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Thread: What is the best PVP recon armour?

Tango88
Mon Sep 12, 2005 9:08 am
#1

Hi all,could you guys recommend me what stats should i requestthe AS to make me the best possible recon armour for PVP? Thks in advance
Thula
Mon Sep 12, 2005 9:30 am
#2


You want an energy layered Recon armor. All Recon armors would have the same stats (with the exception of condition), but the exact stats will vary from server to server, but you should expect 8000-8100 energy on most servers. Please take it to your trade forums.



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Tango88
Mon Sep 12, 2005 10:02 am
#3


Will 8k energy resist armour = abt 4k kinetic resists?
LeviticusD
Mon Sep 12, 2005 10:37 am
#4






Tango88 wrote:


Will 8k energy resist armour = abt 4k kinetic resists?





Yes, it will be down around 4k with the 8k energy resist.




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Rikilii
Mon Sep 12, 2005 11:03 am
#5

Just curious, I'm new to the CU, but why would you want to max out energy at the expense of kinetic?


Is that because of Jedi?


What if you weren't ever fighting Jedi....wouldn't you want more balance, or to even move toward kinetic (because you can add a PSG)?





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The-Fluid-One
Mon Sep 12, 2005 11:09 am
#6






Rikilii wrote:

Just curious, I'm new to the CU, but why would you want to max out energy at the expense of kinetic?


Is that because of Jedi?


What if you weren't ever fighting Jedi....wouldn't you want more balance, or to even move toward kinetic (because you can add a PSG)?





I concur Rikilii- there is no "best" anything. Plenty of rangedand melee weapons are Kinetic base, and as such I can't agree that maxing aRecon suit with Energy is the best solution. If he's hunting Jedi, then sure, it's the right fit. If he's doing general PVP, then his opponents using Kinetic damage are going to have a field day with him.


Perhaps Primus layers or even Kinetic layers, if you don't have a Battle cert, are more appropriate for your needs. Depends on what you want to do, and what you are "certed" for.





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Rikilii
Mon Sep 12, 2005 11:12 am
#7






The-Fluid-One wrote:






Rikilii wrote:

Just curious, I'm new to the CU, but why would you want to max out energy at the expense of kinetic?


Is that because of Jedi?


What if you weren't ever fighting Jedi....wouldn't you want more balance, or to even move toward kinetic (because you can add a PSG)?





I concur Rikilii- there is no "best" anything. Plenty of rangedand melee weapons are Kinetic base, and as such I can't agree that maxing aRecon suit with Energy is the best solution. If he's hunting Jedi, then sure, it's the right fit. If he's doing general PVP, then his opponents using Kinetic damage are going to have a field day with him.


Perhaps Primus layers or even Kinetic layers, if you don't have a Battle cert, are more appropriate for your needs. Depends on what you want to do, and what you are "certed" for.







Thanks for the info. I'm trying to get up to speed very quickly on making Faction armor for our project on TC, and I wasn't even planning to bother with layering. But perhaps I should consider trying a few types of layers.



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LeviticusD
Mon Sep 12, 2005 11:12 am
#8






Rikilii wrote:

Just curious, I'm new to the CU, but why would you want to max out energy at the expense of kinetic?


Is that because of Jedi?


What if you weren't ever fighting Jedi....wouldn't you want more balance, or to even move toward kinetic (because you can add a PSG)?







Mostly because of Jedi, yes. In truth though, you are right. I more balanced approach is better for more general gameplay as there is still a lot of kinetic in this game and the fact that you can add a PSG, (though it does NOT help against energy melee like a lightsaber). These full energy recon suits are usually just "jedi suits".




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Tango88
Mon Sep 12, 2005 5:08 pm
#9

I'm in favour for a general pvp suit....leaning towards a7k/5k (energy/kinetic) suit.
Thula
Tue Sep 13, 2005 1:30 am
#10

My bad, I was only thinking Jedi since that is what most of the requests I get are for.


I totally agree, for a general PvP experience you want a more balanced suit, and for this I think Primus layers is the better option. For Recon you might expect something in the region of 5550/7550/5450 (again server dependant). Elemental damage takes a small hit, but energy/kinetic protection is still a lot more important.


This actually gives you more "value for money" compared to kinetic or energy layered suits. Due to diminishing returns, you get more additional protection in total from primus layers than you do from the others, example:


Capped basic suit 5000/7000/6000 has a protection of 42.5%/52.5%/48% , in total 143% (don't get too hung up in this figure, it is just to illustrate the point and has no meaning otherwise)


Energy layered suit 4000/8000/6000 has a protection of 36%/56%/48%, in total 140%


Primus layered suit 5550/7550/6000 has a protection of 45,6%/54,5%/45,1%, in total 145,2%


I am a big fan of Primus layers but have gotten tired of trying to educate my buyers, so I just give them what they want





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darthbock
Tue Sep 13, 2005 2:00 am
#11

If you are forced into recon, doing something like 3x primus 1x kinon thesegments is also nice. You nudge up the kin a bit more, but still keep energy high - something like 5750 kin 7150 en 5550 base. It is not much different from full primus, but in my fiddling I have found I prefer it. 2x primus 2x kin comes out around 5900 kin 7000 en 5700 base which is also nice.



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ArnnStardust
Tue Sep 13, 2005 2:18 am
#12


I have just crafted a quad-kinetic ubese for me (to harvest on frontier planets) that have roughly 6000 everywhere,

so +145% cumulated and balanced resists.

With a good PSG (+2400) it's perhaps a alternate solution for PvP or not ?

Message Edited by ArnnStardust on 09-13-2005 11:18 AM




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MonKaiku
Tue Sep 13, 2005 2:35 am
#13

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