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Message Edited by JeCy on 05-05-2005 01:40 AM

i can agree to what u are saying , the only armor that kinda makes sense to me is the recon , BE , pistols etc are all ranged so ideally ur gonna be say fighting from afar so that is why the extra energy and the penalty to kin , , battle has no penalties, but yes it should have the extra kin , assault imo should be the non penalty armor .

Think Tanks wrote an answer to this on the BH forum but I can't find it now. Basicly it because the game has changed since the decision was made, from the start BH got assault cert so they could wear mandalorian and BH armor and at this time lightsaber was still it's own damage type that you where supposed to be able to layer against. But then different decisions where made and jedi got energy damage instead but BH was still stuck with assault (if they where given another cert they wouldn't be able to wear nither BH armor nor mandalorian).

But there is always a workaround, just pick up a prof certed for recon armor as your second combat prof, rifleman, pistoleer or smuggler for example.

Actually there are plenty of lvl 50/54 ranged kinetic weapons now, check out the following thread in the weaponsmith forum for full details. Master BH scatter is now kinetic, so is fwg5 and those sniper rifles, plus dart carbine. All big damager dealers.

http://forums.station.sony.com/swg/board/message?board.id=weaponsmith&message.id=80679

Hence the idea that pre CU theme that energy=ranged is no longer true.

I agree with you with regard to Jedi hunting for MBH though, recon sounds like the best choice if you want to have a jedi only hunting suit.

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turtleblues wrote:
i can agree to what u are saying , the only armor that kinda makes sense to me is the recon , BE , pistols etc are all ranged so ideally ur gonna be say fighting from afar so that is why the extra energy and the penalty to kin , , battle has no penalties, but yes it should have the extra kin , assault imo should be the non penalty armor .

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BE is not ranged. They need to be in 15m to sample DNA and that field work is why there were given armor. So BE is another profession that makes no sense, much like all the melee professions not getting assult.

Yea, my recon is right at 6800 with some layers added in. Then you slice it and your getting better. I think when they do some better resources, I will be able to get layers to add another 50 to 60 instead of 37.

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JeCy wrote:

after playing with this stuff.. its mainly hunting armor. The energy is practically usless even with 4 layers it looks just like a non layer battle. To me just hearing the name assault means it should be heavy and soak up tons of damage . Yea it can take a decent amount of damage against cirtters. but in pvp and vs jedi i just cant see this stuff working well at all. even qaud layer primus is not all that great in the E department.. oky sure you toss in a psg its maybe 7500 in both enegy and kin.. but that dont block any melee energy. which seeing assault is up close and personal that leaves a huge hole.

With base line of high kin low energy and mid line elementallike battle.. what really is the point of this stuff? For hunting i wouldnt take anything else.. WOOT qaud layer kin chitin.. heavnly cirtter armor. But Npcs or pvp id take a nice suit of battle or recon any day. The amount of kin damage from weapons is very very low.. i dont know the % but there are only a few weapons that do kin damage. just looking at this armor you know is energy vuln even with a psg. Why would SOE give the primary BH armor energy vuln when a BH's role is to hunt jedi? every single BH i know wants a suit of 8k energy layer recon, or 4 layer battle. DId they screw up making these armors?

To me assault should have non layer battle armor stats with a 1k boost in energy.. heavy

Battle should be even 1k less base and a 1k boost in kin. Kin = to assaults kin.. (its mellee prof armor which needs high kin protection.

recon (light) 1k lower than battle with 6 layers alowed to bring up the stats leaving bigger holes as it should be..and speicalized, its light armor

as it is.. 4 layer energy assualt or 4 kin layer recon all come out looking like non layer battle. there is zero flavor in armor now. gratned theree are tons of skins but thats it. and to top it off you can look at any armor and say well the hole is here. Battle is the only one that keeps you guessing.

The only logic i can possibly see in this is to balace combat profs. with slices caped and all weapons looking viturally identical in the DPS dept.. atleast from a cert lvl point of veiw. sure there are some that are just not good. but when your doing 500 dps.. on a rifle or a pistol really what is the difference? right now the way the armors certs for profs.. with the stats on them.. they just dont make since. sure the names fit the prof.. but the stats surely dont.

PS.. if they upped the elemental damage or the amount of elemenatl damage weapns and sabers did this would make much more since.. but as it is now its soo low having your elemetnal lowered by 1k isnt that bad.. atleast as far as our testing has gone

Message Edited by JeCy on 05-05-2005 01:40 AM

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Equip a PSG with it. Offsets the low energy. Also remember that jedi can do kinetic dmg so the other armors have just as much of a disadvantage.

its how they "Balance" the system

then again most BH's are duel masters and more then likely pistoleer which uses recon

Problem solved hehe

PSG's will NOT help you vs jedi no more, it stops only RANGED energy attacks, even saber throw from a jedi is considered melee hits

Can't you not make assualt armor with energy layers so it basically become a battle armor in stats?

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JeCy wrote:

/sigh that sill makes mando the JEDI HUTING armor total crap vs jedi... BH shouild have the best armor vs jedi.. this is NOT the case..

Hmm lets think.. the rarest hardest thing to get in the game is total crap for what its ment too i dont know how you all are missing this

Je'Cy

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I am not missing anything Je'Cy, but the words you are using highlighted above are a little strong for a difference of approx 9% resists. Energy layer the mando and with good resources you should be able to hit the 6k base cap. Energy layered recon isnot going to be much higher than 8200-8300. This equates to a difference of 9% which I agree is quite significant given the base of 48%, a change from 48% to 57% is actually a 20% increase, its still not total crap though.