig. Just make something up and pretend it's here man. woman. umm...Whatever.

Its pretty early days to come up with this. We have not made a single piece of factioned armor and its already to expensive? Heck we have not even made non factioned armor yet! looking at the Beta its still pretty raw lots of things are going to change before this goes live. Did it occur to you that maybe Bio Attuned armor wont decay?

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Ego Ietava, Corbantis Master Armorsmith, R.I.S. Certified
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Lets put it this way- they said schematics won't cost 'A lot' but we've all seen SOE's ideas of what makes up alot- they are continually balancing the game for people who play 4-8 hours a day.

And then paying the FP cost- as for Attuned armor not decaying... Fat chance. If a dev speaks up and says that's how it is, then I'll admit I overreacted. But until then, I don't think I am at all. First thing I intend to do in test is try making the faction armors, just to see how bad a FP hit it is. But keep in mind, sure you might see a ton of Colonels about, which I even have, you're forgetting that alot of players have real lives to deal with too, kids, jobs, etc and some of those Colonels are only Colonels because they were smugglers at some point, or they been in game since launch, or because until now hasn't really been anything worth dumping FP into aside from your rank. It was bad enough when armor cost 300K for a really good suit, now will cost in fp as well as cash. Not to mention the good point, that dedicated crafters going to have a hard time getting the FP to make the armor to begin with. I know my AS won't be too bad, since I'm going to likely do Smuggler/AS as a template, with fieldwear 2 and a few pistol specials if I can. But what about the master tailor/master armorsmiths? Or up and coming armorsmiths, is Faction armor a master only game, despite claims to be making it easier for anyone to compete due to certs and such?

No I don't have a freakin sig. Just make something up and pretend it's here man. woman. umm...Whatever.

dude, chill out

if you want to be a L33t kiddie in stormtrooper armor then......

level up in your pilot skills (yes they just had an expansion), go to deep space. You can get 30k faction in the time it takes you to do a buff set. Or just go combatant and farm bases like everyone else.

Even as a casual gamer you should be able to get enough FP for one peice in a buff set no probems, and have enough saved up to get afull suitin a week.

there are too many people that want it all. Well I want a 1200+ T21, and I don't have one. The CURB will make it more star warsy, even if you don't get your ST armor

Pyke Winoda
Retired Master Armorsmith w Reformed Smuggler w Former Mayor
Twelve-Point Smith w RIS Certified
DREADNOUGHT Armor w Saldara, Dantooine 6690 -4626

How? TC5 sound effects sound like birds chirping. The laser bolts look silly. The hotbar icons looks like the same ones in EQ2. Players will still have names like BuTTeReD NaSty. Rebel faction armor wasn't seen in the movies.

Renea,