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Thread: Interesting results: Energy vs Kinetic Assault

Moge_Tira_Tru
Fri May 06, 2005 11:14 am
#1

The other day I wasnt thinking and I did a run of Quad Energy Assault Segments. Today I corrected that mistake and made a run of Quad Kinetic Assault Segments.
All layers where about the same stats:

Kinetic Layers: 89 -90
Energy Layers: -90 89

Now look at the results I got:

Quad Kinetic Segements: 1326/608/967
Quad Energy Segments: 671/1279/975

I would have thought the Kinetic Segements would be had a great margin in Kinetic than the Energy Segments did on Energy. They actually came out pretty even. So given this, I quess your technically 'could' make Energy Assault armor if your really wanted it.



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Kesslan
Fri May 06, 2005 11:18 am
#2


Might be a big market for it then. I'll have to try a run myself. At least for bounty hunters this would probably be a big seller witht he main damage type on lightsabers being energy.



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Brutus_Krylop
Fri May 06, 2005 11:47 am
#3

One thing to consider is that the +/- 1000 isn't applied until the core is constructed. Assault and reconnaissance segments have no penalty or bonus.



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Carason
Fri May 06, 2005 1:16 pm
#4







rahbert wrote:
This is all still confusing to me lol.

1. Assault armor favors kinetic resistance. True or false? TRUE

2. So when you put a kinetic layer in it boosts the kinetic while penalizing the energy. True or false? TRUE

3. If you put an energy layer in, it slightly boosts the energy and slightly penalizes the kinetic. True or false? TRUE

4. Primus boosts both energy and kinetic. It boosts the energy the same as an energy layer would. It also boosts the kinetic the same as a kinetic layer would. True or false? FALSE - Primus only gives 1/2 the boosts to each. i.e. you can do +80kin/-80en Kinetic Layers, -80kin/+80en Energy Layers, or +40kin/+40en/-40 base Primus Layers

5. If 4 is true, then 4 primus layers is always the best. True or false? Because of #4, it depends

6. If 5 is false, i.e. primus boosts energy and kinetic but not as much as a kinetic or energy layer by itself.... then how would 2 primus and 2 energy layers do? The 2 primus would boost kinetic and energy... then the 2 energy would boost the energy even more and penalize the kinetic.... but that's ok since we boosted the kinetic with the primus..... In the example of the 40/80 scenario I mentioned above, 2 Primus + 2 Energy would have the following end effect on armor: -240 to Kinetic, +720 to Energy, -240 to base stats. It would be one way to get energy up without totally killing the kinetic. I've done this for someone on Assault, and it doesn't "look" very impressive in the outcome - it would probably stand out more in Recon, since lots of players just like to see that BIG number in there.






Message Edited by Carason on 05-06-2005 04:18 PM

Message Edited by Carason on 05-06-2005 04:19 PM





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rahbert
Fri May 06, 2005 1:29 pm
#5

Ah, thanks for your response. Fog in brain is now clear

Moge_Tira_Tru
Fri May 06, 2005 1:48 pm
#6

well since I had this mistake Segments already I made up a Prototype Bicep

with Quad Energy Layers the final piece was:

5964/5790/5877

So pretty much just like unlayers Adv Battle



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JeCy
Fri May 06, 2005 2:06 pm
#7

primus or kin is the only way to go.... if you only have one cert and HAVE to use assault then.. oky... but other wise dont bother



primus assault is decent.. but still not great... just over 7k kin just over 5k energy and elemental

_Monroe_
Fri May 06, 2005 2:19 pm
#8



edited... I didn't see the other reply.



As far as layers goes there is really on 2 that are ever needed. Primus for the rich PvPer and energy for the jedi huntersuit.


Message Edited by _Monroe_ on 05-06-2005 03:20 PM



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zounds_klaxons
Sat May 07, 2005 12:18 am
#9






Brutus_Krylop wrote:

One thing to consider is that the +/- 1000 isn't applied until the core is constructed. Assault and reconnaissance segments have no penalty or bonus.






so what kind of assault armor could you make with these layers then?


and, would it be much more expensive than "standard" no frills assault armor? if so, how much?





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Carason
Sat May 07, 2005 12:20 am
#10

Quad Energy Assault armor will come out with stats that are pretty similar down the line, depending on the resources used... it will end up looking like Battle Armor stats, the same would go for Quad Kinetic Recon amor. The theoretical capwith the addition of layers would be 1200 (12 layers * +99/-100 each), but more likely will be closer to 1000, which would just offset the bonus/penalty on Assault and Recon.





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freedomwarrior
Sat May 07, 2005 12:21 am
#11

Hey moge, ive noticed this as well when playing around with my layers. Not a whole lot of difference, but I did find at assembly, the energy assault armor stats were not what you would have thought. I made up some energy segments at 1201 energy(cant remember the other stats, forgive me), and in the end the energy was only around 5617 on the final product with kin still around 6900. Not sure if thats by dev design or not, but it did seem funny at the time.



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zounds_klaxons
Sat May 07, 2005 12:22 am
#12

what would quad energy battle armor look like?



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Carason
Sat May 07, 2005 12:28 am
#13






zounds_klaxons wrote:
what would quad energy battle armor look like?





It would have similar stats to Recon armor. For example, if your unlayered Battle is 5500 kin 5500 en 5500 base, quad energy layers would take it to about 4500 kin, 6500 en, 5500 base... very similar to unlayered Recon stats.





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