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Thread: Complete CU AS schematics updated April 16th

NiBorg
Tue Apr 12, 2005 10:15 pm
#14






AndJusticeForAll wrote:

bah, Ive already bought almost all thethe best new resources on my server.... (except for that damned naboo bristley and of course the wookie woods)got my bases covered now.... i just want to be able to experiment my stuff, regardless of resources.






you and me both. i still cant understand the drastic increase in resource usage.
Quizz
Tue Apr 12, 2005 10:18 pm
#15

can someone verify this list...dont know if they made some changes to the resources needed. but this list is slightly different then Monroe's list.



Quizz

4 ACCOUNTS cancelled
NiBorg
Tue Apr 12, 2005 10:48 pm
#16

I can take screenshots ifneeded, which schematics are different?
Quizz
Wed Apr 13, 2005 1:26 am
#17







NiBorg wrote:

I can take screenshots ifneeded, which schematics are different?






no, no...i was just wondering ifu made a mistake or they changed the resources again on us.. cause the one posted earlierby monroe is different then what u have posted.



This what he had:


Layers:

Acid Layer
20 Non Ferrous Metal

12 Polymer

10 Crystalline Gemstone

14 Malab Siliclastic Ore

Kinetic Layer
20 Non Ferrous Metal

12 Polymer

10 Amorphous Gemstone

14 Chromite Carbonite Ore


Energy Protection Layer
20 ferrous metal
12 polymer
10 plexite amorphous gemstone*
14 alantium carbonate ore*


Heat Protection Layer
20 ferrous metal
12 polymer
10 Kerol Fire-gem Crystalline gemstone*
14 frasium carbonate ore*


Cold Layer
20 Non Ferrous Metal

12 Polymer

10 Laboi Mineral Crystal**

14 Malab Siliclastic Ore*

Electric Layer
20 Non Ferrous Metal

12 Polymer

10 Bal'ta'ran Crystal Amorphous Gemstone*

14 Ardanium Siliclastic Ore*


Advanced Armor Layer Primus

25 Neutronium Steel
14 Gravitonic Fiberplast
14 Polymer
16 Vintrium Extrusive Ore
12 Perovskitic Aluminum

Advanced Armor Layer Secundas
25 Thallium Copper
14 Gravitonic Fiberplast
14 Polymer
16 Chronamite Extrusive Ore
12 Perovskitic Aluminum


Message Edited by Quizz on 04-13-2005 01:29 AM

Message Edited by Quizz on 04-13-2005 01:29 AM



Quizz

4 ACCOUNTS cancelled
Rinviero
Wed Apr 13, 2005 2:05 am
#18






Quizz wrote:







NiBorg wrote:

I can take screenshots ifneeded, which schematics are different?






no, no...i was just wondering ifu made a mistake or they changed the resources again on us.. cause the one posted earlierby monroe is different then what u have posted.



This what he had:


Layers:

Acid Layer
20 Non Ferrous Metal

12 Polymer

10 Crystalline Gemstone

14 Malab Siliclastic Ore

Kinetic Layer
20 Non Ferrous Metal

12 Polymer

10 Amorphous Gemstone

14 Chromite Carbonite Ore


Energy Protection Layer
20 ferrous metal
12 polymer
10 plexite amorphous gemstone*
14 alantium carbonate ore*


Heat Protection Layer
20 ferrous metal
12 polymer
10 Kerol Fire-gem Crystalline gemstone*
14 frasium carbonate ore*


Cold Layer
20 Non Ferrous Metal

12 Polymer

10 Laboi Mineral Crystal**

14 Malab Siliclastic Ore*

Electric Layer
20 Non Ferrous Metal

12 Polymer

10 Bal'ta'ran Crystal Amorphous Gemstone*

14 Ardanium Siliclastic Ore*


Advanced Armor Layer Primus

25 Neutronium Steel
14 Gravitonic Fiberplast
14 Polymer
16 Vintrium Extrusive Ore
12 Perovskitic Aluminum

Advanced Armor Layer Secundas
25 Thallium Copper
14 Gravitonic Fiberplast
14 Polymer
16 Chronamite Extrusive Ore
12 Perovskitic Aluminum


Message Edited by Quizz on 04-13-2005 01:29 AM


Message Edited by Quizz on 04-13-2005 01:29 AM





Umm, that seems identical to the top post anyway?

Akihi
Wed Apr 13, 2005 2:21 am
#19

I hate to be negative, but WoW is looking pretty good right now. The only thing that kept me in this game was my AS and with this I'm going to have to start all over again. Sorry SOE, you All fu$#ed up again, cant seem to do anything right...........


$$Enriche Enoulle$$ **DMG-I**
12PT Armorsmith
Sanitarium mall Dant 1068 1683
Jediknight2k1
Wed Apr 13, 2005 5:26 am
#20






Akihi wrote:

I hate to be negative, but WoW is looking pretty good right now. The only thing that kept me in this game was my AS and with this I'm going to have to start all over again. Sorry SOE, you All fu$#ed up again, cant seem to do anything right...........


$$Enriche Enoulle$$ **DMG-I**
12PT Armorsmith
Sanitarium mall Dant 1068 1683






If this goes through to live the chances are I'll cancel my AS and play my other account more.





Eomer

Reb Rivendale Crusaders

Elder Jedi & Alliance Ace Pilot

Nothing Got Enhanced(but everything got nerfed)


PvPing untill there is something else to do.

HelMAS
Wed Apr 13, 2005 5:29 am
#21

*CRY* *CRY* *CRY*


Thanks so much for posting these

I really appreciate it, as do so many others


I was wondering if you or someone could answer a question for me please?

I noticed that you included this bit of info "But PSG's recharge rate is OQ/CD"

I'm curious what resource stats are now being used to determine how good armor is?
It used to always be OQ, SR, & Mall with some UT mainly.



As for my thoughts on these new AS changes


I Hate Them With A Passion!!!


I've been collecting and holding on to some specific rare resources so that at any given time I can use the very best resources ever to make a special custom suit of armor if I and/or a client wished it (and had the funds for it of course) for almost 2 years now.
To get and maintain these resources, I've spent hours everyday as well as Millions of credits buying them and even more paying the main. feefor the harvs I've been using to get them.


SWG has made many changes that have seriously made me feel like I've wasted many hours/days/weeks of my life before by making a specific type of item useless or not as good as it was. Or time grinding and truly learning how to use a profession and all of its abilities/features the best I could and then having the prof. seriously changed for the worse. Or even how I've spent days trying to track and hunt down a specific very large creature that drops pearls, tissues, and occasionally extraordinary weapons/items that are now everywhere to the point I often don't want to see one;and if I had any idea these creatures would soon be swarming Tat instead of nearly impossible to ever find, I wouldn't have spent days/weeks of my life trying to find them many months before.

But then again I have many small grudges over these types of issues (Multi-Drop RIS Items, powerful CH pets that at one point I could use, grinding multiple professions I had no desire to ever ever tryjust so I could become a Jedi, and Unlimited use DOT Weapons to name a few)


But to change the resources I need to make the best possible armor I can so I could be one of the best Master Armorsmiths on my server

So that an Armorsmith that has been only playing for a month or two now has as good a chance to make armor as good as mine because the resources I had are now basically worthless and the ones I now need are the same resources the newb armorsmith probably already has
Is by far the worst change SOE/SWG/Devs have ever done
As it now seems that I've basically wasted almost 2 YEARS of my life and has me feeling...
Hmm the best way to phrase this without using profanity would be???
Bent over taking it in the ... without any KY is prob one way of not using any profanity
But I'll go with Up the Creek of Class 6 rapids without a paddle, life vest, or raft for that matter and not a person to help in sight.


Akihi
Wed Apr 13, 2005 5:41 am
#22






HelMAS wrote:

*CRY* *CRY* *CRY*


Thanks so much for posting these

I really appreciate it, as do so many others


I was wondering if you or someone could answer a question for me please?

I noticed that you included this bit of info "But PSG's recharge rate is OQ/CD"

I'm curious what resource stats are now being used to determine how good armor is?
It used to always be OQ, SR, & Mall with some UT mainly.



As for my thoughts on these new AS changes


I Hate Them With A Passion!!!


I've been collecting and holding on to some specific rare resources so that at any given time I can use the very best resources ever to make a special custom suit of armor if I and/or a client wished it (and had the funds for it of course) for almost 2 years now.
To get and maintain these resources, I've spent hours everyday as well as Millions of credits buying them and even more paying the main. feefor the harvs I've been using to get them.


SWG has made many changes that have seriously made me feel like I've wasted many hours/days/weeks of my life before by making a specific type of item useless or not as good as it was. Or time grinding and truly learning how to use a profession and all of its abilities/features the best I could and then having the prof. seriously changed for the worse. Or even how I've spent days trying to track and hunt down a specific very large creature that drops pearls, tissues, and occasionally extraordinary weapons/items that are now everywhere to the point I often don't want to see one;and if I had any idea these creatures would soon be swarming Tat instead of nearly impossible to ever find, I wouldn't have spent days/weeks of my life trying to find them many months before.

But then again I have many small grudges over these types of issues (Multi-Drop RIS Items, powerful CH pets that at one point I could use, grinding multiple professions I had no desire to ever ever tryjust so I could become a Jedi, and Unlimited use DOT Weapons to name a few)


But to change the resources I need to make the best possible armor I can so I could be one of the best Master Armorsmiths on my server

So that an Armorsmith that has been only playing for a month or two now has as good a chance to make armor as good as mine because the resources I had are now basically worthless and the ones I now need are the same resources the newb armorsmith probably already has
Is by far the worst change SOE/SWG/Devs have ever done
As it now seems that I've basically wasted almost 2 YEARS of my life and has me feeling...
Hmm the best way to phrase this without using profanity would be???
Bent over taking it in the ... without any KY is prob one way of not using any profanity
But I'll go with Up the Creek of Class 6 rapids without a paddle, life vest, or raft for that matter and not a person to help in sight.







I totally feel you. Being a crafter is not the most fun of proffesions and the reason why alot of us do it is because of the challenge of being one of the best in our server, but this is ridiculous, there is no reason why SOE had to change the OQ/SR combination, WHY!!!??? I have no idea, they are pretty much saying SCREW YOU ALL!! to all of us AS that have been doing this since day one, and have used that time to gather and buy resources, hunt, spend weeks of time surveying, posting on SWGCRAFT and for what?? so that SOE can do whatever they want without thinking of the consumer, I'm really upset. I dont have the 3hrs a day like most of you all have. I go to school full-time and have been accumulating all my AS stuff for a long time now. Like I said, WoW is by far the best Game out there, SOE I really hope you guys read these fourms, cause you are all about to get fired after this CU goes live if you continue with what you have... hopeI said it all...



$$Enriche Enoulle$$ **DMG-I**
12PT Armorsmith/R.I.S
Sanitarium mall Dant 1068 1683


Schlappi
Wed Apr 13, 2005 6:20 am
#23



tnx for good posting !


Just a qestion :



Advanced Armor Layer Primus + kin/ener - stun/acid/blast
25 neutronium steel
14 polymer
14 gravatonic fiberplast
16 vintrium extrusive ore
12 perovskitic aluminum


I see here is stun and blastresist, maybe it is just a typo and mean -electrical/cold/heat ? So fair i saw stun and blast resist will be completely removed in CU.

same for:


Advanced Armor Layer Tertius + blast/elec - heat/cold/ener
25 conductive borcarbitic copper
14 polymer
14 gravatonic fiberplast
16 dylinium intrusive ore
12 perovskitic aluminum


I think it must be +acid/electr.


tnank you for advise

Hohiro

RdN Master Armorsmith

Chilastra

Message Edited by Schlappi on 04-13-2005 09:46 AM

UmmonPrime
Wed Apr 13, 2005 6:48 am
#24

Naboo Bristley? What are they thinking? They stick over half the professions in this group and give us some stupid resource type that barely anyone has ever harvested?

Well if they wanted to control how much advanced armor was out there, that was a good way to do it....



Elood- Trader - Retired AS/SW

Elood'- Jedi- I know, I suck. Bite me

Dark Sword, Naboo 6932 2054 Loots


JangoFett100
Wed Apr 13, 2005 6:57 am
#25






UmmonPrime wrote:

Naboo Bristley? What are they thinking? They stick over half the professions in this group and give us some stupid resource type that barely anyone has ever harvested?

Well if they wanted to control how much advanced armor was out there, that was a good way to do it....







This was my 1st thought. I was initially under the impression that almost nothing dropped naboo bristley. But it turns out there are several creatures in the 20 - 30 CL range that drop this.


So the question is: What's worse, leaving this in as a requirement, or taking it out at the last minute, after having everyone spend tons of time/credits gathering it to get ready? The usage is too high to use resource kits for.




Qum - Retired Armorsmith
Alog - Grumpy Fish

UmmonPrime
Wed Apr 13, 2005 7:12 am
#26






JangoFett100 wrote:





UmmonPrime wrote:

Naboo Bristley? What are they thinking? They stick over half the professions in this group and give us some stupid resource type that barely anyone has ever harvested?

Well if they wanted to control how much advanced armor was out there, that was a good way to do it....







This was my 1st thought. I was initially under the impression that almost nothing dropped naboo bristley. But it turns out there are several creatures in the 20 - 30 CL range that drop this.


So the question is: What's worse, leaving this in as a requirement, or taking it out at the last minute, after having everyone spend tons of time/credits gathering it to get ready? The usage is too high to use resource kits for.





Our current spawn of Bristley on Naboo is real real bad. I'd rather not make it than use what is in spawn.




Elood- Trader - Retired AS/SW

Elood'- Jedi- I know, I suck. Bite me

Dark Sword, Naboo 6932 2054 Loots


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