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Thread: Ok whats wrong with this pickture?!!!111

JZeus-Sarono
Mon May 02, 2005 1:06 am
#1

your probably right...


Thing is I fine tuned my resources to hit 84% and this one thing is hiding another 6+% min!!
Tehre 41 now I figure 50 is cap so I should get 45-46 at least. lol ya Im that picky






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_Monroe_
Mon May 02, 2005 1:50 am
#2

Basically that ore sucks!



Vintrium Extrusive Ore: CR 896 - 1000, DR 909 - 1000, HR 922 - 1000, MA 522 - 600, SR 922 - 1000, UT 922 - 1000


928 SR is pretty low. I really hate this gated weighting system. From looking at that ore it should be good stuff!!!!





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_Monroe_
Mon May 02, 2005 1:55 am
#3


Let me add that something needs to change here. You can't have people pulling crap out of ground, buying it from miners or from a vendor thinking that it is a good resource when in this case it is total crap.


There simply HAS to be a way IN-GAME of determining if a resource is good or not. Either make it so weighting is calculate based on what the damn game says it is or put in a way of seeing how good a resource is or isn't within the gates.


Caile needs to push this one up.

Message Edited by _Monroe_ on 05-02-2005 02:56 AM



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Ox-
Mon May 02, 2005 2:02 am
#4

Completely agree.


This absolutely forces us to use out of game tools to determine the real quality of a resource, which gives a serious advantage to players who know about those tools.





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JZeus-Sarono
Mon May 02, 2005 2:11 am
#5

Thats right!!!


God why did I not snap about 922 = 0 /1000=1000 and mines 928... dang it have to hit back up the resource kits again and look through everyone, SWG craft does not have all the ones on the resource kits list






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_Monroe_
Mon May 02, 2005 2:22 am
#6






Ox- wrote:

Completely agree.


This absolutely forces us to use out of game tools to determine the real quality of a resource, which gives a serious advantage to players who know about those tools.






Oh yeah. Can you imagine the poor people just buying this game.



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JZeus-Sarono
Mon May 02, 2005 12:48 pm
#7



The problem Im haveing is the cap for the gem is 1000 oq/1000 SR and mine are 872 oq/928 SR yet the bar is showing just over 50%? This resource should be 90% yet its like 55%.


Anyone else have any ideas whats the dillio?




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Kesslan
Mon May 02, 2005 12:50 pm
#8

Nothing! It's 'working as intended'



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rahbert
Mon May 02, 2005 4:15 pm
#9


Hmmm, yeah I'm seeing the same thing...

Extrusive Ore:
OQ: 992, SR: 926


Steel:
OQ: 934, SR: 692


The bars are not even halfway high.


Yet.....


Aluminum:

OQ: 947, SR: 274

And the bar is past halfway.


What is meant by gated resource? I thought that meant certain stats had a hard cap, i.e. SR would never be greater than 500.


*bonk*

rahbert
Mon May 02, 2005 4:19 pm
#10


OK, I found some different extrusive ore in my stash:

OQ: 589, SR: 987


And the bar is like 3/4 full.....


what the heck..... i mined this stuff for free and paid 20CPU for the above stuff.... EEEEK!


So, is there a problem with the weights for this resource? Should I trust the bar or the stated 50% OQ/50% SR ?


I ask this because befure CU for BE, the chef nutrients state 33%/33%/33% but were really 50%/30%/20%... so you ignored the bars and the stats...


oooof so confusing

Message Edited by rahbert on 05-02-2005 07:21 PM

CharPrime
Mon May 02, 2005 4:25 pm
#11

do you use a 30k resources kit of this



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Mcgreag
Mon May 02, 2005 4:38 pm
#12



rahbert wrote:
OK, I found some different extrusive ore in my stash:
OQ: 589, SR: 987
And the bar is like 3/4 full.....
what the heck..... i mined this stuff for free and paid 20CPU for the above stuff.... EEEEK!
So, is there a problem with the weights for this resource? Should I trust the bar or the stated 50% OQ/50% SR ?
I ask this because befure CU for BE, the chef nutrients state 33%/33%/33% but were really 50%/30%/20%... so you ignored the bars and the stats...
oooof so confusing

Message Edited by rahbert on 05-02-2005 07:21 PM



It's not a problem with the % it has to do with the range.

Let's take an easy example. Kammaris Iron has an SR gate of 910-1000 that mean it never spawns with SR less than 910. Now I want to use this is Advanced Assault Armor Cores. The used stats here are OQ+SR (50%/50%).

I have two different kammaris in my inv to chose from,
Number 1: OQ 900, SR 920
Number 2: OQ 500, SR 990

How do I calculate which is the best? Well before this change the formula was simple (OQ/1000+SR/1000)/2 giving a value between 0 and 1.
But now it's a bit more complicated (OQ/1000 + ((SR - SRmin)/(SRmax-SRmin)))/2 where SRmin is the min gate and SRmax the max gate, so for Kammaris Iron SRmin = 910 and SRmax = 1000

Number 1 get (900/1000 + ((920-910)/(1000-910)))/2 = 0.506
Number 2 get (500/1000 + ((990-910)/(1000-910)))/2 = 0.694

So for this purpose number 2 is the best. BUT if the schematic had called for just metal instead of Kammaris Iron the SR gates would have been 1-1000 so in that case number 1 would have been the best.



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rahbert
Mon May 02, 2005 5:01 pm
#13

Thanks for your explanation Mcgreag.


And Ox- thanks for talking to me in-game.

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