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Thread: Player Correspondent Opening: Armorsmith

Masal
Fri Apr 15, 2005 3:30 pm
#274

Okram2k. You slapped his hand give him a second chance. Proved your point now show that you do care about the people as well.
MasterGuiJan
Fri Apr 15, 2005 4:42 pm
#275



Moge_Tira_Tru wrote:
well, I submitted my application for AS Cor.

I realize most of you have no idea who I am but I have been an Armorsmith for well over a year and I have a very stong understanding of what is happening both in the Old and the New system.

Oa'Kron was and still is a great leader for the AS community. Whoever gets the job will have big shoes to fill.
Wish me luck!

Message Edited by Moge_Tira_Tru on 04-14-2005 08:19 PM



Sweet. Moge would be excellent for this position. He's very good at organizing things.

Good luck Moge.



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ZionHalcyon
Fri Apr 15, 2005 4:43 pm
#276

*disregard*

Message Edited by ZionHalcyon on 04-15-2005 06:44 PM



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Liamo
Fri Apr 15, 2005 5:10 pm
#277






The_Great_Destroyer wrote:





Cafa wrote:


If cooler heads prevailed we wouldn't have a COMPLETE duplication of EQ2 as the promised CU.


You're not perceived as noble, just a jerk. You denial of the major problems, the lies and deceit, the shoot from the hip changes that were supposedly planned a year ago and are now changing daily based upon the number of bagles someone has for breakfast is astounding.


Instead of fixes for combat, we now have a system that makes it IMPOSSIBLE to play the game with anyone in your community that isn't within 5 levels of you, and is completely worthless to your development if they're not within 3 levels of you.We have experimentation and crafting changes with zero explanation, feedback that would get most anyone I know fired, and utter contempt for the playerbase from the producers of this game.


Yep, you'll fit in fine.







The only denial going on is that all this hoopla will help get your problems recognized. He broke the rules (the reason he did is IRRELEVANT) and was punished fittingly. The fact that the Devs are working to the point that they don't have time to post should be an encouraging though, and hopefully this theory will pay off with some exciting publish notes. I know I am being very optimistic about this situation without much of a foundation except hope and knowing that the Devs are working hard while realizing they are human and are having constraints imposed on them from the guys upstairs that obviously want this game to be like WoW.







I think a point you're missing is a MAJORITY of us do not want them working on the CU and anything we can do to prevent that is constructive to those goals.


Also, how can we trust the devs when they have now resorted to out and out being liars?

Message Edited by Liamo on 04-15-2005 08:22 PM



I support removing combat classes if keeping them in results in a "dumbed down" game
- I support Devs that know how to design a game
freedomwarrior
Fri Apr 15, 2005 5:32 pm
#278






Pseudopd wrote:





Ackire wrote:

Ya know, I use to know a gal named tigger in ultima online. I wonder if these 2 tiggs are the same. AS I remember she was a complete idiot too.







Now THAT was uncalled for , and kind of hurts yourposition on opinions. Lets be constructive and adult. Stay focused on the future. And actually help the situation, instead of name calling and scattershot blame.


AS needs all the positive it can get right now.


Baz Pseudopod







All im gonna say is im back and i enjoyed my 24 hours off. Still doesnt change my opinion im afraid. Sometimes truth hurts. Wonder if it is the same person though. Seems awful funny I got banned 10 minutes after I posted this.



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dMaster Armorsmithd
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Pseudopd
Fri Apr 15, 2005 6:29 pm
#279






ZionHalcyon wrote:





Alien-hating-Imperial wrote:

Why do you even bother posting this, Tiggs?


You fired the previous correspondent for TRYING to communicate with you and that poorly idiotic developer team







You still don't get it, do you?


Okram was fired for AN ABUSE OF POWER. Regardless of whatever the devs did, 2 wrongs don't make a right. To justify what Okram did is like justifying that it is ok to shoot a person who calls you a bad name. Okram had the gun and shot.



And to be honest, the behaviour of those defending him for this action is appalling to say the least.


Okram did a bang-up job, and I give him all the credit in the world. But that was with the old system. With the new one, he suffered from what most of you do - the inability to adapt. Sorry, but in seeing how things got with how Okram handled the CURB made me lose faith that he was the right person to lead us into the transition.


And because I voice these concerns, you all start labeling me as a dev butt kisser, you start putting words in my mouth and claiming I stand for things I do not stand for, all the while acting like infants and trying to rationalize your infantile temper tantrums.


Meanwhile, anyone who wants cooler heads to prevail gets labeled the same as I, and people rip into that person.


The mob mentality of this forum is SHAMEFUL.


I hope that in the end, cooler heads do prevail, and that we get someone more flexible in the coordinator position - someone who can see the big picture, and can go to the devs and make sure the players are heard, but also has enough balls to tell the AS community NO when needed to as well.


Seriously, the corrospondant job is supposed to be about improving a profession, and yet with the community here, it is turning into a babysitting job.


How very sad....






QFE


(always wanted to say that....)


Baz Pseudopod


Hoping for a peaceful productive solution...



Cafa
Sat Apr 16, 2005 12:09 am
#280






ZionHalcyon wrote:





Alien-hating-Imperial wrote:

Why do you even bother posting this, Tiggs?


You fired the previous correspondent for TRYING to communicate with you and that poorly idiotic developer team







You still don't get it, do you?


Okram was fired for AN ABUSE OF POWER. Regardless of whatever the devs did, 2 wrongs don't make a right. To justify what Okram did is like justifying that it is ok to shoot a person who calls you a bad name. Okram had the gun and shot.



And to be honest, the behaviour of those defending him for this action is appalling to say the least.


Okram did a bang-up job, and I give him all the credit in the world. But that was with the old system. With the new one, he suffered from what most of you do - the inability to adapt. Sorry, but in seeing how things got with how Okram handled the CURB made me lose faith that he was the right person to lead us into the transition.


And because I voice these concerns, you all start labeling me as a dev butt kisser, you start putting words in my mouth and claiming I stand for things I do not stand for, all the while acting like infants and trying to rationalize your infantile temper tantrums.


Meanwhile, anyone who wants cooler heads to prevail gets labeled the same as I, and people rip into that person.


The mob mentality of this forum is SHAMEFUL.


I hope that in the end, cooler heads do prevail, and that we get someone more flexible in the coordinator position - someone who can see the big picture, and can go to the devs and make sure the players are heard, but also has enough balls to tell the AS community NO when needed to as well.


Seriously, the corrospondant job is supposed to be about improving a profession, and yet with the community here, it is turning into a babysitting job.


How very sad....








If cooler heads prevailed we wouldn't have a COMPLETE duplication of EQ2 as the promised CU.


You're not perceived as noble, just a jerk. You denial of the major problems, the lies and deceit, the shoot from the hip changes that were supposedly planned a year ago and are now changing daily based upon the number of bagles someone has for breakfast is astounding.


Instead of fixes for combat, we now have a system that makes it IMPOSSIBLE to play the game with anyone in your community that isn't within 5 levels of you, and is completely worthless to your development if they're not within 3 levels of you.We have experimentation and crafting changes with zero explanation, feedback that would get most anyone I know fired, and utter contempt for the playerbase from the producers of this game.


Yep, you'll fit in fine.




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Cafa
Sat Apr 16, 2005 12:19 am
#281






The_Great_Destroyer wrote:





Cafa wrote:


If cooler heads prevailed we wouldn't have a COMPLETE duplication of EQ2 as the promised CU.


You're not perceived as noble, just a jerk. You denial of the major problems, the lies and deceit, the shoot from the hip changes that were supposedly planned a year ago and are now changing daily based upon the number of bagles someone has for breakfast is astounding.


Instead of fixes for combat, we now have a system that makes it IMPOSSIBLE to play the game with anyone in your community that isn't within 5 levels of you, and is completely worthless to your development if they're not within 3 levels of you.We have experimentation and crafting changes with zero explanation, feedback that would get most anyone I know fired, and utter contempt for the playerbase from the producers of this game.


Yep, you'll fit in fine.







The only denial going on is that all this hoopla will help get your problems recognized. He broke the rules (the reason he did is IRRELEVANT) and was punished fittingly. The fact that the Devs are working to the point that they don't have time to post should be an encouraging though, and hopefully this theory will pay off with some exciting publish notes. I know I am being very optimistic about this situation without much of a foundation except hope and knowing that the Devs are working hard while realizing they are human and are having constraints imposed on them from the guys upstairs that obviously want this game to be like WoW.






While I agree with you, lemme have my fun promoting Tav! I think it would be great for a Non-AS to be the new corr, and you can go back to whipping me in our other channel.



- Strength In Numbers - Loyal Subjects of the Empire
Asia Brothers Industries - Asia Hall SiN CiTY, Dantooine (Offers Vendor at -4703 -1404)
A player bodyguard can't protect you either, something agroes you, you are dead. The
only difference between a pet and the person, is you pay the person to stand there
and watch you die. -- Straker Atrella

RaistlinVII
Sat Apr 16, 2005 12:35 am
#282

Everyone nominate me


I've never crafted a set of armor but I am a Doctor who is also getting shafted and I am quitting when this CFU goes live, so I bring the same fight to the table
that the last Corr did. Go ahead and ban me SOE, this pos your pushing into live isn't anything I want to be a part of anyway. I for one wanted THIS game fixed
and balanced, not a cheap copy of other games' systems implemented. And since I don't see that happening, my two accounts will be gone come May 5th
anyway, so what's the difference.



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Egeto
Sat Apr 16, 2005 12:35 am
#283






Kryonastus wrote:

Wow, you devs sicken me.

You just dont want to hear that your precious CU sucks.


The armorsmith correspondant was one of the only correspondants I ever saw in here that ever did their job. Whoever let that Jedi correspondant on should be fired, as with most of the other ones.


I just really want to say how much I think you guys suck right now, but instead, Ill say this


Im very disappointed in this choice, if you wanted lackeys you should have included that in the job description.





You should read the Chef Correspondent. He's a deer in headlights. Not only will he not fight for the continued vialibility of the chef profession....there are 3-4 other chefsdoing his job testing, for him.


I find it quite convenient that some of the Corres. had their 6 month retirement parties right when the CU was at it's most critical point. All the new Corres. were brought in to have no real power and/or say in how their profession was being treated.






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Seru1
Sat Apr 16, 2005 12:52 am
#284

!!! I can't believe what happened here with community correspondents!!!!

-> SOE look at WoW, you have so much to learn - otherwise you'll going down and the devs with you!


I nominate Okram2k again -)
Gleemonkey
Sat Apr 16, 2005 9:35 am
#285



Liamo wrote:
Update: the Devs removed the CU poll on the "IN Testing-Dev" forum.
It's now a generic, "Would you recommend SWG to your friends".
Right now, 76% say no. This is reflecting the upcoming CFU, I'm sure BUT they will use this as an excuse to say "our polls show 76% of the people wouldn't recommend SWG to a friend. that shows we need to do something to change that and the CFU is just the thing."
No matter how we vote on that poll, they will spin it.
I can't currently get into TC so is that poll still there and have they changed ot to ask if we like the CFU or is it still only combat orientated?








TEH DEVS ARE TURNING SWG INTO EVERSTARWOWQUEST!
Liamo
Sat Apr 16, 2005 12:39 pm
#286

Update: the Devs removed the CU poll on the "IN Testing-Dev" forum.


It's now a generic, "Would you recommend SWG to your friends".

Right now, 76% say no. This is reflecting the upcoming CFU, I'm sure BUT they will use this as an excuse to say "our polls show 76% of the people wouldn't recommend SWG to a friend. that shows we need to do something to change that and the CFU is just the thing."


No matter how we vote on that poll, they will spin it.


I can't currently get into TC so is that poll still there and have they changed ot to ask if we like the CFU or is it still only combat orientated?



I support removing combat classes if keeping them in results in a "dumbed down" game
- I support Devs that know how to design a game
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