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Thread: Do you stock cheater sets? (Helm/Chest/Gloves/Boots)

Mutantt
Mon Nov 01, 2004 12:29 pm
#27

Question if you wear a ubese under shirt will this affect the suit.Or will it act like a form fitting under shirt?



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SPYDZ
Mon Nov 01, 2004 2:19 pm
#28

i sell them as single pieces i just make more of the [chest/boots/helm/gloves] i cant see any problem with this, its more the buyers than us. it costs us enought to make armor.... in business you dont make something that people arn't going to buy its just stupidity.


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Brutus_Krylop
Mon Nov 01, 2004 6:38 pm
#29

Do I stock them? Nope, I always stock full 9-piece suitsalong withindividual pieces. Putting 4-piece suits in packs is more hassle than it's worth, especially considering that someone will eventually buy one and then complain that they didn't get all 9 pieces, leading to angst and consternation all around. But I certainly stock more helmets, chestplates, boots, and gloves than pants, biceps, and bracers. It just makes more sense from a business perspective. People are going to buy and use what works.


Honestly, I just love how some folks here are calling the 4-piece suit a "cheater set" ... sort ofreminds me of the "temploiter" appelation used on theGCW & Jediboards all the time. Sorry folks, but if it's a game mechanics thing, it's sort of dumb for people not to follow the path of least resistance. No one's going outside the bounds of play by wearing these suits, so please get off your high horses about these.


Furthermore, from an armorsmithing and business standpoint, I don't care one way or the other. If you've ever used the 4-piece suit (or know someone who does), the armor decays much more rapidly on a 4-piece suit than a 9-piece suit, as all those hits are more concentrated. Replacement purchases will either be a wash or accelerated, on average. Heck, it even lets you concentrate on making more of those four pieces rather than a ton of biceps and bracers that might just languish on a vendor for weeks or months at a time.


So really, I'm all for the 4-piece suit as long as it keeps working. If it stops working, well, I'll just say "oh well" and return to the 9-piecers and making those biceps and bracers again.



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Garnax
Tue Nov 02, 2004 7:52 am
#30






Brutus_Krylop wrote:


Honestly, I just love how some folks here are calling the 4-piece suit a "cheater set" ... sort ofreminds me of the "temploiter" appelation used on theGCW & Jediboards all the time. Sorry folks, but if it's a game mechanics thing, it's sort of dumb for people not to follow the path of least resistance. No one's going outside the bounds of play by wearing these suits, so please get off your high horses about these.




I call it cheating because it isn't working as intended, quite similar to how vehicles used to auto-repair themselves when travelling before. The fact that everyone uses it just makes it sad that SOE doesn't care, it still is cheating in my book. (Doesn't stop me from using the bugs, but at least I'm honest. )




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VuricCalev
Wed Nov 03, 2004 2:13 am
#31

Im a trandoshan and have been wearing Bracer/chest/legs/helm and for some reason my health is getting hit hard quite lately. Its a drastic increase too so im wondering if they fixed the hole, im going to start wearing my biceps again anyway.



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Baciacca
Wed Nov 03, 2004 5:10 pm
#32

Trandoshans have no way of avoiding the armor hole with the way it was fixed. In fact Trandoshans have a higher chance of getting hit in an armor hole now than ever. Since they cannot wear gloves and boots, they will always have holes in those places. Wear all the other pieces for the best protection, but you're still going to have holes.




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JZeus-Sarono
Wed Nov 03, 2004 5:21 pm
#33

low-mid level mobs your ok for the most part, but dont tank big stuff with out full armor, wearing my "Test" 90% base PVE uhem,,, mini suit vs a krayt... 2 1500 hits in a row i was crying for mommy!! LOL


For the most part a melee person can chrug off attacks in these suits vs like i said low to mid level mobs, like stuff on dant, but get vs higher stuff wear full armor.




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KraytDragonMan
Wed Nov 03, 2004 6:30 pm
#34






JZeus-Sarono wrote:

low-mid level mobs your ok for the most part, but dont tank big stuff with out full armor, wearing my "Test" 90% base PVE uhem,,, mini suit vs a krayt... 2 1500 hits in a row i was crying for mommy!! LOL


For the most part a melee person can chrug off attacks in these suits vs like i said low to mid level mobs, like stuff on dant, but get vs higher stuff wear full armor.





I have no idea whats going on there. I always just wear those four pieces and I NEVER, EVER experience an armour hole. Just wear pants if you're wearing a skirt.
Imspaced
Wed Nov 03, 2004 7:47 pm
#35

Mini suits dont work in pvE



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Asir_SWG
Thu Nov 04, 2004 5:59 am
#36







KraytDragonMan wrote:





JZeus-Sarono wrote:

low-mid level mobs your ok for the most part, but dont tank big stuff with out full armor, wearing my "Test" 90% base PVE uhem,,, mini suit vs a krayt... 2 1500 hits in a row i was crying for mommy!! LOL


For the most part a melee person can chrug off attacks in these suits vs like i said low to mid level mobs, like stuff on dant, but get vs higher stuff wear full armor.





I have no idea whats going on there. I always just wear those four pieces and I NEVER, EVER experience an armour hole. Just wear pants if you're wearing a skirt.






Must admit I do not hunt Krayts but against lesser mobs like Tusken Observers, GDK's, night sisters I have no issues with a 4 piece set.... Again - I think the following is important - I am human and use camo's and form fitted shirts...

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Baciacca
Thu Nov 04, 2004 8:58 am
#37

Yes, as has been said by others, there is no armor hole for the 4 piece suits in PvP or PvE as long as you are not wearing a skirt as certain ones create an armor hole. I have tanked every high level mob on my swordsman toon with the 4 piece suit and never been hit in an armor hole. Everybody I know only wears 4 piece suits. They never get hit in armor holes.




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VuricCalev
Thu Nov 04, 2004 1:33 pm
#38

At least we arn't still in the days where a Jedi could target your hand....oh yes we trandoshans remember that well.....



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