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Thread: ENOUGH. Lets get back on track. How can we make the CURB AS better?
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ZionHalcyon
Fri Apr 15, 2005 7:17 am
#1
Look, I know I have rubbed many people the wrong way. I know part of that is my fault (frustration after living though a similar experience with Creature Handler back in the day), and part of it is me dealing with people who haven't cooled down yet.
So I guess what I am asking, is that everyone take a deep breath (including myself), and let it out slowly.
/deepbreath
Ahhhh...
Ok, now on to business.
I know not everyone will agree with this premise - too many people want the old crafting system in the CURB. But lets say that, no matter what, certifications will stay, mitigations will stay, hinderances will stay, hide will not be removed from the crafting process, bio-linking will stay,and no more resists will be added or removed.
Operating under those assumptions, staying completely ON TASK, and given what we currently know about the CURB, how would you improve it?
Keep in mind, things like "putting the old system back" do not apply here, because that would fail to consider the premise.
Please, it's really important to stick to that premise. Given all that, what would you do? Lower resource costs? Shorten factory times? Reduce the FP needed to equip a faction suit and bio-link it? Split the exp line into several lines? and How?
Please, keep the balance of the game in mind at all times, and outright ignore anyone who trolls or flames.
I put this post up, because I think if the community can take a deep breath and come to the table here with ideas and creativity, we can save this profession.
Given my reputation, I know this is asking a lot, and is sort of a leap of faith that people will actually respond like I asked, as opposed to dragging this post down in flames like all the other ones, but I am still passionate about Armorsmith, and I love it as much as the rest of you. I just feel that had we taken this direction in the first place, we wouldn't be in the mess we are in. You might disagree, and that's ok.
All I ask is that people stick to the premise, and remain civil. And you might surprise yourself with the neat things we can come up with, and might be even more surprised when those ideas are fought for, and implemented.
Its a leap of faith, but for both of us. Trust me on this: follow through here, and not only can we leave these dark times behind us - we can begin to see a bright future ahead.
Virtuell
Fri Apr 15, 2005 7:18 am
#2
Do we have any mandate (will thevoices be heard at all)to get a change?
What worries me is that SOE has made up their mind already about this game revamp.
Rancor418
Fri Apr 15, 2005 7:20 am
#3
How can we make the CURB AS better?
How about leaving it alone and not messing with the crafting part??
How about leaving it alone and not messing with the crafting part??
ZionHalcyon
Fri Apr 15, 2005 7:21 am
#4
Virtuell wrote:
Do we have any mandate (will thevoices be heard at all)to get a change?
What worries me is that SOE has made up their mind already about this game revamp.
That is why I laid out the premise. From all that I have read, those things will not change, because they are crucial to the balance, and no amount of complaining will bring them back.
Of course, if people keep pushing for those, they will feel like they are not being heard, because there is nothing that can be done with those.
That is the point of this post - to get away from what we can't do, and focus on what we can. And I believe we will see a better dev response as a result.
Okram2k
Fri Apr 15, 2005 7:25 am
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guess you haven't been paying to much attention zion
Top 6 issues we have with the CU #1 especially, there's even a suggestion with how to fix experimentation.
A close look at just how bad the resource requirements are in the CU
All we need now is a test to see how effective armor is in the CU, so we can see if it's worth the price going up by 5 times, and I'm gonna work on that today.
Top 6 issues we have with the CU #1 especially, there's even a suggestion with how to fix experimentation.
A close look at just how bad the resource requirements are in the CU
All we need now is a test to see how effective armor is in the CU, so we can see if it's worth the price going up by 5 times, and I'm gonna work on that today.
ZionHalcyon
Fri Apr 15, 2005 7:25 am
#7
Rancor418 wrote:
Oh and there is nothing "we" can do about it.
Please, there are enough threads out there for you to complain in.
Please stop trolling this one.
ZionHalcyon
Fri Apr 15, 2005 7:27 am
#8
Okram2k wrote:
guess you haven't been paying to much attention zion
Top 6 issues we have with the CU #1 especially, there's even a suggestion with how to fix experimentation.
A close look at just how bad the resource requirements are in the CU
All we need now is a test to see how effective armor is in the CU, so we can see if it's worth the price going up by 5 times, and I'm gonna work on that today.
No, I have been. And I put my response in your thread where you solicited mail-bombing Blix.
Understand I have great respect for you, up until the last 48 hours, and I still have great respect for you.
But some of those issues would not work with the premises I laid out, which is the point...
I want to work within those guidelines, not push to have the guidelines changed; that is what I beleive led to this situation in the first place.
JangoFett100
Fri Apr 15, 2005 7:28 am
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ZionHalcyon wrote:
Look, I know I have rubbed many people the wrong way. I know part of that is my fault (frustration after living though a similar experience with Creature Handler back in the day), and part of it is me dealing with people who haven't cooled down yet.
You ruined this for yourself before you began by pointing the blame for previous problems on others, and a statement about CH that makes no sense. The creature handlers didn't speak up enough and got nerfed to hell and back. Soeither you were a whiner then, or you told everyone to keep with the program and that failed.
I am telling you this for the good of the AS community. Please keep your comments, suggestions and this feeling that you are our leader to a minumum. We can move forward, and I agree with you that we need to. But you are currently not the one anyone will be looking to follow at the moment. Please don't take that the wrong way, but the ones you have frustrated over the last week aren't going to suddenly come to think of you as our leader.
bostonbaka
Fri Apr 15, 2005 7:28 am
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Zion shut up. You are so full of yourself at this point. I hope you dont become the armorsmith corespondent. Since the old AS corespondent left you have just made suck up posts one after another.
Rancor418
Fri Apr 15, 2005 7:30 am
#11
ZionHalcyon wrote:
Rancor418 wrote:
Oh and there is nothing "we" can do about it.Please, there are enough threads out there for you to complain in.
Please stop trolling this one.
No..
ZionHalcyon
Fri Apr 15, 2005 7:37 am
#12
JangoFett100 wrote:
ZionHalcyon wrote:
Look, I know I have rubbed many people the wrong way. I know part of that is my fault (frustration after living though a similar experience with Creature Handler back in the day), and part of it is me dealing with people who haven't cooled down yet.
You ruined this for yourself before you began by pointing the blame for previous problems on others, and a statement about CH that makes no sense. The creature handlers didn't speak up enough and got nerfed to hell and back. Soeither you were a whiner then, or you told everyone to keep with the program and that failed.
I am telling you this for the good of the AS community. Please keep your comments, suggestions and this feeling that you are our leader to a minumum. We can move forward, and I agree with you that we need to. But you are currently not the one anyone will be looking to follow at the moment. Please don't take that the wrong way, but the ones you have frustrated over the last week aren't going to suddenly come to think of you as our leader.
Reading is a skill. If you read the green, you will see I spread equal blame around, myself included.
Get back on topic please.
Ham-Jo
Fri Apr 15, 2005 7:38 am
#13
What Zion doesnt seem to realize is that he's sucking up to the wrong people.
The community doesnt pick you.....and its a good thing its that way...otherwise your application would have been thrown in the trash immediately.
Zion please keep yourself in check. And dont posts threads to make yourself look as if your in a leadership type posistion. IF you really know what the AS community needs.......then you wouldn't be doing this period.
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Message Edited by Ham-Jo on 04-15-2005 09:40 AM
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