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Thread: Can you repair my armor?

Neyex
Sun Apr 18, 2004 3:55 pm
#27

I just figured out the perfect solution to this, i tell everyone my armor has a liftime gaurntee, i will repair it, for free, for the life of the armor, And thati only repair my armor..its perfect



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In_Disguise
Mon Apr 19, 2004 7:56 am
#28






Neyex wrote:
I just figured out the perfect solution to this, i tell everyone my armor has a liftime gaurntee, i will repair it, for free, for the life of the armor, And thati only repair my armor..its perfect





Hehe, while it may have sounded like a good idea at first, in business the term lifetime guarantee usually applies to the customers lifetime, notthe product in question!



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PrinceTadpole
Mon Apr 19, 2004 7:31 pm
#29

You know unless it's a guildie i never get asked to repair armour. And they all drop it off at my house so i can do it when i have time. /shrug maybe i spend to much time hiding out on rori



Cherub
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MasterMaverick
Tue Apr 20, 2004 2:56 am
#30





/venting on


I have also had my dealing with this in the past 2-3 weeks with people asking me to do some repairs. I have had a policy for a long time that I only repair armor that I make and I do it for free when I have the time. There is nothing worse then when you say no and they say "why" or try to make you feel bad about notfilling all their needs. I wish people would understand that as a crafter you don't sit in your shop crafting the whole time you are online. I try to take good care of my customers and will make the odd exception for those who I know to be a regular customer at my shop, but when somebody I have never seen or heard of before says I got your name from so and so saying you might be able to help me out and asks me to repair some armor that someone else made.../sigh. I do not refuse to repair armor in hopes that you will go and buy a brand new suit from me. I share a lot of what has already been said in the posts previous to mine about not liking the chances of repairing.


Another thing that bothers me is logging in and having tells sitting on my screen before I even load in. Unfortunately as crafters we can not provide office hours to those that will catch us in the worst places when you are out with your friends and you have them ask... yep.. "Can you repair my armor?"


For those who are not crafters, try sending an email to the person you wish to deal with be it for repairs or what not. Chances are if they are not busy and would like to help you out, they will reply to your email or send you a tell. If you don't get a response right away then maybe they are at the Geo cave or on the Vette missions... perhaps even trying to just sit around and socialize with some friends. I understood that when Ichose tobe a crafter that I would have requests and emails etc for my services, but I have 2 other master professions that I like to enjoy going out and doing things with my friends.


/venting off


phew



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Eugee
Tue Apr 20, 2004 6:41 am
#31




Eugee wrote:

1. I know that I can't repair the jacket, 0 condition is 0 condition. But can *I* repair my armor as good as a Master Artisan or Master Armorsmith? (Assuming I have the same tool.) I repaired my weapon once and it turned out... poorly, so I'd like to hear educated opinions on the matter.


2. Many of the pieces have lost a lot of their effectiveness (60% kinetic instead of the 68% it started with). Will they regain that with repairs? If not when does armor start losing effectiveness?






I'm not trying to come off like an ass to you folks. But after sifting through nine pages of searched threads, and reading every stickied post you have from back to front, there are two things quite clear: First, the above two questions are not answered in the stickied posts, or in 9 pages of threads. Second, every time this is asked, people just keep ranting about people having the audacity to ask an armorsmith to repair their armor.


I'm a doctor, who likes to where his tag, but doesn't really like buffing people all the time. I feel your pain. I need to repair my armor, and I'll happily e-mail an Armorsmith to set up a time to do so--or I'll fix it myself--if someone could answer my two questions. Most of this Ubese has dropped to 60% kinetic from 68%. Can I try to repair it back up to 68% or is it gone for good? When does armor start losing effectiveness for future reference?


This has already been asked previously, but the rant just kept going by, as though the questions were never asked. So please, I sympathize that you hate people asking you repair their armor and bitching if you fail a piece. I hate people asking me how much I charge then bitching that I charge more than everyone else (as a deterrent), but if you came to the Doctor board and asked me a question about your class not contained in our FAQ or a simple search of posts, I'd acknowledge the post and try to help.


Please help.




Jaysen Haebdun
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Slider067
Tue Apr 20, 2004 8:04 am
#32

1 - There hasn't been any definitive proof that an armorsmith can repair it any better than you can. Or have a better chance at success. I find that many know this, but want an AS to do it anyways. Can't say that I balme them. I feel the same way about nice weapons that aren't easily replaced.


2 - Yes. The armor will regain the original stats...minus some condition, depending on the actual success of the repair. I don't know the numbers, but the results can be: "Repaired with minor blemishes"," Repaired, however max cond is reduced", "Marginally repaired, max cond reduced", "Repair failed, item falls apart".


The verbage may not be exact, but it's close. The results are listed from best to worse.



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Eugee
Tue Apr 20, 2004 8:13 am
#33

Fantastic! Thanks a lot. I'll just repair it myself then, as a doctor there's the eternal debate as to whether or not using high functionality rating tools and stations matters, and I've gotten the same results using -14 FR tools and -30 stations, and +14.99 tools and +44.66 stations. I've actually got a set of composite now, the drag being I have to buff and get drunk in order to wear it. I'm seeing about getting some encumberance sliced tantel to stick in place of the helm, chest, and boots when I'm just riding out to check on a harvester and such, and don't feel like buffing.



Jaysen Haebdun
Master Doctor | Master Gunfighter
Slider067
Tue Apr 20, 2004 9:23 am
#34

Keep your eyes open for some light stuff. I make some 60-61% comp in the 500 range.


I basically carry 2 sets. One that's heavy with high resists and one that's light enough to wear all the time. I've found the stuff that's light to begin with is very nice with an encumbrance slice.





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Jordan_Karr
Tue Apr 20, 2004 10:09 am
#35

I about turn into a gibbering mass of goo when i get asked the question "can your repair my armor!!!"


Some times I am nice and say I dont carry repair tools with me while I am planet hopping (witch is true)


once in a blue moon I'll attempt a repair... Mostly for guild members only though!


Some times I explain that they have the same chance as I do..


and some times I just ask them did I make the armor???? Oh so its one of my competators armors... No I wont repair your armor for you...


and some times I just ignore them and go on my way...


But like most of us I dont need their 5 or 10k they are offering... Especially when I make that much in just a sale of a Composite part..





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Aunor_E
Tue Apr 20, 2004 11:14 am
#36


The sad thing is really that a MAS don't have a better chance or maybe even marginally better chance of success when trying to repair!!


I really think that one that can build a thing also can repair it! Ofcourse i dont think that it will be as it was when new, because then everyone would only need to buy one set of armors and then who would we sell our armors and weapons to!



I really would like to see the formula when trying to determine the seccess or failure of repairing!!



and what about the skilltapes and such with armor and weapon repairs on them. What do they add to?? I mean if i have an injury and wound treatment +5 it adds to my mod for that but i have never seen any mod in th skills like armor repair or weapon repair.



ahhh well im ranting!!







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ErithX
Tue Apr 20, 2004 11:42 am
#37

I repair for free. It takes MAYBE 1-2 minutes of my time in a crowded area. Its usually extermeely easy and extremely fast. It breaks, I give them my WP





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BaseballMartinez
Tue Apr 20, 2004 3:49 pm
#38





Some days I don't feel like doing it or I'm very busy and I say "Sorry I don't have time right now" and that's that.



Other days I don't mind and I macro the "You realize there is a significant chance of destroying on each repair right? No refunds and 3K per piece.", if I'm sort of busy (maybe scanning the planet and entering resources on SWGCraft while waiting for the shuttle).



If I'm not busy at all, the same as above but free.




Not sure why so many people's gitch is in a twist. If you don't want to repair, a short sweet put-off works 95% of the time like in my first sentence. No explanation necessary. If they have the audacity to ask "Why?", "Too long to explain" works (usually because it *is* too long to explain: "Look, I've been slain by lag 2 times today, and I'm in a bad mood,and I'm heading to someone who is going to give me some heals and buffs and I don't want to keep them waiting, and I'm currently having a social conversation with my friends...etc". If they are still so socially inept enough as to persist, /ignore solves that problem.





As for those who have come on here complaining that all AS are snobs. Some certainly are. But sometimes if we don't reply, maybe its because we're in Corellia or Theed and the spam is scrolling the conversation and I missed the tell. Maybe I forgot to put on afk when I went for a drink. Etc. Unless it becomes obvious, a good policy is to give people the benefit of the doubt, particularly when it comes to something that doesn't make a difference. You're not getting the result you want anyway, so why not give them the benefit of the doubt, which is possibly/probably valid,and save yourself the only thing you'd get out of it, feelings of annoyance and aggravation?





Sometimes, people need to be a little more understanding and chill, on both sides of the repair. You'll have more fun.



As far as whether an armorsmith has a better chance... I personally feel it is the case that MAS is better at it. I remember when I was a novice armorsmith and I tried repairing composite and PSGs. I would nearly always fail (actually, out of maybe 10 tries, I never had a success with 95% ARKs. gave up after that... and no, before you ask, they weren't at 0 condition ). Now at MAS,its maybe a 1 in 4 failure (been on a roll lately, so its been less than that even).




royalewitcheez
Tue Apr 20, 2004 10:07 pm
#39

Because I'm so close to Theed, I belive I show up on a character search when people are at the starport. So I get some people asking. For awhile I'd say "no, too many failures," but now I figure if I send them a wp to my shop, perhaps they'll keep it and stop by sometime. So if they come to me, I'll do it for about 5k. Generally people are grateful even if I fail on a piece, and I tell them that it's very possible I will even though I'm a smith.


As someone else has said, what else am I doing besides waiting on factories?





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