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Thread: my 2 cents
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cmreeves
Sat Aug 06, 2005 10:11 am
#14
Jedi,
What do you guys thinks about the Dev's removing exp loss? I feel that with Blixtev and the rest of the Dev's setting BH's up with these new high level NPC spawns it is only going to get worst for Jedi. I feel this is only the beginning of nerfs for Jedi. What I do not understand is why the Dev's fix the major bugs with Jedi and up LS damage,,new specials and all, then decide to start nerfing our professsions down to nothing. If you think it about they are going to have to make BH alot more stronger to be able to take down these high level NPC marks. I have heard of some of these NPC's having at least 45-60k Ham. I see a change coming for BH considering they can only solo this mark alone with no help. That tells me right there, the Dev's are going to have to balance BH again and make them stronger. As they beef up their profession, they weaken Jedi. I am sure alot ofJedi would be okay with this if the Dev's removed the exp loss. It is too much risk vs reward. We do not benifit anything for sending a BH to the cloner. The BH's arecrying now, because they cannot solo these high level marks. The Dev's are smart because all they want to do is keep feeding this hatred between Jedi and BH. Some folks make not agree with me on this, but from a business standpoint it is smart. Think a minute that sounds like continous content in my opinion. As for Jedi we are bored, no FRS at all. Where isour content and good loot tables. There is onlyso much PVP you can do in Theed. It seems like BH is going to be the toughest profession in the game here pretty soon. We have allseen the Dev's when they go through these cycles. If they are going to make the BH's be able to solo thier missions, how are jedi going to compete with BH's to avoid being ganked. I am sure that alot of you would say it is predicated on your template and how you PVP. I agree with that to an extent, but if the BH already the upperhand to begin with, there is problem there.
Remove exp loss then everyone can enjoy more without anything to lose. Can you imagine if they do that, there would be continous content, Jedi and BH's everywhere. That would be sweet in my opinion.
Message Edited by cmreeves on 08-06-2005 10:14 AM
MathuCopon
Sat Aug 06, 2005 10:51 am
#16
Fix the GCW, the real part of the game and the reason I bought it.
Satdaten
Sat Aug 06, 2005 2:17 pm
#17
too bad the ch revamp went over about as well as the smuggler revamp. and speaking of smugglers they are SOOO happy they have to become a mbh to get their slicing components or buy them for at least 100k on the trade forums. go Devs!
but yes their are some other professions that need some attention, and smuggler and ch are not done either. ch still need to be able to convert their old pets to this new system, and smugglers need to be able to get their loot without buying it. cuz it doesnt drop enough from the old stuff, but its flying off the npc bounties. i say give ch a way to convert thier old pets and smugglers some missions to get their loot, and then they *may* be ok. then we still need to revamp SL, rangers, commando, and i'm sure other balancing issues (the kd recovery bug maybe?).
i think the problem with revamping the old system with the CU in the first place was that this balancing was never internally tested enough. and now they cant rapidly change and balance things. they also by never opening the testing to the public allowed us to come up with the inherent strategies we now have. no dev team will ever be able to predict what the masses will find. i dont think they thought of the food stacking, the offer ride spam, etc. and now they try to fix it without seeing the consequences of teh action on other parts of the game. that's the inherent risk with radical changes to a game such as SWG.
i pity the dev team. their haste will destroy us all.
but yes their are some other professions that need some attention, and smuggler and ch are not done either. ch still need to be able to convert their old pets to this new system, and smugglers need to be able to get their loot without buying it. cuz it doesnt drop enough from the old stuff, but its flying off the npc bounties. i say give ch a way to convert thier old pets and smugglers some missions to get their loot, and then they *may* be ok. then we still need to revamp SL, rangers, commando, and i'm sure other balancing issues (the kd recovery bug maybe?).
i think the problem with revamping the old system with the CU in the first place was that this balancing was never internally tested enough. and now they cant rapidly change and balance things. they also by never opening the testing to the public allowed us to come up with the inherent strategies we now have. no dev team will ever be able to predict what the masses will find. i dont think they thought of the food stacking, the offer ride spam, etc. and now they try to fix it without seeing the consequences of teh action on other parts of the game. that's the inherent risk with radical changes to a game such as SWG.
i pity the dev team. their haste will destroy us all.
Staveeno
Sat Aug 06, 2005 3:04 pm
#18
If it only cost a penny for your thoughts, but people put their 2 cents worth, Where are the extra pennies going?
yurylightmist
Sat Aug 06, 2005 4:24 pm
#20
i agree, xp loss removal would make everyone happy. That way when you die you wont really feel the hate cuz you justclone and go back.
Kylrathin
Sat Aug 06, 2005 4:28 pm
#21
"I personally would rather see more attention paid to the borked non-alpha classes than us. In game, I hear too much hate about how this game is focusing solely on Jedi. I'm beside myself with happiness that Creature Handlers got a bit of love. Let's see them carry this focus to other broken profs.
And as for BH scoring nice loot, I say "Enjoy it." We've gotten TONS of love lately. No more group viz. No more names on the terminal. Both of these are HUGE. You had to see a bump up for BH NPC missions because of this, didn't you?
Is the Jedi profession as a whole broken? You bet. Do we need our profession fixed? Of course. Do other professions deserve to be looked at and fixed? Absolutely! Let's remember this, and in the meantime grind in your non-viz groups and get your full template before the BH's get sick of the new NPC loot. The devs won't fix us before that happens, I'd wager.
my 2 creds."
Arcturius, I could not possibly agree more with everything you said. You are 100% correct. Fix the other professions, congratulations to the bounty hunters for their new and improved loots, and we've gotten plenty of attention lately. Due to the incessant whining of some of our less mature members, as well as less mature members of other professions whining on our behalf, not all of the attention has been positive. If we can just shut up long enough to allow other professions to get fixed, the devs may realize we can once again be ready to be that alpha class we're supposed to have been.
And as for BH scoring nice loot, I say "Enjoy it." We've gotten TONS of love lately. No more group viz. No more names on the terminal. Both of these are HUGE. You had to see a bump up for BH NPC missions because of this, didn't you?
Is the Jedi profession as a whole broken? You bet. Do we need our profession fixed? Of course. Do other professions deserve to be looked at and fixed? Absolutely! Let's remember this, and in the meantime grind in your non-viz groups and get your full template before the BH's get sick of the new NPC loot. The devs won't fix us before that happens, I'd wager.
my 2 creds."
Arcturius, I could not possibly agree more with everything you said. You are 100% correct. Fix the other professions, congratulations to the bounty hunters for their new and improved loots, and we've gotten plenty of attention lately. Due to the incessant whining of some of our less mature members, as well as less mature members of other professions whining on our behalf, not all of the attention has been positive. If we can just shut up long enough to allow other professions to get fixed, the devs may realize we can once again be ready to be that alpha class we're supposed to have been.
kudil
Sat Aug 06, 2005 4:36 pm
#22
I really want to see Rangers and Commando's get some love. For combat professions i feel so sorry for them. But i dont see its fair that some professions have to wait such a long time for tender care because the Devs think another profession needs a hugh overhaul. I would like to see tiny fixes over time to all they can do in the time they have to fix the game.
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