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Thread: No decay on armor -> Armor customization kits
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Qui-Rae
Mon Nov 07, 2005 4:20 am
#1
How about Armor customization kits to keep thearmor business going in the NGE.
Should require resources for about the same cost ofone suit of armor and should be enough to colorone suit.
FlurryArmorsmith
Mon Nov 07, 2005 6:40 am
#2
oh good idea.
I CAN MAKE ARMOR until no one needs to buy any more, crafting carefully to get the best stats, mixing and matching resources to get the most out of them, come up with imaginative color schemes, carefully crafting enhanced top quality armor...
THEN I can be reduced to making occasional runs of customization kits that any artisan could do?
UM that = no content, no socializing with the customers, helping them get the best armor for their purposes, making friends, OH did I mention socializing?
YA RIGHT
pykescylla
Mon Nov 07, 2005 6:52 am
#3
The thing about crafters is that we like our profession complicated and challenging. Just like combat toons, we like to sort out the best of the best. Remember, as traders, we can do NOTHING but craft and sell in the NGE. So as Flurry said about (albeit somewhat testily), cranking out kits would be booooriiinnng. We're not in crafting for the the money; we're in it because we want to have fun.
Qui-Rae
Mon Nov 07, 2005 11:42 am
#4
Ofcourse, but im sure itd be appreciated by the rest of the community.
Though i do believe that armor, weapons etc will still decay from use (they only mentioned no decay upon death)
but theres only so much armor you can craft and this would be a good addition »not all Traders/AS craft for the challenge but for the money.
Katrine001
Mon Nov 07, 2005 12:07 pm
#5
The no decay bites huge and will substantially kill us and most other crafters.
They need to do a few things.
Like Bio Link all armor and weapons. At least eliminate used armor being re-sold. Let it be sold for decent money to junk dealer.
Broaden color palletes on all armor types and remove the Recon/Assault/Battle requirement. This will allow people to want changes occasionally. Also increase caps substantially so armor will actually get better over time. Heck add a new required resource or two that slowly increases. Future AS's are gonna be toast.
Release on a regular basis new armor looks (schems) so there are intermittent "new looks" available to all characters.
Geeeez. If they don't we will be paddling stuff that sells once a week and people will sell for a LOSS.
TheNola
Mon Nov 07, 2005 2:34 pm
#6
If there were really no more decay in the NGE, then armor customization kits is a definitely a superbly horrible idea.
With armor customization kits, not only do we make good armor and they are able to use it forever, but when they get tired of the armor color, they just have to buy a dye kit and change it to whatever color they want, so they won't have to buy a new set from the armor. With no decay, crafters are hurting enough as it is. The dye kits would only hurt the armor business more.
If there were some kind of armor decay in the NGE, then I think the customization kit would be ok.
Message Edited by TheNola on 11-07-2005 04:37 PM
Turkina
Mon Nov 07, 2005 9:55 pm
#7
Qui-Rae wrote:
Ofcourse, but im sure itd be appreciated by the rest of the community.
Though i do believe that armor, weapons etc will still decay from use (they only mentioned no decay upon death)
but theres only so much armor you can craft and this would be a good addition »not all Traders/AS craft for the challenge but for the money.
Sorry, but wrong.
After 2 solid days of testing on TC, quite literally NOTHING decays. Not even speeders/swoops. Not from use, not from death, not from death without insurance 
My silent hope was that after seeing Tiggs post about a bug where combat animations would pause to "reload" a weapon, that perhaps WS would now craft ammo to offset zero decay on weapons, and we AS's would perhaps be able to craft amor shards/plating to reinsert into armor. But alas, none of that on the TC gameplay. Everything is still pristine, and believe me, all my gear has gotten a severe workout the past 48hrs...
EDIT: Typo
Message Edited by Turkina on 11-07-2005 09:56 PM
pykescylla
Tue Nov 08, 2005 1:50 am
#8
Qui-Rae wrote:Ofcourse, but im sure itd be appreciated by the rest of the community.Though i do believe that armor, weapons etc will still decay from use (they only mentioned no decay upon death)but theres only so much armor you can craft and this would be a good addition » not all Traders/AS craft for the challenge but for the money.
Well, I'm sure the community would appreciate it, but am I a service for other players or do I get to enjoy the game, too? And I don't think there will be many crafter post NGE that are in it for the money because there's nothing you can do with your money but craft some more. That is unless you have an alt to support, but I can't support a game where you have to pay for multiple accounts to really enjoy it.
-VtS-Maddix
Tue Nov 08, 2005 4:38 am
#10
Qui-Rae wrote:How about Armor customization kits to keep the armor business going in the NGE.Should require resources for about the same cost of one suit of armor and should be enough to color one suit.
Hell no.
Think about it. With no decay people will only need to come to Armoursmiths once. After that the only reason for them to ever buy another suit of armour again is if they want to change their appearance, i.e. with a different colour set of Composite to the one they already bought.
This suggestion means instead of buying another suit of armour they'll only need to buy a crappy little customisation kit. It will make business worse for us, not keep us going.
pykescylla
Tue Nov 08, 2005 6:10 am
#11
In the defense of the OP, you guys did miss the part about a kit being about as expensive as a new suit of armor. But, yeah, where's the fun in that?
MonKaiku
Tue Nov 08, 2005 6:16 am
#12
pykescylla wrote:
In the defense of the OP, you guys did miss the part about a kit being about as expensive as a new suit of armor. But, yeah, where's the fun in that?
I read it, I would want to be an Armorsmith, not a armorcolorkit smith
Kam_Revel
Tue Nov 08, 2005 9:19 am
#13
There was once a time and a place where a color kit for armor would have been suitable. I asked for it as did many others when factory crate production was broken, color palettes got screwed over for the fourth or fifth time in the last two years.
Now however, it will most certainly be the one thing to stay away from. More variety of armor, more colors even to hand craft would be better alternatives to ask for, however I don't think it should be the focus.
The simple fact is we should not be asking for alternative trinkets or optional doo-dads when our when our main crafted industry is potentially in trouble with the "no decay whatsoever" idea. I really think they half-a$$ed the Trader profession in haste to push the NGE through. There should be "decay from use" and it makes perfect sense and would not eliminate our content. Focus on asking for that back people. The entire smithing community should focus on that.
Now however, it will most certainly be the one thing to stay away from. More variety of armor, more colors even to hand craft would be better alternatives to ask for, however I don't think it should be the focus.
The simple fact is we should not be asking for alternative trinkets or optional doo-dads when our when our main crafted industry is potentially in trouble with the "no decay whatsoever" idea. I really think they half-a$$ed the Trader profession in haste to push the NGE through. There should be "decay from use" and it makes perfect sense and would not eliminate our content. Focus on asking for that back people. The entire smithing community should focus on that.
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