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ElitrosFF

Wed Jun 02, 2004 6:38 am

Alright.. sobeit that Composite gets the nerf.. Other armor get the revamp and improved.. Now what? Okay we will have Padded armor thats good.. great thats a nice thought I now need to try to find 1mil units of new hide to produce this armor.. hmm I guess that will cost me 50+ cpu.. I am overjoyed at the thought that I need 10x the hunter gathered hides etc..

Be warned.. Armor is about to become way more expensive from this here AS. Take a look at what I have amassed.

Units of resource ie. 5mil = 50 x 100k Stacks

Layers:

5mil Metal (1850+ oq/sr)

7mil Amorph. Gems (1850+)

2mil Polymer (1800+)

2mil Crism Sil (1400)

2mil Vertex (1800+)

Segments:

1.5mil Kirrium

2mil Polysteel

3mil Colat

Makes 21basesegments on its own and goes for 35base with 3 layers... (23% @ experimentation)

Armor:

5mil Aluminum (1700+)

2mil Beyr. Copper (1600+)

5mil Intrusive Ore (1900+)

5mil Naboo Fiberplast (1800+)

5mil Solid Petro (900+)

1.5mil Wooly Hide (1600+)

Alright now thats out of the way how much did I spend on it all.... Oh just a measily 200+ million credits and counting.. It makes 80/80/70-72 base armor and 39% Stun.. With this revamp what do I really do with all of it.. I guess its almost worthless if another armor becomes better then the one I currently make I am totaly **edit**ed. I am very concerned about these changes.. Especialy about the resources that other armors take to assemble although I have 70mil units total in my reserves this is going to really hurt bad I feel..

/cry

Message Edited by ElitrosFF on 06-02-2004 09:40 AM

Message Edited by ElitrosFF on 06-02-2004 09:49 AM

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ElitrosFF

Wed Jun 02, 2004 7:12 am

#2

Anyways regardless of all the above.. I think AS is going to become more of a chore then ever.. This profession will start to consume my RL. At which point the game is another Job and I am will be more likely to drop it completely.

DEVs = Big Confusious mess which leads to /agro its players with spontanious changes all the time.. If you do it right the first time then its done.. Heck you could leave composite where it is and improve other armors whilst increasing the dmg of weapons. Why not just do that? Weaponsmiths would be happy and PVP would still be cool although it would be faster. This might mean you need to add some HAM to critters but who cares really.

/set Enviromental characters + 30% HAM

/set Weapons +25-30% DMG

/setArmors + to resists except composite.. Lets face it Composite is our Master lvl armor and should be the best we can make...

/makeImperial AS able to make ST armor which is on par with Composite (best idea to make a SW's game)

/nerf Combat medic and Rifleman. Yes as a Rifleman I agree we are a bit overpowered

/nerf KD. KD's are so lame it aint funny

Combat is now balanced although good luck killing any Jedi.

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ElitrosFF

Wed Jun 02, 2004 7:17 am

#3

Oh since I am now rambling..

/get rid of stun all together.. Its retarded.. Stun damage type makes as much sense and Fusion Generators that simply extract radioactive..

Stun is a state of being not type of dmg you retards.. Punch me in the mouth I will be stunned.. Hit me on the head with a blunt object I will be stunned and damaged but that damage would be Kinetic wouldnt it.. but seriously how can somthing that stuns you do any damage.. Thats just lame.. The point of stunning somthing is to incap it without doing any dmg at all.

Message Edited by ElitrosFF on 06-02-2004 10:19 AM

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ElitrosFF

Wed Jun 02, 2004 7:35 am

#4

Lastly.. I swear.. Biceps and Bracers should not exist.. They should be part of all chest plates.. Lets think about this a second.. Snap on Armor? Seams on my shoulders, how annoying would that be? Chest plates should cover all but the hands for many reasons.. the main one being comfort although this is a game.. it does not make sense that armor is seamed.. These seams would actually leave holes or weak pts in it and really its just plain stupid and another little annoyance to have to build..

Hell they build full uper body protection including arms a thousand years ago on earth.. Futuistic armor technology is outdated.

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ElitrosFF

Wed Jun 02, 2004 7:46 am

#5

Again.. RIS.. Alright I think that RIS should just always be 90%.. Its so hard to get the materials it should resist to all dmg types and be on par with Mandalorian armor.. These should be pinacle armor with amazing HAM costs being their primary advantage.

If they do anything to current composite just reduce it 10% or so.. but I am hearing rumors of 30% + which would be outrageous.

/please inform us TH.. Please end speculation and say what you are planning.

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Darkshear

Wed Jun 02, 2004 8:37 am

#6

well, you may not be able to make all the good armor is all, you'll ahve to specialiaze, unless you want to spend huges amounts of time trying to gather and make it all. Personally i think its good.... will add some variety and flavor to AS profession

Asir_SWG

Wed Jun 02, 2004 9:27 am

#7

Wow... Elitros, who stole your candy! Best rant I have seen for a while.

I am laughing so hard right now.... But some good ideas there.

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ElitrosFF

Wed Jun 02, 2004 9:52 am

#8

I totaly agree that the other armor should be better.. I like variety too but the components for say Padded is outrageous.. It should by all means be better then composite for all the hides and junk you need to make it. I swear composite is so easy to make really. Why bother with others that need leathry, scaley, bone, blah blah blah.. I make composite.. Just /add wooly

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Bainas

Wed Jun 02, 2004 10:37 am

#9

"Hell they build full uper body protection including arms a thousand years ago on earth.. Futuistic armor technology is outdated."

Umm pal? Star Wars was a longtime ago, in a galaxy far, far away......

'Dark' Helmet

stujak

Wed Jun 02, 2004 10:48 am

#10

ElitrosFF wrote:

Anyways regardless of all the above.. I think AS is going to become more of a chore then ever.. This profession will start to consume my RL. At which point the game is another Job and I am will be more likely to drop it completely.

DEVs = Big Confusious mess which leads to /agro its players with spontanious changes all the time.. If you do it right the first time then its done.. Heck you could leave composite where it is and improve other armors whilst increasing the dmg of weapons. Why not just do that? Weaponsmiths would be happy and PVP would still be cool although it would be faster. This might mean you need to add some HAM to critters but who cares really.

/set Enviromental characters + 30% HAM

/set Weapons +25-30% DMG

/setArmors + to resists except composite.. Lets face it Composite is our Master lvl armor and should be the best we can make...

/makeImperial AS able to make ST armor which is on par with Composite (best idea to make a SW's game)

/nerf Combat medic and Rifleman. Yes as a Rifleman I agree we are a bit overpowered

/nerf KD. KD's are so lame it aint funny

Combat is now balanced although good luck killing any Jedi.

You don't really need to do this, just decrease the pvp damage reduction from 75% to say some where betweer 40% and 50%.

Porbably be much easier than revamping all the mobs again and changing weapons.

Stujak Dumblede: Nub Bounty Hunter Extraordinaire

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ElitrosFF

Wed Jun 02, 2004 1:43 pm

#11

Depending how extensive the changes this is reset game for us.. If we are now semi forced to make 5 different types of armor imagine the confusion we will have in our stock piles.. We dont exactly have infinite storage and this is just another great benefit of what is being done possibly..

We need much hide bone and other junk to make the other armors as well so now we have to contract out way more to get this stuff and the best price I can get wooly etc for is about 50+ cpu.. Thats going to make you smile when total cost of armor sky rockets thru the roof.

I may be dumb but I am not an idiot. I know this is going to cause some serious problems.. Padded for example costs about 100k+ to make good stuff.. What shall I charge for that? hmm I suppose 250k-350k.. now wait composite is nowmore then likely still the best so whats that go for? 500k? I charge 240k on Radiant for composite now.. I am lowering it to 150k a suit because if you look at the economy tracker most people dont have a lot of credits to buy these things with.. In order to be fair about things in the way of combat balance people need the same armor.. So here we an entirely new dilema on our hands..

/golf clap @ DEVs

If you are so worried about people wearing the same damn armor then allow the AS' to make Rebel armor and ST armor.. Thats the way it should be anyways.. When was the last time you saw a non NPC storm trooper.. Hell I would wear ST armor all the time if it was good.

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ElitrosFF

Wed Jun 02, 2004 1:46 pm

#12

Oh whats even better all the smiths will be driving up prices to get resources from the Rangers etc.. So enter bid wars on that in every type of area to get an edge.. Lovely isnt it.. We are going to have great times trust me.

About harvesting my own resources.. Ya me and all 20 of my accounts.. I need 10 factories at least to make armor.. That does not exactly leave me with a lot of lots considering the homes and storage I need as well for all my junk.. I dont feel like paying SOE $200.00 a month for accounts like some do.

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ElitrosFF

Wed Jun 02, 2004 1:55 pm

#13

Well man just think of it this way.. About the seamless chest plate that incorporates arm armor.. I think if they build lightsabers, rocket launchers, flame throwers, composite armor segments they could overcome this problem.

Its stupidity really.. Make the game so damn frustrating thats its not enjoyable.. Thats what its getting to trust me..

Come space expansion let me guess I need to goto Endor and talk to an Ewok that gives me schematics for the screw. If you do not get the screw you can not build the tie fighter.. The catch is the ewok must show you how to make a screw everytime you want to make a ship or you are screwed.

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