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Thread: AS Correspondent: We need to get real!

ZionHalcyon
Fri Apr 15, 2005 2:40 pm
#14






Egeto wrote:





ShugFlurry wrote:





BLD_007 wrote:





Cianhydle wrote:

Oa'Kron is my Correspondent






AMEN...he was a great leader






actually from what I saw him just post he still is.




/cheer shug!


A leader does not need athrone in which to sit. A leader only needs his or her feet to go into battle. Take a look at the profession boards...the vast majority of them have dedicated testers other than the corres. I'm sure this fellow, Oak will continue to lead and serve his profession. He does not need the accolades as much as the respect of the people who can use his work. I Salute this person as he obviously cares quite passionatley about his profession.


I am hard pressed to believe this Zion character cares for anymore than than the afore-mentioned throne. I hope he gets it and continues to act the way he is acting. The throne is an excellent target place for the tomatoes that will inevitbly be thrown.








See, you actually had a pretty classy post going, up until you brought me into it. Then, it just became another flame fest. You should have just stopped at the first paragraph - okram deserves more respect than that to have a nice summation of his skills and dedicationconcluded with low-brow flaming.



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ZionHalcyon
Fri Apr 15, 2005 2:48 pm
#15

It's called work - I work for a living, so I can't be home testing right now, when I get home, then I can be testing.


And it's sad that I have become such a big issue on the forums.


Go on, keep making me your scapegoat. You will never accomplish anything that way.



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Jorren's Spy Kill-o-meter:
334 Rebels |5 Jetpacks | 4 BARC | 3 AT-RT | 2 Desert Skiff | 2 AV-21
and countless speederbikes and land speeders.
I love being a spy.
Egeto
Fri Apr 15, 2005 2:52 pm
#16






ZionHalcyon wrote:

It's called work - I work for a living, so I can't be home testing right now, when I get home, then I can be testing.


And it's sad that I have become such a big issue on the forums.


Go on, keep making me your scapegoat. You will never accomplish anything that way.






It's not me that's attempting to accomplish anything. It's you. I'm just making an observation of the fact.




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ZionHalcyon
Fri Apr 15, 2005 2:55 pm
#17






Egeto wrote:





ZionHalcyon wrote:

It's called work - I work for a living, so I can't be home testing right now, when I get home, then I can be testing.


And it's sad that I have become such a big issue on the forums.


Go on, keep making me your scapegoat. You will never accomplish anything that way.






It's not me that's attempting to accomplish anything. It's you. I'm just making an observation of the fact.






So am I, and we are at an impasse.



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Jorren's Spy Kill-o-meter:
334 Rebels |5 Jetpacks | 4 BARC | 3 AT-RT | 2 Desert Skiff | 2 AV-21
and countless speederbikes and land speeders.
I love being a spy.
Gleemonkey
Fri Apr 15, 2005 3:08 pm
#18

You guys dont get it. The devs will do whatever they want to do anyway, correspondant or not.

That's totally obvious.



TEH DEVS ARE TURNING SWG INTO EVERSTARWOWQUEST!
Ham-Jo
Fri Apr 15, 2005 5:08 pm
#19






ZionHalcyon wrote:

It's called work - I work for a living, so I can't be home testing right now, when I get home, then I can be testing.


And it's sad that I have become such a big issue on the forums.


Go on, keep making me your scapegoat. You will never accomplish anything that way.







What makes you the person that people are claiming you to be is the fact that you have to sit there and respond to everything. You say you have a level head? You cant let ANYTHING go. You have to sit there and continually defend yourself for some unknown reason.


Your never going to do any good by sitting there and responding to anyone. Im not saying they are wrong in their opinion of you, as i agree with them, but the fact that you snap back every chance you get does not make you a better person. That fact that your assuming that people are talking about you, even though you may be correct....makes you look dumb. The fact that you continue to draw attention to YOURSELF is unbecoming.


If in fact you would happen to become AS coorespondent....i will drop it immediately, and never come here again. I refuse to be lead by a person with as narrow of a mind as yours...or be lead by someone that has in the past continually talked down to people....and would drop it for that before i would drop it for the CU. And that my friend, is saying alot.




ham-jo
master of all that is nWo . master politician
proud founder of the new world order
Peace is a lie, there is only passion. Through passion, I gain strength. Through strength, I gain power. Through power, I gain victory. Through victory, my chains are broken. The Force shall set me free.

ZionHalcyon
Fri Apr 15, 2005 5:13 pm
#20






Ham-Jo wrote:





ZionHalcyon wrote:

It's called work - I work for a living, so I can't be home testing right now, when I get home, then I can be testing.


And it's sad that I have become such a big issue on the forums.


Go on, keep making me your scapegoat. You will never accomplish anything that way.







What makes you the person that people are claiming you to be is the fact that you have to sit there and respond to everything. You say you have a level head? You cant let ANYTHING go. You have to sit there and continually defend yourself for some unknown reason.


Your never going to do any good by sitting there and responding to anyone. Im not saying they are wrong in their opinion of you, as i agree with them, but the fact that you snap back every chance you get does not make you a better person. That fact that your assuming that people are talking about you, even though you may be correct....makes you look dumb. The fact that you continue to draw attention to YOURSELF is unbecoming.


If in fact you would happen to become AS coorespondent....i will drop it immediately, and never come here again. I refuse to be lead by a person with as narrow of a mind as yours...or be lead by someone that has in the past continually talked down to people....and would drop it for that before i would drop it for the CU. And that my friend, is saying alot.








If that is how you feel, then in a sense, I DO hope I get the position, and that more people of your attitude do the same. Then at least the people with level heads will be left, and we can improve our profession.



After all, if you REALLY give a damn about Armorsmith, no one person would ever cause you to drop it, no matter what.




Z I O N U H A L C Y O N
J O R R EN U DA RK S T A R
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Jorren's Spy Kill-o-meter:
334 Rebels |5 Jetpacks | 4 BARC | 3 AT-RT | 2 Desert Skiff | 2 AV-21
and countless speederbikes and land speeders.
I love being a spy.
Gleemonkey
Fri Apr 15, 2005 5:15 pm
#21



ZionHalcyon wrote:


Ham-Jo wrote:


ZionHalcyon wrote:
It's called work - I work for a living, so I can't be home testing right now, when I get home, then I can be testing.
And it's sad that I have become such a big issue on the forums.
Go on, keep making me your scapegoat. You will never accomplish anything that way.



What makes you the person that people are claiming you to be is the fact that you have to sit there and respond to everything. You say you have a level head? You cant let ANYTHING go. You have to sit there and continually defend yourself for some unknown reason.

Your never going to do any good by sitting there and responding to anyone. Im not saying they are wrong in their opinion of you, as i agree with them, but the fact that you snap back every chance you get does not make you a better person. That fact that your assuming that people are talking about you, even though you may be correct....makes you look dumb. The fact that you continue to draw attention to YOURSELF is unbecoming.

If in fact you would happen to become AS coorespondent....i will drop it immediately, and never come here again. I refuse to be lead by a person with as narrow of a mind as yours...or be lead by someone that has in the past continually talked down to people....and would drop it for that before i would drop it for the CU. And that my friend, is saying alot.




If that is how you feel, then in a sense, I DO hope I get the position, and that more people of your attitude do the same. Then at least the people with level heads will be left, and we can improve our profession.

After all, if you REALLY give a damn about Armorsmith, no one person would ever cause you to drop it, no matter what.







the really funny thing is that YOU think you'll make a difference.



TEH DEVS ARE TURNING SWG INTO EVERSTARWOWQUEST!
Ham-Jo
Fri Apr 15, 2005 5:24 pm
#22






Gleemonkey wrote:





ZionHalcyon wrote:





Ham-Jo wrote:





ZionHalcyon wrote:

It's called work - I work for a living, so I can't be home testing right now, when I get home, then I can be testing.


And it's sad that I have become such a big issue on the forums.


Go on, keep making me your scapegoat. You will never accomplish anything that way.







What makes you the person that people are claiming you to be is the fact that you have to sit there and respond to everything. You say you have a level head? You cant let ANYTHING go. You have to sit there and continually defend yourself for some unknown reason.


Your never going to do any good by sitting there and responding to anyone. Im not saying they are wrong in their opinion of you, as i agree with them, but the fact that you snap back every chance you get does not make you a better person. That fact that your assuming that people are talking about you, even though you may be correct....makes you look dumb. The fact that you continue to draw attention to YOURSELF is unbecoming.


If in fact you would happen to become AS coorespondent....i will drop it immediately, and never come here again. I refuse to be lead by a person with as narrow of a mind as yours...or be lead by someone that has in the past continually talked down to people....and would drop it for that before i would drop it for the CU. And that my friend, is saying alot.








If that is how you feel, then in a sense, I DO hope I get the position, and that more people of your attitude do the same. Then at least the people with level heads will be left, and we can improve our profession.



After all, if you REALLY give a damn about Armorsmith, no one person would ever cause you to drop it, no matter what.









the really funny thing is that YOU think you'll make a difference.





Bingo....i knew zion wouldnt comprehend it.



ham-jo
master of all that is nWo . master politician
proud founder of the new world order
Peace is a lie, there is only passion. Through passion, I gain strength. Through strength, I gain power. Through power, I gain victory. Through victory, my chains are broken. The Force shall set me free.

Ham-Jo
Fri Apr 15, 2005 5:27 pm
#23






ZionHalcyon wrote:





Ham-Jo wrote:





ZionHalcyon wrote:

It's called work - I work for a living, so I can't be home testing right now, when I get home, then I can be testing.


And it's sad that I have become such a big issue on the forums.


Go on, keep making me your scapegoat. You will never accomplish anything that way.







What makes you the person that people are claiming you to be is the fact that you have to sit there and respond to everything. You say you have a level head? You cant let ANYTHING go. You have to sit there and continually defend yourself for some unknown reason.


Your never going to do any good by sitting there and responding to anyone. Im not saying they are wrong in their opinion of you, as i agree with them, but the fact that you snap back every chance you get does not make you a better person. That fact that your assuming that people are talking about you, even though you may be correct....makes you look dumb. The fact that you continue to draw attention to YOURSELF is unbecoming.


If in fact you would happen to become AS coorespondent....i will drop it immediately, and never come here again. I refuse to be lead by a person with as narrow of a mind as yours...or be lead by someone that has in the past continually talked down to people....and would drop it for that before i would drop it for the CU. And that my friend, is saying alot.








If that is how you feel, then in a sense, I DO hope I get the position, and that more people of your attitude do the same. Then at least the people with level heads will be left, and we can improve our profession.



After all, if you REALLY give a damn about Armorsmith, no one person would ever cause you to drop it, no matter what.








This is what you dont understand.......Having this profession lead by you.....would be the end of the Armorsmith profession.


A coorespondent is someone that CAN deal with people.....something you have NEVER shown until this recent...."OMG i might have a chance!! Better put my act routine on!!" act that you seem to be portraying.


Im not worried.....they will do a history check on your forum name Zion.....i have no doubt that you wont get it..




ham-jo
master of all that is nWo . master politician
proud founder of the new world order
Peace is a lie, there is only passion. Through passion, I gain strength. Through strength, I gain power. Through power, I gain victory. Through victory, my chains are broken. The Force shall set me free.

Moge_Tira_Tru
Fri Apr 15, 2005 5:37 pm
#24



BLD_007 wrote:

His grave is not even cold yet...

We are protesting that they didnt even give him a warning...and its way tolate in the CU to change anything.






In no way is it to late to change things in the CU. Yes it is probably to late to completely start over and give us our full Exp lines back. but it is no no way to late to do 90% of the things that we are asking for.

What we are asking for is nothing massive, nothing CU-Breaking. We just want some tweaks to the current system. Yes we have some non-basic stuff as well I agree with that but we have three weeks, three weeks of testing is seriously a lot of time. This is why we need a Corresponent ASAP. Wether is it me or Zion or others we just need a voice.

"The Devs won't listen" is what I hear from almost everyone. Well that may or may not be true. But I just refuse to give up on a game I have played for almost 2 years out of spite.

In the end at least I can say I went down fighting.



Moge Tira'Tru Master Rifleman / Ace Rebel Pilot
Maili Dark Jedi
ZionHalcyon
Fri Apr 15, 2005 5:44 pm
#25






Ham-Jo wrote:





ZionHalcyon wrote:





Ham-Jo wrote:





ZionHalcyon wrote:

It's called work - I work for a living, so I can't be home testing right now, when I get home, then I can be testing.


And it's sad that I have become such a big issue on the forums.


Go on, keep making me your scapegoat. You will never accomplish anything that way.







What makes you the person that people are claiming you to be is the fact that you have to sit there and respond to everything. You say you have a level head? You cant let ANYTHING go. You have to sit there and continually defend yourself for some unknown reason.


Your never going to do any good by sitting there and responding to anyone. Im not saying they are wrong in their opinion of you, as i agree with them, but the fact that you snap back every chance you get does not make you a better person. That fact that your assuming that people are talking about you, even though you may be correct....makes you look dumb. The fact that you continue to draw attention to YOURSELF is unbecoming.


If in fact you would happen to become AS coorespondent....i will drop it immediately, and never come here again. I refuse to be lead by a person with as narrow of a mind as yours...or be lead by someone that has in the past continually talked down to people....and would drop it for that before i would drop it for the CU. And that my friend, is saying alot.








If that is how you feel, then in a sense, I DO hope I get the position, and that more people of your attitude do the same. Then at least the people with level heads will be left, and we can improve our profession.



After all, if you REALLY give a damn about Armorsmith, no one person would ever cause you to drop it, no matter what.








This is what you dont understand.......Having this profession lead by you.....would be the end of the Armorsmith profession.


A coorespondent is someone that CAN deal with people.....something you have NEVER shown until this recent...."OMG i might have a chance!! Better put my act routine on!!" act that you seem to be portraying.


Im not worried.....they will do a history check on your forum name Zion.....i have no doubt that you wont get it..








Line 1) Hardly. It would just mean it would change. Check the scout forums lately? They got a pretty abrasive corrospondant, and he does all right by them.


Line 2) Oh really? So that whole "Let me share my RIS crafting findings" post showed absolutely nothing in terms of interacting and giving back to the community? You paint me as the villian because I am CONVENIENT for you. Picking on me is the easy way out for you - it gives you a target to attack. But while you are attacking me, I am actually TRYING to get proactive threads off the ground, in hopes to salvage here. And don't give me this "its an act to get the corro job" crap - I had 2 threads already up trying to do this earlier this week, long before Any of us knew this would happen with okram. No, you just need someone to pick on, and I am convenient for you. Good job, you represent everything people hate about our community.


Line 3) I am not worried either. If I get it great, if I don't good luck to whoever does get it, because if they act like you, they will be ignored by the devs, and if they actually try to be patient and rational, you and your type will label them a brown-noser. People like you are setting up the next corrospondant to be an a "damned if they do, damned if the don't" position. And for that, you are making a horrible, horrible mistake that will set us back even further than the blatant disregard for rules, authority, and protocol that has been seen on this forum has.


But hey, you feel perfectly justified in acting like an @ss - so far be it from me to dissuade you. By all means, continue. You all have done such a WONDERFUL job of getting changes made to the profession already by acting like this. /sarcasm




Z I O N U H A L C Y O N
J O R R EN U DA RK S T A R
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Jorren's Spy Kill-o-meter:
334 Rebels |5 Jetpacks | 4 BARC | 3 AT-RT | 2 Desert Skiff | 2 AV-21
and countless speederbikes and land speeders.
I love being a spy.
FloorPizza
Sun Apr 17, 2005 3:33 pm
#26

Zion:


I have no idea who you are, I have never spoken to you, I'm not even on the same server as you, but I do have to put in my two cents worth regarding your running for AS corr, and why many of us (including myself) have little confidence in your ability to represent us.


You seem to be far more involved and concerned about political posturing and defending yourself against any negative posts about you than you do about the current nightmare that is the armorsmith profession. Let's do a quick comparison, you vs. okram. First of all, you will hardly find any negative posts about him. Second, on the rare occasion that you do find a negative post about him, what has been his response? NOTHING! Instead of wasting time responding to negative posts, he's spent what time he has continuing the plight of our profession. Another perfect example.... After getting yanked from his corr post, rather than getting on a soapbox (like you are ever so quick to do) and trying to defend himself, he simply said a quick good bye, and RESUMED TESTING ON TC to (once again) further our cause. Now that takes dedication, self control, and your ever popular "level head" (which appears to be a concept you talk about alot, but fail to grasp). If you want support for the position, then be more like your predecessor. It just seems like you can't understand why everyone is still supporting him and not you. Well, it's the above fundamental differences, man.... Put on your thickest skin. Don't let negativity (including this post) drive you to an ongoing flame fest that serves no purpose nor furthers our cause. Show your work! Test. Report back objectively on your results. Honestly, you've shown that you are really capable of putting alot of effort into this, as shown by your ongoing defensive posts. Rechannel all that effort into being an effective tester, and LISTENER (capable of seeing both sides of an issue, and not just your views ) and you just might change some opinions regarding whether or not we want you as our representative to the devs. But.... continuing to respond to flames with more flames is getting both you and the AS profession nowhere..... fast.



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