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Thread: my 2 cents

erroroccured
Tue Aug 19, 2003 5:32 am
#1

I read on another post, the Devs should give some reason or vision for the CH. I completly agree with this.


I hate to say this, but I like the idea holocron mentioned as far as changing some of the pets around.


Don't get me wrong I believe the pets armor should not be tampered with at this time, but if they are going to mess with Pets, then change an arm2 cl lvl or change stats of other animals to reflect more damage less armor.


Also, I believe this was bad timing on the Devs part. They should of not mentioned taking away armor rating right now. The Ch field has continually been slapped in the face with nerf after nerf not knowing what exp you made the other day will help you tommorow. If they want to make changes as such to armor wait and anounce it when you change everything else around. Let the Ch users have some time to breath and we can work together on being constructive towards making this a better game. Instead of just quitting and you SOE loosing money.


Why I say this is because, I am a swordsman, I would rather have a arm2 class pet, i could care less about the damage he does. ie my tank


Some play the field as a true Ch. They might want on tank but another pet with terrible armor but massive damage.


I think this is a good approach and resolution to the game.


Yes they do need to increase baby rates, up the CL to 100 for master,maybe add an chMission terminal where you get cash and exp for taming certain creatures.At least you would know where they are at instead of wandering aimlessly around looking for babies. I dont know but tand make the fields a little more desirable for the long haulers. Buth what I said above is not new.


My suggestion to you Holocron is answer some of these gripes before enraging the community on changing everyones pets. It is not like we can just go get another pet and transform our battle strategy we now have to wait several days for the new unknown tank pet to grow.


So what do you say, can we work together or does the sentiment of the boards go unheard and our voice is mute???


Thanks



Ch




Thesoldier
Sun Sep 14, 2003 8:47 pm
#2

Nerf us you say.
All the Developers do is treat our class as if we were some dog on the street for the longest time, and when we finally get fixed, we are supposedly going to be thrown back into the street because of a few people who complain.


Here is my own experience with with PVP as a Wookie Commando with FT IV and a FT that does about a max of 1070 dmg.


1. People dont realize there isa simple cure for Flame DOT, ethier run to water, or get DBed and clone. For pets, just store them.


2. Commandos have a 9 second delay between specials even at FT IV, that gives you guys plenty of time to find a BH to spam us with eye shot, or to find someone to KD us and dizzy.


3. From a distance we dont have a chance against a BH with Carbine, or a sharpshooter.


4. Our heavy weapons except the HBPC are useless in PVP. The HBPC actually gives a fair amount of wounds to secondary stats (Str, Cons, Quick, stam, etc..)


5. The TEF after a DB stinks cause after im kind enough to DB an enemy I killed, he clones and just runs right up to me and spams me with mind shot or KD.


Here are my own opnions.


1. The Flame Thrower should be doing the damage its done. I dont care what they say, if you are stupid enough to rush within 20m's of us, you deserved to be burned Beyond all recognition.


2. The Acid rifle should be just as powerful as the FT, I would imgaine someone being an un armored target getting doused with liquid acid would be in extreme great pain from thier skin, bones, and organs getting burned away by acid.


3. DONT FIX WHAT THE PVPer's WANT, FIX WHAT JOE SCHOME WANTS. On every server, the PVPers do not make the game, its the every day player who does. Its the guy who wants to hunt without getting monsters that warp at him from 64m away. Its the weapon maker whos sick of you messing up his resources, its the brawler who wants you to refix KD, etc... etc.. etc..


4. For godsakes, fix the rocket launcher, I would imagine that if you launched a rocket at an ATST it would do some damage, I mean the ewoks killed one with a coupla logs, why cant we doit with a rocket


5. BH this, BH that. BH's do not make the game go round. Its the weapon smiths, the chef's, the armorsmiths, the medics, the doctors, etc...every player contributes his role to the game. Yes I know almost every player ethier wants to be darth vadar orBobaFett, but it just isnt going to happen.


6. We are just fine except for the following problems IMHO:


A: Our class titles make no sense
B: Our LP has no specials
C: Our HW are worthless to Turrents and ATST's
D: Our FT causes an enemy to switch from Ranged attack to Meele attack
E: The prerequsite for unarmed is worthless











Seriously you guys, just because of a few players who reign supreme any more in PVP, you want to bring us right back down to where we started.


Thats just my 2 cents.






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Daxin Aba
Bounty Hunter for hire
JBMat
Mon Oct 13, 2003 4:59 am
#3

The FSS slot has to be available to anyone, regardless of profession or faction. If not, who is gonna be anything but what the first person to open the FSS slot is?


Badges - may count a little, but as some people can't do the second quest (true neutrals won't). And as shooting seems to be the main requirement for others, they can't count for much, as many professions don't have a combat orientation.


XP - total, maybe. Apprentice XP - saw something that said AXP was part of the equation.


Master of all - Nah, unless it goes for the XP total. Stupid idea in fact, besides, who wants to be a master of some of these jobs?


Holocrons - nope, too easy to get, or impossible to get for some, depending on the ones you are talking about, so they can't count for much.


Crystals - puh-lease... freaking lumps are dropping these, how rare can they be?


Quests - again, some people can't do em...


Okie doke, what's that leave ? How about luck?


You made a character, it either was or wasn't force sensitive, and at some point, by doing a large number of mundane, or a smaller number of special, tasks, the slot will open... or it won't as you ain't got one.


Personally, I could care less if I have a slot or not, would be nice, but I am not gonna devote countless hours to chasing it, it will happen or it won't.


But I want the rest of y'all to keep posting your insane theories and 'odd things' that ya find...nobles on the beach be real, they been there forever... I need the laffs


JB


DayWalkerRori
Mon Oct 13, 2003 5:01 am
#4

And it will be some boob like you that will get a Slot
SpecOp9
Mon Oct 13, 2003 5:01 am
#5

I think the Holocrons get harder and harder to get the further you go into getting them, until you finally piece together the entire thing.
Oloosi
Wed Jun 30, 2004 4:45 am
#6

/Salute

It will take this fourm a little while to see the the light. I firmly belive this is the most Hell Bent fourm in the game, but I will admit you guys that have played since launch and stayed bh through it all I salute you and I do support some of your views. I might log my bh in to look around and see what I can do. For those that wonder I gave up at 2/4/4/4 but some how made it to 3/4/4/4. Good luck guys and Im sure Ill see some of the old faces on bria agin. : )


Belive me this fourm is always looked at by the dev's look at all the post here. So remember change is sometimes good this aint a nerf pre's are being eliminated you can keep or let go its up to you? You do now have a choice in some of the matters enjoy it /bow4



-The Final Exit Has Begun-

Brakor
Mon Dec 27, 2004 7:34 am
#7

Fellow BH's I am not new to the game but I am new to this forum, however here is my 2 cents. Only MBH's should be able to hunt Jedi. Let them keep their "gank squads" because jedi often run and the bounty hunter finds himself facing "gank squads" of their own. The only thing I wish I could see that would make jedi's breath a sigh of relief would be to let players post bounties for other players. That would make jedi happy because you can bet your ass if a BH killed them the bounty hunter would get a hefty price on their head and also this could be used as a tool to help the spiraling out of control economy. Here is a thought for the devs.

Let players post bounties for other players:

Make sure that one person can only place a bounty on the same person once a month so people can't be victimized by a bitter bazillionaire

Take a portion of the posted bounty and say that this is an imperial tax (damn empire)
As an example; A padawan in game gets whacked by a 10 man gank squad and the bounty hunter laughs at his cold dead body and taunts him while he lays there. The padawan is rightfully upset and goes to place a 1 million credit bounty on the BH for his treachery. Take 10% of the money posted and say it goes to the aforementioned imperial tax (when really it is just money leaving the galaxy) This way the treacherous BH gets his for being a d*ck and the padawan (who until recently was a very successful weaponsmith for like 10 months and has more money than he will ever use as a jedi) will have the satisfaction that the BH (and maybe some of the gank squad) will get what they deserve from some other scum BH like myself and everyone will be happy especially the BH who killed the other BH and got his 900,000 credits.

One of the problems with the economy besides the cheaters you guys caught and the solo/group nerf that was put in place, is that there is barely anything that takes money out of the economy besides veteran millionaires leaving the game. If money only comes into the economy and only leaves through player attrition these are the problems you are always gonna have.

Well sorry for my soapbox speach but I think this could help make everyone happy.

-Brakor Stonefist
Master BH / Master Carbineer
Imperial Colonel





Brakor Stonefist___________________________ISF
Former Wielder Of The Force
"The Dark Side of the Force is a pathway to many abilities some consider to be unnatural." -Palpatine
TheCapn2000
Wed Apr 06, 2005 11:36 am
#8

speculation on all this crap sucks...i don't like to waste my time...especially when I am paying for it...


the jedi correspondent needs to grow a pair and get us useful information rather


SOE...the lack of information is disturbing...you want people to quit?...keep upthe silent treatment in regards to jedi curb info...if you don't know how jedi is going to work out then just freakin say so...


delete this post...I do not care...I am tiring of all this







«Sirros» «Dirrk» «Odin'»
THANKS KAURI...IT WAS FUN

LokieEgi
Thu Apr 14, 2005 5:56 pm
#9

I like this game. I had to think to play it. crafting armour was the bomb. **how the hell do you get triple and quad 80 armour FFS**

I had to manage my health, mind and action. Doctors helped me with my health and action atributes. Dancers and chef's for my mind. I had to find a Weaponsmith to outfit my combat ability. I had to find an armoursmith to gather my protection. then I needed to find a smuggler to slice it the way I needed it. All these communities working together for one purpose. To help me survive in combat. It was maybe not there intention to help ME specifically, but they did.

When it all started, weapons, armour, food, buffs and most everything else had certain stats. and you guys as a community pooled your collective intelligence and made the stuff uber. even the Dev's admit they never intended for these products to have such outstanding. We are a smart community. Have you seen some the shops people put together. It is in it's entirety like a real store. I know this game is roleplaying, but good lord you guys are awesome. The time, the effort. It seems our game has taken a turn for the worse. professions in revolt. People saying they are cancelling their accounts.(their fervor makes me believe them this time.) Many times has it come up that "cancelling all my accounts" was just a way to ease tension and vent frustration. I would not like it if I left this game. I would not like it if my wife and I could not play our jedi's or my alt make armour. or her alt manage her shop. I am not here because I am uber. Most of you that have dueled me or faced me on the battlefield will know I am not uber. I play because it's fun. I have my friends. But I also will not stand by and watch it go to ruin. I will voice my opinion. I will be heard. and when, on May 5th, this game is not as it was or better. Then it is no longer fun. and I am no longer entertained. I could possibly adjust to the new system. But honestly, I have been considering something new lately anyway. I am not threatening SOE/SWG/Dev's with anything. It is simple for me, and I think for us, when it is no longer fun. I will walk away. You freakin people are some of the smartest folks I have ever seen. You make stuff in the game beyond what it was suppose to be. The guys from the jedi forums ripped the .tre files open and explained them to us jedi forcing the Dev's to make SonGmake a statement. You make macros that do everything. I like you guys. you have helped me on the boards from day one. and countless others I am sure. thanks.

it ain't over. nothin's over. was it over when the jedi bombed pearl harbour?
and it ain't over now...so who's with me...let's GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO.

Message Edited by LokieEgi on 04-14-2005 09:20 PM



-=Lokie Egi=-(Jedi Gimp)
Master Defender/Enhancer 4-0-0-4/Healer 3-0-2-0/Sabres 0-4-0-4
My templet might not be great, but at least I get beat alot.
panther_bf
Thu Apr 14, 2005 6:15 pm
#10






LokieEgi wrote:
I like this game. I had to think to play it. crafting armour was the bomb. **how the hell do you get triple and quad 80 armour FFS**I had to manage my health, mind and action. Doctors helped me with my health and action atributes. Dancers and chef's for my mind. I had to find a Weaponsmith to outfit my combat ability. I had to find an armoursmith to gather my protection. then I needed to find a smuggler to slice it the way I needed it. All these communities working together for one purpose. To help me survive in combat. It was maybe not there intention to help ME specifically, but they did.When it all started, weapons, armour, food, buffs and most everything else had certain stats. and you guys as a community pooled your collective intelligence and made the stuff uber. even the Dev's admit they never intended for these products to have such outstanding. We are a smart community. Have you seen some the shops people put together. It is in it's entirety like a real store. I know this game is roleplaying, but good lord you guys are awesome. The time, the effort. It seems our game has taken a turn for the worse. professions in revolt. People saying they are cancelling their accounts.(their fervor makes me believe them this time.) Many times has it come up that "cancelling all my accounts" was just a way to ease tension and vent frustration. I would not like it if I left this game. I would not like it if my wife and I could not play our jedi's or my alt make armour. or her alt manage her shop. I am not here because I am uber. Most of you that have dueled me or faced me on the battlefield will know I am not uber. I play because it's fun. I have my friends. But I also will not stand by and watch it go to ruin. I will voice my opinion. I will be heard. and when, on May 5th, this game is not as it was or better. Then it is no longer fun. and I am no longer entertained. I could possibly adjust to the new system. But honestly, I have been considering something new lately anyway. I am not threatening SOE/SWG/Dev's with anything. It is simple for me, and I think for us, when it is no longer fun. I will walk away. You freakin people are some of the smartest folks I have ever seen. You make stuff in the game beyond what it was suppose to be. The guys from the jedi forums ripped the .tre files open and explained them to us jedi forcing the Dev's to make SonGmake a statement. You make macros that do everything. I like you guys. you have helped me on the boards from day one. and countless others I am sure. thanks.it ain't over. nothin's over. was it over when the jedi bombed pearl harbour?and it ain't over now...so who's with me...let's GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO.



Paragraphs! Some nice points you got there though.




Col. Jaime Flyingcross

Imperial Army | Lords of War



Fear leads to anger. Anger leads to hate. Hatred leads to power. Power leads to victory.

LokieEgi
Thu Apr 14, 2005 6:20 pm
#11

yeah, I wrote it in notepad and copied it over here. did not come out like it looked when I wrote it.



-=Lokie Egi=-(Jedi Gimp)
Master Defender/Enhancer 4-0-0-4/Healer 3-0-2-0/Sabres 0-4-0-4
My templet might not be great, but at least I get beat alot.
solderuk
Fri Jul 22, 2005 5:31 am
#12




Hello to all my brothers and sister in of the noble art of Teräs Käsi I am a old old school master I started the game as wanting to be a TKM and got there in the end. Mind you those were the days when you would start the day with a 20k credit buff in corrent or corolag as it was called because it was so full of people getting buffs and merchants offering there wares. Then slap on your 80% kinetic armour and then commence But kicking with speed and power unseen now. My addiction to versarian brandy was quite costly. The Problem back then was that everyone had the same armour and my damage was kinetic biased I sucked in pvp. Many of my fellow TKM’s re-rolled as fencers and riflemen, the only ranged profession worth taking other than pistoler. But I stayed true I may have sucked at pvp but I was a god of war at pve, wherever I went there would be a trail of dead storm troopers and other beasties.


Btw the way shouts out to the guy who used to go fully overt in rebel armour and do his thing I really respected that guy the amount of ass kicking’s he must of taken from what was then a very healthy imperial population must have been astronomical and every time I saw him I felt nothing but admiration for the effort he must have put in


One day I logged in and saw a Jedi in Thead out in the open showing off is glowy stick skills I was amazed at the site of this out in the open. He was a imp of course and everyone was just begging him for a duel me included but he was just there to say how crappy he thought his profession was and that he was quitting, typical imp can’t resist showing off J before giving up. Three days later jedi were every where and I suddenly felt the inner glow of the force and I was off to start the FS quests. Prior to the jedI revamp I had thought about jedI but it just seem like to much hard work and to any jedI that went thought that grind I have to say you earned that sabre the guild I was in had a guy on his last unlock he had to master merchant which took a age. I got a bit bored with the game and thought I had seen it all and I was not enamoured with the idea of the super grind for jedI plus there was a rumour that they going to revamp combat and even things out a bit so as eq2 was on the horizon I stopped playing for a while…


I am now back and what do I find cornet is a ghost town that is run by rebel npcs wherever I walk there is a jedI and they’re not even making any effort to hide it but that’s a different rant. (Not blaming any jedI im sure you deserve to be where are and its probably not your fault the way I see the game as it is now)


The imperial cause on my sever seems to have largely rolled over and died or switched sides dam it I used to be the under dog where ever I went I was in constant fear for my life imps where everywhere and there was a ongoing war that never ended in anchor head between rebs and imps, that again is a ghost town and that again is another rant.


Ranged profs have finally got the position they deserve as dps killers and there are many people who have taken up the carbineer profession which before cu I never meet any who deliberately did so. I do miss being able to hit for 2k dps plus my area attack is also very missed.


This is what I think of TKM now. We can not stand on our own without taking up another profession I have taken combat medic because the skills compliment TKM please do not tell me your template I don’t care. this is what I took seeing that TKM is not enough now and it works for me. Many people take TK so they don’t have to where the heavily over price armour that Is on the market (unless the recourses for making it suddenly became very rare there is absolutely no justification for charging 400k for a full suit of armour my set of comp only cost me 80k that’s including getting it sliced back in the day and when I came back I gave it to a noob so they could use it or sell it) I like that that are so many people running round in a mix of armour and clothes it has a more star wars feel. Many have taken TK so they have less down time and can meditate off the wounds this too I have no problem with its better than sitting in a medical centre for an hour. TKM was my first profession and it will be the last that I will drop and very reluctantly I might add. If we are the ultimate tanks why do we not have a shout ability so we can pull entire mobs off people and on to us and why does our taunt take so long to recharge by the time it has the mob has already gone back on to what I’ve pulled it off. Yes I know because of the second profession I’ve taken I’m not a true tank to be a true tank I have to be a swordsman that’s why the tree for two handed is there for or a pike man plus doc 4xxx for heals, this is currently the most popular template. I like power boost its now useful where, as before I used to up my stats before I got a buff now it’s the only buff that I need. Force of will is broken for me any talent that after I am incapacitated then doubles that incapacitation timer is not one that I will use please fix it. I like centre of being it’s the ability I have it on Spam and I find my defences to be very good indeed not exceptional but what they should be in my opinion.


I can solo well enough and find that I need to be cautious about what I go up against. Which is good after slapping on all my mcm de-buffs and I TK it down using armour break adv combo dizzy and KD blow this works for me. I don’t like that KD last for about 5 seconds 10 would be better. I never use improved lunge as its seems to do nothing I like the recovers they have helped a lot. So far I have only had one pvp fight and that was with a BH who was healing himself the entire time which is apparently ok to do now but in my day was very bad form and only used in reb v imp fights however if I had healed I can say without ego would have had him with no problem. We no seem to be relegated to back up profession that other professions can build off ours is the martial artist/monk that is found many games of this type we are a oddity not really necessary but there still the same. I am not entirely unhappy with what has become of us and I would not want to go back to how things used before us though I do miss the damage. But would not trade it for the defences we have now.


All that’s in the game for me now is to find out what being a jedI is like become a rebel ace pilot do the DWB (never did it used to be instant death even worse than then corvette which cost me a set of armour) and completing kashyyyk


Brothers and sisters here end the lesson Agoz of Farstar A True Teräs Käsi Master With Bitter Sweet Feelings About the state of the game.





Agoz of Farstar
noobofthenight
Fri Jul 22, 2005 2:35 pm
#13

hehe, u seem to have the same opinion i do cept ive always been ranged, but cos of innitate armour, and tuskens cant wear armour, i decided to go for tk hehe tis fun . Nice read



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