Armorsmith Archive
Thread: Perfect PVP suit complete
Droci wrote:
40% stun 87%base is still better than all but the helmet in PVP
naw...that's wrong...
lemme toss some numbers at you.
first: assume that anyone using a jawa in pvp is gonna target the mind (I shouldn't have to explain why this is a safe assumption), and that your psg is an average imp psg sliced to 50% base and 40% energy
With my 90 base 4% stun armor:
With your 87 base 40% stun armor:
From a pure resist focused perspective, the 87 vs 90% base is a bigger difference than 4 vs 40% stun. Don't believe me? The best DE-10 I've ever made would do an average of 95 damage per hit through my chest plate and a psg, whereas the best sonic I've ever made would do around 45 per hit (and yes this is on my chest which is optimized for non-stun damage, with 4% stun tacked on for the ar1 bonus). It's just foolish to sacrifice from the base resists for more stun resistance when you're already twice as strong vs stun as you are vs ap1 weapons.
Then you have to account for the fact that stun weapons have lower damage and slower speed than non-stun weapons, and the fact that a suit with your heavy stun armor would be 350 or so encumberance heavier.
That helmet isn't the only 90 base heavy stun piece I own, but I stand by my statement that this is the best full suit I can piece together from what I own, and it's the best armor I've seen.
) I know how long it takes to get those dang 90% slices./bow
UmmonPrime wrote:
You should be able to raise the stun resist and still get the 90% base after slicing. Very nice armor, but I bet you could get that stun up without sacraficing anything.
Like Arox tried to demonstrate, having higher stun may be a nice number to look at but if you do the maths the difference is not what it seems like if you are wearing an average PSG....
Btw a 13% stun Chest and a 39% Stun one, the damage difference against a stun baton or a Geno Blaster is something like 4-5%........
Armor is not all about the stats displayed, it's about understanding how the armor protects you from damage too...
You can get the stun higher ( My own suit is 13% Stun 90% base except the helmet is 27% Stun 90% Base (nothing in special except elec and stun)) but the hamis higher.
Compared to Arox I think my suit is about 240-250 health and mind ham higher and maybe 400 action Ham higher...
That is still bellow 800 min ham and remains reasonable but his suit is better....
I sell both 13% Stun 70% Base and 39% Stun 66% Base and I am amazed how many people really don't understand the game mechanics and buy whole suits of 39% Stun when there is really no need to do so......
PS : God knows Arox and I are not friends, but he does understand how armor and weapons work, which sadly doesn't seem to be the case for all AS...
Message Edited by Ail on 08-25-2004 01:58 PM
Message Edited by UmmonPrime on 08-25-2004 04:42 PM