Armorsmith Archive

2 mil is for layered armor. It usually takes a resource kit to make these layers though, since no one seems to have the needed resources.

Suplly and demand. Shadowfire have very few AS and getting fewer by the days. If you feel he charges too much feel free to find a different AS. Brenn alone has about 5 or 6 AS selling armor arround the shuttle. We still havea free market.

On the other handI'm kinda of surprise that people would pay that much. I don't think consumers understand new armor stats and it's diminishing returns. At 8k you're not much better off than 7k it's only about 4% difference in resist. For those who says that it makes a difference they haven't test armor enough to know that the 1k difference in stats does not make a significant difference.Goodstrategy with lower stats armor will save you in combat more often than badstrategy and high stats armor.

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Homer_J_S wrote:

Goodstrategy with lower stats armor will save you in combat more often than badstrategy and high stats armor.

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I heard the armor is selling for this and more all over. Ive yet to go look, and ive yet to even TRY to find the needed resorcess to make armor again. But yeah if players are willing to pay for it them AS are going to make it and charge more till they see a drop off point from high prices.

It would be less if we were able to stock more than 10 suits at a time. Without having the factorys to run the final combine, it's hard to keep up with demand. Armor is selling as fast as you can stock it, so the only logical way to slow it down, is to raise prices.

You can always talk to an AS to see if they will work a deal with you, but you do have to take in mind that the cost to make armor has gone wayup and it takes about 4x as long to do it.....

I have yet to hear anyone say they love hand making the final product.

Message Edited by DaBarge on 05-13-2005 04:21 PM

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UmmonPrime wrote:

It would be less if we were able to stock more than 10 suits at a time. Without having the factorys to run the final combine, it's hard to keep up with demand. Armor is selling as fast as you can stock it, so the only logical way to slow it down, is to raise prices.

You can always talk to an AS to see if they will work a deal with you, but you do have to take in mind that the cost to make armor has gone wayup and it takes about 4x as long to do it.....

I have yet to hear anyone say they love hand making the final product.

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DaBarge wrote:

On Chilastra we are seeing 150K on up for regular armor and 425K and up for factional, but as they say supply and demand. A lot of demand on Chilastra but of the 5 other ASs that post on Chilastra TradeI have seen we seem to have hit this price as something fair for both sides. You will see a jump of around 150-250K on our server if you request something with layers in it due to the insane 5 min per layer factory time and just the amount of layers per core.

Message Edited by DaBarge on 05-13-2005 04:21 PM

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yes thy have gone abit mad on the prices ><

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wehcey wrote:

okay...after doing some math, faction armor costs about 370k for faction per suit...along with another 275k worth of cores. that is for the resources in the cores, seg, and quad layered plus the factory time....most people don't understand that is takes about 72hours or better to do a 1000layer run. we as AS have to take this into account.

so now we are about 650k for just the bear minimum. so now, the final apperance. i am still using ewekris which is worth a ton yet. and no elood..it's mine...lol...so we are talking around 800k for the finish suit in time, materials, resoures and blah blah blah.

okay..so is a 1.2 mill mark up way to much? i don't think so..supply and demand really sucks doesn't it. i don't want to sit on the server and craft non stop just to keep up. i figure that with a 1k run of armor layers is only about 10-11 padded suits. that sucks...no way we can mass produce anymore, no matter how hard we try.

i personally have scalled way back in my armor production. selling off all my pre-cu pieces i will just put about 10-20 suits a week on my vendors (sorry jettli..i will try more as more resources spawn) and when they are gone, they are gone.

before the CU every server had the best AS or the best top 5-8 that everyone wanted due to the stats on their armor and encomberance. now, with the 12pt master only benifit is if we get a "good" sucess, it is all a matter of resource quality. So the resource changes like dant wooley hide, naboo bristley and vintrium ore just went from 3cpu to about 20cpu+. this also effects price of armor. and also like elood said..alot of our 30k resource deeds are now the new resources..so them are on average 100cpu or better.

so in conclusion, until the factional armor or any new armor slows down on demand we will see the higher prices.

shadowfire for one has seen its toll in loosing AS's. jettli is still minor production and still around, phrozen i think is gone for good, i am limited due to resources, so there is only a hand full.

just my 2 cents, so before you whine about the prices think about the time it takes to making armor and the resources it takes. we are so dependent on others now...hides and lets not forget putting harvesters down is an adventure in its own. so the cost is gonna keep going up and up. what we AS need to do as a comunity is regulate ourselves on what we pay for hides. this will keep the cost of armor down being there was a 624%increase in armor usage. The bad thing about that is getting rangers and scouts to go out and activally collect. if we don't have that..supply will be down and demand will be up. it will be like the days of server opening where there was only 100k beyr copper on server. that was crazy times...lol

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I just want an unlayered pair so the 2 mil for layered thing was a attn grabber. The unlayered stuff i want is being sold for 1 mil a set. For us folks that dont strive to get millions in credits this is making it so we cant get any. I refer to the sticky in this forum that gives some pricing on layered and unlayered factional armor which I'm basing my "whine" on. Sorry if this causes ppl to get upset but id like to enjoy some armor myself. I even saved 60k faction points ( all ground out btw )cause i was'nt quite clear on how we were gonna get this new armor. So its just frustrating to find out ill have to wait longer to get it. Please dont take this as I hate all armorsmiths on our serverthat is the furthest thing from my mind. I JUST WANT MY ARMOR!!!

Message Edited by Trizusho on 05-14-2005 10:38 AM

Message Edited by Trizusho on 05-14-2005 10:41 AM