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Thread: Quad Energy Layered Assault

WittyNewt
Mon Oct 10, 2005 10:13 am
#14

Most of my BH orders are for energy layered armor as well, customer is king


I normally convince a few to go with primus instead. A BH armor build with primus teamed with a good psg makes for a very decent all round pvp suit.






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JediSpam
Mon Oct 10, 2005 9:58 pm
#15

Ifinally got my first customer that wanted Quad-Kinetic BH Armor last night. LOL

Out of 10 orders for BH, I think my ratio islike7 Energy Layered,1 Primus Layered,2 normal capped.


I agreeit's pointless.

If the person wants to be a successful BH, they're gonna have to pick up another non-BH profession anyway. Why they don't pick upa Recon/Battle certed professions baffles me.



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QuarEstee
Tue Oct 11, 2005 5:06 am
#16

I have a tough time imagining a BH I know who isn't also a combat medic (battle), carbineer (battle) or pistoleer (recon).

The sheer stupidity of certing BHs to wear armor suited to kinetic damage and professions like rifleman (don't know many rangers who aren't riflemen these days) to wear armor for energy damage is just astounding. I guess it's just another example of how "balanced" our combat system is now ... "Let's figure out the most typical type of damage a profession will face, and then require them to wear the armor that is worst suited for the task ... toss in some layers to compensate, and we have everyone wearing armor with equal stats!"




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HawtubJawkuzzi
Wed Oct 12, 2005 2:01 pm
#17

i have so many BH's asking me to make them quad energy layered assault and i end up convining most of them that if i primus layer it, the outcome will be much better... and the ones that take that route are always very happy with the final product....



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Stoehovve
Wed Oct 12, 2005 2:38 pm
#18






HawtubJawkuzzi wrote:
i have so many BH's asking me to make them quad energy layered assault and i end up convining most of them that if i primus layer it, the outcome will be much better... and the ones that take that route are always very happy with the final product....






What is the highest possible stat one can get for the energy protection, I've capped the special at 6k, have 5.9k or 6k for kinetic, but I can only get 6.1k or so for energy.




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pykescylla
Wed Oct 12, 2005 3:07 pm
#19

The common caps are here. You're probably not going to be able to cap layers. Unlike cores, it takes near perfect resources (and the musician buff).



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Wed Oct 12, 2005 8:12 pm
#20

I actually did a primus energy combo 3:1. It turned out assault that was 7111/5606 and makes for a nice well rounded assault suit, usable for PVE and PVP.



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Bazik
Wed Oct 12, 2005 9:29 pm
#21



I hunt in Battlesincethe BH armor is worthless for its role.
ButI agree with Adack...I made my crafted BH armor 2x en 2x primus. I findits the best way to tune Assault for overall effectiveness.




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Stoehovve
Thu Oct 13, 2005 6:08 am
#22






pykescylla wrote:
The common caps are here. You're probably not going to be able to cap layers. Unlike cores, it takes near perfect resources (and the musician buff).




cool, so I'm pretty close to capping the assault armour then... cool.. thanks.




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ChemicalBrother
Thu Oct 13, 2005 7:11 am
#23

I'll clock in for the Bounty Hunters here......


kinetic layered assault 8200K 3800E 6000B
primus layered assault 7600K 5600E 5400B
energy layered assault 5800K 6200E 6000B (for all those bounty hunter armor folks who want to hunt jedi in it)



That comes from one of the stickies is your forums, if any BH's flash thru here to take a quick glance, they get mystified & probably repost the info on the BH forums for all the others that don't like reading outside of our forums. It's sad, but they are probably figureing that they can get 2 sets of Assault armor, PvP 4EL type & PvE kinetic layered type. Even tho most of us are through smacking around mobs at this point this still works for looting armor segs & cores off from high end mobs & smacking up Nightisters & Auukuans for the loots. The energy layered Assault is a known sad way to go, but Composite, Mandalorian& BH are very well liked armors so since they don't know what they are doing wrong they just go with it. You AS's laugh & make it for them, some of you try to convince them out of it speaking in a language that the BH doesn't understand, not enough Jedi's & Ubers Proton Carbs thrown into the lecture. If they are happy with the armor, it's all good. If they beat most of the Jedi they ever face in this Assault turned crappy Battle armor, they must be the best PvP'ers on the server, image that guy would p0wn every 1& crash the server everytime they got on with their MeGA-Ubarness if they were wearing capped Recon.



I mastered Rifles & get to have sweet mitigations in Recon armor. I still wear my BH & Composites cause I like how they look too, but I know from what this Armorsmith told me, that Assault is for kinetic damage & Recon is for energy, one will not protect the opposite damage better than the other. Now I got to deal with cool looking Ubese armors that don't reach the same health caps as 7 piece armors. Ha ha, guess that I haven't completely wised up yet. But I do look better than thatLando Calrissian looking dude over there....Is the armor system in this game screwed or what?



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Stoehovve
Thu Oct 13, 2005 7:35 am
#24

needs a bit more work, yes :>




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WittyNewt
Thu Oct 13, 2005 8:53 am
#25






ChemicalBrother wrote:

I'll clock in for the Bounty Hunters here......


kinetic layered assault 8200K 3800E 6000B
primus layered assault 7600K 5600E 5400B
energy layered assault 5800K 6200E 6000B (for all those bounty hunter armor folks who want to hunt jedi in it)



That comes from one of the stickies is your forums, if any BH's flash thru here to take a quick glance, they get mystified & probably repost the info on the BH forums for all the others that don't like reading outside of our forums. It's sad, but they are probably figureing that they can get 2 sets of Assault armor, PvP 4EL type & PvE kinetic layered type. Even tho most of us are through smacking around mobs at this point this still works for looting armor segs & cores off from high end mobs & smacking up Nightisters & Auukuans for the loots. The energy layered Assault is a known sad way to go, but Composite, Mandalorian& BH are very well liked armors so since they don't know what they are doing wrong they just go with it. You AS's laugh & make it for them, some of you try to convince them out of it speaking in a language that the BH doesn't understand, not enough Jedi's & Ubers Proton Carbs thrown into the lecture. If they are happy with the armor, it's all good. If they beat most of the Jedi they ever face in this Assault turned crappy Battle armor, they must be the best PvP'ers on the server, image that guy would p0wn every 1& crash the server everytime they got on with their MeGA-Ubarness if they were wearing capped Recon.



I mastered Rifles & get to have sweet mitigations in Recon armor. I still wear my BH & Composites cause I like how they look too, but I know from what this Armorsmith told me, that Assault is for kinetic damage & Recon is for energy, one will not protect the opposite damage better than the other. Now I got to deal with cool looking Ubese armors that don't reach the same health caps as 7 piece armors. Ha ha, guess that I haven't completely wised up yet. But I do look better than thatLando Calrissian looking dude over there....Is the armor system in this game screwed or what?






Lol, well I wrote that list of caps and if assault armor is your only certification and you want to fight jedi then energy layered is the best choice.


Read that comment as "If out must hunt jedi in Assault then go for this option" and NOT"if you want to hunt jedi this is the best armor choice out of all that is out there" if that makes sense.


That post also lists the caps on battle and recon, after all its an armor caps thread


I personally think if you are a BH hunting jedi then you should make it your business to understand your weapons and armor and get the best you can to do the job in hand.


Frankly, you might look cool in your BH armor suit when you start the fight. However,the fact that you have thrown away upto 8% protection compared with going with that awful looking tantel suit with 8100+ and end up face down in the dirt with the jedi laughing at you - now that isn't a cool outcome


Still a healing template is more important nowadays than a few extra points of armor protection. An MCM/BH or MD/BH can do quite nicely with standard battle which afterall is exactly what energy layered assault turns out like.


I try many times to help my customers in a language I think they will understand, sometims it difficult when all you get back is leet speak



Offer my winnings to the resource vendor at:

ZK Combat Gear - 800m from Threed Starport on Naboo, waypoint -4643 3380

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Moeru - The all new SOE harvesting template MBH, MRifles Pistols 0404. (Goodbye Master Ranger until the revamp)

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Click for health enhancer faq and Click for health armor examples


WittyNewt
Thu Oct 13, 2005 9:00 am
#26

I have updated the caps guide to make it clearer what is best for what let me know if I need to add anything more here



Offer my winnings to the resource vendor at:

ZK Combat Gear - 800m from Threed Starport on Naboo, waypoint -4643 3380

Kreen - Armorsmith+2, Artisan, Merchant, Master Carbineer. RIS Certified
Moeru - The all new SOE harvesting template MBH, MRifles Pistols 0404. (Goodbye Master Ranger until the revamp)

Click for armor colour charts and Click for armor style pictures
Click for health enhancer faq and Click for health armor examples


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