Armorsmith Archive
Thread: How can we make the CURB AS better? Enough take 2. Repost of original thread + Top AS issues
ZionHalcyon
Sat Apr 16, 2005 4:57 am
#27
JangoFett100 wrote:
Quizz wrote:
TheFightingCorcoran wrote:
Zion is just trying to kiss ass to be AS correspondant. Just ignore him.
agreed, i'm sick and tired how he puffs his chest and thinks he's better then everyone else.
The part I like best is when someone provides useful information, he compliments and says "that's what I'm looking for", as if he is the one this is all being done for, and we are reporting to him alone.
And Zion, how about you get on test center and actually do some testing. All I see out of you posturing. If you want to be a correspondent, show you can get your hands dirty.
I was on the other night grinding AS. Point?
ChaoticCat
Sat Apr 16, 2005 5:16 am
#28
Why do we need a corrospondent ? In the end they either quit or get fired because they get tired of trying to get answers from SOE. It would be far easier ( imho ) to just create a group of the best armoursmiths from each server and have them look at the state of the things and try to effective communicate any issues fears to SOE. The reason I suggest one from every server is you not only get a more open range of issues etc but you in theory also have someone on every server that can be contacted when you are on said server.
TheFightingCorcoran
Sat Apr 16, 2005 10:33 am
#29
ZionHalcyon wrote:
Quizz wrote:
TheFightingCorcoran wrote:
Zion is just trying to kiss ass to be AS correspondant. Just ignore him.
agreed, i'm sick and tired how he puffs his chest and thinks he's better then everyone else.Funny, where are your constructive posts?
Oh, that's right, while I am trying to help my profession, you are too busy dishing insults.
At least my insults are actually half good.
Quizz
Sat Apr 16, 2005 1:46 pm
#30
ZionHalcyon wrote:
Quizz wrote:
TheFightingCorcoran wrote:
Zion is just trying to kiss ass to be AS correspondant. Just ignore him.
agreed, i'm sick and tired how he puffs his chest and thinks he's better then everyone else.
Funny, whereare your constructive posts?
Oh, that's right, while I am trying to help my profession, you are too busy dishing insults.
depends how u define constructive. as far u are concerned CU can do no harm. anyone that speaks i'll will of it, even if its constructive, u just flame them. i've been watching your replies to alot of comments and u, the almighty,are the worst culprit forcoming down on a guy. U are no leader nor does anyone wish u to be.
I would not be saying this or any other person ifu didnt act inthis matter. so far i see lots speaking against u.
Skorbane
Sat Apr 16, 2005 9:45 pm
#31
Well there was a post by Okram2k that summed up all my feelings. Titled " 5 not so hard things devs can do to save armorsmithing " I understand you responded to a post but I think he responded with a few other great alternatives.
My biggest grip would be your responce to number 2:
"This is something that I don't think will change. My impression is that they put all these new things in to get everyone on the ground level again. Therefore, people who could not compete well in the market before will be able to catch up. I know the older crafters will hate this, but from a game perspective, it would lead to a much healthier economy."
So your telling me a guy thats been playing for 3 months will make armor just as good as me? After I have strived to seperate myself from the "average armorsmith" by gathering the best resources since launch....I have a quick question..Why havent I seen this drastic of a change for the weaponsmith profession? If we are trying to get all crafters back to SQUARE ONE(as far as resources are concerned) to adjust the economy then why was weaponsmith left untouched and only ADDED a few new weapons and new resources.
I responded with a short story to the post mentioned above by Okram..basically says i have been gathering resources for a year and spent millions of credits for what? To have the devs think they want to get "everybody on even ground"....
My biggest grip would be your responce to number 2:
"This is something that I don't think will change. My impression is that they put all these new things in to get everyone on the ground level again. Therefore, people who could not compete well in the market before will be able to catch up. I know the older crafters will hate this, but from a game perspective, it would lead to a much healthier economy."
So your telling me a guy thats been playing for 3 months will make armor just as good as me? After I have strived to seperate myself from the "average armorsmith" by gathering the best resources since launch....I have a quick question..Why havent I seen this drastic of a change for the weaponsmith profession? If we are trying to get all crafters back to SQUARE ONE(as far as resources are concerned) to adjust the economy then why was weaponsmith left untouched and only ADDED a few new weapons and new resources.
I responded with a short story to the post mentioned above by Okram..basically says i have been gathering resources for a year and spent millions of credits for what? To have the devs think they want to get "everybody on even ground"....
Wallid
Sat Apr 16, 2005 10:02 pm
#32
bostonbaka wrote:
ZionHalcyon wrote:
bostonbaka wrote:Take this thread and blow it out your a$$ zion.Just to give everyone a heads up, this man is a troll with a previous greviance against me, because one of his accounts got banned, and now he is after me with his alt. He has no interest in helping out the Armorsmiths - he just wants to take shots at me.There is a history there, just making people aware of it.
Uh huh, keep thinking im someone else.
Kid, if your going to bring tude like that, then lets go PvP. Zion is taking care of business. Unless you have an AS concern, or something helpfull to append on it, then make it aparent.
We're trying to get things figured out for AS, and hopefully make this thing work.
Boston, Baka says it all.
Wallid
Sat Apr 16, 2005 11:04 pm
#33
Kesslan said>>
Zion you've proven yourself not to be much better than people who come in and insult you. Since you simply continued to insult everyone else. Personally. I really dont like your attitude. And I hope you dont get the correspondant position. AS as a whole seem to hate you. And especially your attitude. That said to get it out of my system and entirely beside the point...
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Odd, the man was quite poliete compared to that troll(s). If he's going for the position, up to him. will be a long climb and hard to fill Okrams boots. Chill out.
as for the commant about not seeing a rep in here, unlikely though would be a great PR job in they did. Might even earn em brownie points.
Zion you've proven yourself not to be much better than people who come in and insult you. Since you simply continued to insult everyone else. Personally. I really dont like your attitude. And I hope you dont get the correspondant position. AS as a whole seem to hate you. And especially your attitude. That said to get it out of my system and entirely beside the point...
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Odd, the man was quite poliete compared to that troll(s). If he's going for the position, up to him. will be a long climb and hard to fill Okrams boots. Chill out.
as for the commant about not seeing a rep in here, unlikely though would be a great PR job in they did. Might even earn em brownie points.
Lauralon
Sat Apr 16, 2005 11:07 pm
#34
Wallid wrote:
Kesslan said>>
Zion you've proven yourself not to be much better than people who come in and insult you. Since you simply continued to insult everyone else. Personally. I really dont like your attitude. And I hope you dont get the correspondant position. AS as a whole seem to hate you. And especially your attitude. That said to get it out of my system and entirely beside the point...
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Odd, the man was quite poliete compared to that troll(s). If he's going for the position, up to him. will be a long climb and hard to fill Okrams boots. Chill out.
as for the commant about not seeing a rep in here, unlikely though would be a great PR job in they did. Might even earn em brownie points.
before hoping on zion's proverbal c*** maybe you should refer to NiBorg's signature. It has a link of why zion should not be our correspondent and it makes the point quite well. Especially considering the reason he should never our correspondent came from his zion's own mouth.
Wallid
Sat Apr 16, 2005 11:07 pm
#35
Quizz wrote:
TheFightingCorcoran wrote:
Zion is just trying to kiss ass to be AS correspondant. Just ignore him.
agreed, i'm sick and tired how he puffs his chest and thinks he's better then everyone else.
So laddie, ye got proof to back it up?
so far in his points I see only ways to help the AS profession on get us back on track to what is important after confronting a big let down. Is there something you can can contribute besides more flamage? Sence your an AS and have a chest to puff, let's here it. come on boy. speak up
Wallid
Sat Apr 16, 2005 11:16 pm
#36
Quizz wrote:
ZionHalcyon wrote:
Quizz wrote:
TheFightingCorcoran wrote:
Zion is just trying to kiss ass to be AS correspondant. Just ignore him.
agreed, i'm sick and tired how he puffs his chest and thinks he's better then everyone else.Funny, where are your constructive posts?
Oh, that's right, while I am trying to help my profession, you are too busy dishing insults.
depends how u define constructive. as far u are concerned CU can do no harm. anyone that speaks i'll will of it, even if its constructive, u just flame them. i've been watching your replies to alot of comments and u, the almighty, are the worst culprit for coming down on a guy. U are no leader nor does anyone wish u to be.I would not be saying this or any other person if u didnt act in this matter. so far i see lots speaking against u.
Quiz, you putting words in my mouth? Did I out right say I ddin't want him as a leader? So far all am seeing is you, a bounty hunter and a troll. And so far it's been nothin but deconstructive. I'm not sure about anyone else, BUt with his post I saw the look "we're getting this CURB weither we like it or not, they don't want to do major changes, so let's see if we can compremise". From you and the trolls, I just hear Flameage. I've been doing my grinding on and off myself but my main responsibility is to my first character, and keeping mystock going there, not to mention my job.If I was getting paid to play this game, I'd be inthe CU more often but that's it.
so Quiz Boy, let's see your answers.
TheFightingCorcoran
Sat Apr 16, 2005 11:23 pm
#37
Message Edited by TheFightingCorcoran on 04-21-2005 07:08 PM
Eutock
Sat Apr 16, 2005 11:33 pm
#38
ZionHalcyon wrote:
3: Being helpless to encumberance
The best of the best smiths on live have strives to bring armor that is both light AND effective. Now that dream is completly gone. We arenow a slave to the encumberance of our armors. If you make too good of armor, nobody will want it because it will slow them down too much. And the only way to make low encumberance armor will be to make low stat armor that nobody is going to want. This problem is further exemplified by us trying to fill armor for th ose who are working up their profession. If they just started they're gonna want one type of armor, then half way through they're gonna want another, then another, and then another when they master. Armorsmiths are turning into weaponsmiths with having to keep up a huge variety of stock, except with huge organics requirements in that stock, and costs of armor that is going to zap players of their resources, and get us labeled as greedy crafters even worse than now.
- This is something else that I don't think will change. All hinderances will become obsolete once someone masters their profession that is certed for that armor - it is all mitigated away. Therefore, experimenting on hinderances/encumberance would unbalance the game.
As a user of AS products,I can kind of see why this is being done. We've all grown spoiled to the virtually-no-penatly composite armor available today, compliments of super buffs that make encumbrance irrelevant. A well-balanced game needs tradeoffs in the form of certs and other measures. Sounds like this is going to present choices to the AS community, to decide what balance of armor they want to produce and sell, which may ultimately be the whole point.
Wallid
Sat Apr 16, 2005 11:38 pm
#39
TheFightingCorcoran wrote:
Wallid wrote:
Quizz wrote:
TheFightingCorcoran wrote:
Zion is just trying to kiss ass to be AS correspondant. Just ignore him.
agreed, i'm sick and tired how he puffs his chest and thinks he's better then everyone else.
So laddie, ye got proof to back it up?
so far in his points I see only ways to help the AS profession on get us back on track to what is important after confronting a big let down. Is there something you can can contribute besides more flamage? Sence your an AS and have a chest to puff, let's here it. come on boy. speak up
First of all, you sir, are SOOOOOOOO awesome. I mean, you totally rock. Your use of the word "boy" over the internet just totally destroys all counter arguement, and is sooooooooo intimidating. In fact, Im shaking right now. He just told that guy to "Speak up" boy. Awesome. Truly a winner you are. Oh, I just saw you said "Lets hear it". Ooooooooo man dagger through that guys heart! Man, I hope I never upset you over the internet!
Scroll down for my non-sarcastic post, turd.
"How can we make the CURB AS better? "Enough" take 2. Repost of original thread + Top AS issues."
Sorry, (why you ask? I really dont know) but Zion is just taking advantage of the AS rebellion to try to get AS correspondant. This guy might as well be tissue paper; hes so easy to see through. Not only do I think this guy might possibly be the biggest dork on the forums(even beating the GATers), he also is the biggest hypocrite too. I can imagine this guy as AS correspondant...
...wait no I cant.
Oh, I just totally stereotyped Zion. But you've obviously mistaken me for someone that gives a damn.
I've heard that somewhere, wait, I KNOW
That kid in "the Incridibles", that wants to be like Mr Incridible.
lol. Thought that looked too familiar. I could have called it a "she" depends on how correct you want to be.So. seems everyone thinks it's a grab for correspondant. Now that we are off topic. Who do you guys sudjest then? You all brought it up. Not me or Zion. What is your solution TheFightingCorcoran ?