Armorsmith Archive

If you're on valcyn server, there must be more than one master armorsmith, because you haven't been talking to me... heh.

If you haven't used them already, I would be willing to make you some freecomposite with your segments just to see to see how they turn out.. right now i'm getting 38% stats on composite with the advanced segments, just curious if I could get something similar to that with your krayt segments but with lower HAM. Send me an email on there if interested.

Phup (Owna Inc)

Selling wookieskin rugs... Cheap!

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_lana_ wrote:

For information i already do Composite with 41% protect without this segments. (Except electricity is in special line)

then for the moment is not too interresting

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Well

Then your server has better materials than ours, these segments would give you around 4-5% more resists than you get now, they would also have x/y/z less ham per piece where x/y/x is the ham values on your current segment and they would also give 5000-z more integrity per piece where Z is your current segments integrity.

Apparently you know how to make composite but you know little of how the mechanics of armorsmithing work.

Everyone is so sensitive. 36% is awesome with the standard composite segments. I can only get about 26 with the crappy ore and solid petro that's been available since i knew i needed it. I'm pretty sure that if electricity is getting moved to a special cat, then the 41% guy is using advanced composite segments (I get37-39% with advanced segments).. if you used goodadvanced segments and the rest of your materials, who knows what outlandish statsyou would get, you armorcrafting god/goddess... there, feel better?

Phup (Owna Inc, Valcyn)

Q: How many wookies does it take to change a lightbulb?

A: ACwwoorrroawrc!

Hey, phup, where you based at? Would you be willing to teach me Tech 1 soon? If you're on Corellia, that'd be awesome, but if not, don't worry. :-)

I looted 10 krayt composite segments tonight on scylla server. If anyone armorsmith from my server wants to help me with these then send a tell to Holla!!

I can get 40% on my Composite w/o advanced segments w/ segments that are 4% base, 2% Electricity, 9/9/11 HAM. I'm pretty sure i'm near the limits of what is possible w/ regular segments. The ore is 999 OQ, 999 SR, the solid petro is 989 OQ, the Wooly Hides are 969 OQ and about 600 SR, the Aluminum is around 700 OQ and 950 SR, the Beyrillus is around 900 OQ and 800 SR, and the Fiberplast is around 950 OQ and 850 SR. Not a lot of room for improvement there. Oh and the segments are made from 989 OQ and 780 SR steel.

I really wish I could get my hands on some of these dragon segments as it would seem that I'd be at around 46% effectiveness, 9/9/11 lower HAM on each piece and around 39,000 condition on each piece. That armor would be kicking.

Ibixat,

I know how work armorsmith what i said it's only that on my server it's too difficult to find this segment, that is no usefull for the business.

Of course if someone bring this segments and ask me to do amor with that i always make it

It was simply a business vision, not an judgment

I'm not an armorsmith, but I'm just dropping in to let you know that I looted about 30 Sharnaff Plate Segments for chiten armoryesterday on Chilastra. The base effectiveness is 7%, the integrity is 800and it adds 28 action encumerance as well as 24 mind encumerance. I would be happy to give these plates away if anyone is interested in making aset for me using them. Thanks!

Quoting Resistance Values without staing your HAMs is totally rediculous. People that post "I make 40% composite so I rock and poster x sucks" are not really impressing me with their skill. They would know the importance of HAM in assessing an armor if they really fathomed armorcraft, and would post *all* of the data. I see so many Master Armorsmiths just on my own server that sell armor that is horrible crap. Newsflash: Sticking layers in padded and making it so heavy that your customers can't equip 3-4 pieces even after slicing is BAD armor. GOOD armor means being able to equip a full suit unsliced and still offering high resistances; then slicing it for added gains. And yes, you can craft a suit of composite that can be fully equipped, unsliced, if you care about HAM costs.

People that think HAM doesn't matter, and make armor to reflect that, obviouslt don't use their own product. If you don't use armor, it would be awfully hard to understand its impact, both good and bad.

One thing you'll note with the Krayt Segments is they are going to give you an extremely pleasing low HAM product. Yes material quality plays a very critical role in your final product, but you aren't going to make a composite segment that's got 10% effectiveness and still have the encumberance of an unlayered segment (e.g. 4/4/5 or so).

The other issue I see the people nay-saying Krayt segments ignoring is the fact that these segments move electrical into the General Effectiveness Column, and have NO special protections. Huge bonus there. Instead of leaving that electrical at 4-5% while you work resists up and HAMs down, you can work resists without leaving that poor electrical low.

The armor and weapon component drops they added are the best thing since sliced bread. Sure not all of them work correctly yet, but the ones that do are proving to offer some interesting options, without leaving our generic products worthless.

Ariell ThunderWolf

Master Armorsmith, Chilastra

P.S. The fellow that posted the screenshots of his product with Krayt segments - that was a fantastic post. Nice to get a good look at what the product can yield, and you clearly made an excellent chestplate.

this is a little off-topic, but where do you find krayts? I spent a night looking in the krayt graveyard and didn't find anything. Do they only come out at a certain time?

A little more on-topic, someone had a post that the segments aren't working properly and is behaving much like layers. Is this true?

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_lana_ wrote:

Ibixat,

I know how work armorsmith ** what i said it's only that on my server it's too difficult to find this segment, that is no usefull for the business.

Of course if someone bring this segments and ask me to do amor with that i always make it

It was simply a business vision, not an judgment

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nah Lana I was being a b**ch about it. I was still ticked at losing the chestplate due to the lovely inability of this game to save data the last half hour it's running, even then it's selective and saves some info and forgets the rest. They are not that hard to get, quite frankly there are still a few classes who can solo krayts.. The juveniles can drop these too... also any Imp faction person with a lot of time on their hands could get 2-3 AT-ST's and those two pets could kill a krayt with a person adding some bleeds to the fight.

That stuff is you are making is advance composite because on Kauri there aren't enough resources to make it higher than 32-36. With that said, those HAM cost are outragous.

Krayt Segments work properly but Krayt Scales do not. They work as they are supposed to technically, which is a layer enhancement object, however, since layers do not work correctly, the scales don't. They move the resists into the Special Protection catagory that are listed on the enhancer, but lock the resist, and it cannot be experiementally increased.

Once layers are fixed, the scales will be great, so just hang onto them for now.