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atomicdog
Thu Apr 21, 2005 9:12 pm
#14

This is a sad sign. Jedi in this forum have been bickering about trivial matters afraid that some one may get more or less then they should in the respec and the BH's are the ones looking out for our best interest.


With that said we do need to truely look at what our profession can and cannot do post CU. hearing many people talk about how gimped the Jedi are in their current state in test. These issues are what we should be addressing instead of how the respec will or will not happen.


Glad that our enemies are looking out for our profession since we seem to have lost our focus.



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Sportiva
Thu Apr 21, 2005 9:15 pm
#15






atomicdog wrote:

This is a sad sign. Jedi in this forum have been bickering about trivial matters afraid that some one may get more or less then they should in the respec and the BH's are the ones looking out for our best interest.


With that said we do need to truely look at what our profession can and cannot do post CU. hearing many people talk about how gimped the Jedi are in their current state in test. These issues are what we should be addressing instead of how the respec will or will not happen.


Glad that our enemies are looking out for our profession since we seem to have lost our focus.




My point exactly!!




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garciaoki
Thu Apr 21, 2005 9:18 pm
#16






Vash72 wrote:

thats the first well thought post i've ever seen from tanks lol






I can agree. Only losing XP on BH death is fine for me. Losing XP on Cloning is ridiculous. Also, this will keep us from needing a Doc standing by at the closest SP to where you are grinding. The question is, if this were to be implemented...will they reset the Knights and full templeted Jedi the 0 XP if they are already capped in the negative? That is something that I would like to know....



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NemsisJedi
Thu Apr 21, 2005 9:22 pm
#17






Sportiva wrote:

What's wrong with this picture??





Tanks wrote:

After CU it will be six times as hard for Jedi to gain experience. No more wading into a group of Rancors and kill 6 in under a minute. A white con takes 1-2 minutes to kill and gives 900-1000 exp.


Assuming nothing changes, I suggest that the Cloning experience penalty should go away, so they lose experience only when they die due to a BH mission.


This would help in the following ways:


  • More up and coming Jedi in PvP (more visibility, more missions for us).

  • Allow up and coming Jedi to stay in the game. We do NOT want the lower levels to give up (no missions).

  • It also balances the reduction in power.

Let me know what you think. Do not mention the respec to Knight issue for current Padawans as that is a work in progress.







I think SonG does a great job, but the lack of substantial information in THIS forum is driving me nuts!









I have to Agree with "B.H." corrsepondent on not B.H. D.B. death penalty - XP loss from not B.H. DeathBlow should be removed. With new way of exp gain it's just not want, it must be removed. There is nothing about i want Jedi to be more easy, it's just reasonable with post CU grinding.








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FragKeeper
Thu Apr 21, 2005 11:02 pm
#18

Seriously, why do we have to read the bh forums for information around here? SonG has never impressed me. What do we really have to do to get either a new correspondant or at least an additional one?

go ahead SonG lovers, flame me if it makes you feel better



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Ihareo
Thu Apr 21, 2005 11:04 pm
#19






atomicdog wrote:

This is a sad sign. Jedi in this forum have been bickering about trivial matters afraid that some one may get more or less then they should in the respec and the BH's are the ones looking out for our best interest.


With that said we do need to truely look at what our profession can and cannot do post CU. hearing many people talk about how gimped the Jedi are in their current state in test. These issues are what we should be addressing instead of how the respec will or will not happen.


Glad that our enemies are looking out for our profession since we seem to have lost our focus.




Yah. Kinda makes you proud in a sad sort of way doesn't it?





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jokerbacca
Thu Apr 21, 2005 11:13 pm
#20






Sportiva wrote:

What's wrong with this picture??





Tanks wrote:

After CU it will be six times as hard for Jedi to gain experience. No more wading into a group of Rancors and kill 6 in under a minute. A white con takes 1-2 minutes to kill and gives 900-1000 exp.


Assuming nothing changes, I suggest that the Cloning experience penalty should go away, so they lose experience only when they die due to a BH mission.


This would help in the following ways:


  • More up and coming Jedi in PvP (more visibility, more missions for us).

  • Allow up and coming Jedi to stay in the game. We do NOT want the lower levels to give up (no missions).

  • It also balances the reduction in power.

Let me know what you think. Do not mention the respec to Knight issue for current Padawans as that is a work in progress.







I think SonG does a great job, but the lack of substantial information in THIS forum is driving me nuts!



SonG, is doing a great job...



read tanks' post futher down in that thread he's being 'pre-emptive'... Translation Son is giving the devs heck and tanks is trying to salvage or head off a possible major change in the situation. That's how tanks seems to operate btw, trial balloons or heading others of at the pass.. DONT BACK DOWN SONG!! (I know you won't, lol)














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koldbones
Thu Apr 21, 2005 11:21 pm
#21

Hes not posting it to help us hes posting to help BH. This is just another way there trying to make it all worth while for bh, he knows that with it being harder to grind there will be alot less padawans therefore less content for BH. If this is passed it will just tell me who has teh push and who is the red headed step-child. Also we really dont ahve any way to adress concerns with teh CU since we dont really have any testing done that could be critical. Yes we have the sand box guys, but how much can 7 do for a total profession before the release?. Would think thats why we have so much bickering, the sp conversion is just the flavor of the weak kind of thing till the next big xplosion comes along. If we were thoguht of as a profession we would ahve been able to test this jsut like everyone else has been able to. Honestly after being on tc 4 today Iam kind of scared to even try to do conversion, I lost 6 sp jedi and 6 elite, and you know they will not be giveing those points back if you lose them.

Vash72
Thu Apr 21, 2005 11:25 pm
#22

soe does not plan for the cu to be ready on may 5th when it goes live. there will be a lot more testing done when it hits live lol.


eek, sad thing is thats not a joke.



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Rob_McIntyre
Fri Apr 22, 2005 1:38 pm
#23






FragKeeper wrote:
Seriously, why do we have to read the bh forums for information around here? SonG has never impressed me. What do we really have to do to get either a new correspondant or at least an additional one?

go ahead SonG lovers, flame me if it makes you feel better





I have to agree with you about SonG. I think of him as the one that lubes up the jedi's for the devs.



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Kovev
Fri Apr 22, 2005 1:55 pm
#24



Sportiva wrote:
What's wrong with this picture??

Tanks wrote:
After CU it will be six times as hard for Jedi to gain experience. No more wading into a group of Rancors and kill 6 in under a minute. A white con takes 1-2 minutes to kill and gives 900-1000 exp.
Assuming nothing changes, I suggest that the Cloning experience penalty should go away, so they lose experience only when they die due to a BH mission.
This would help in the following ways:
  • More up and coming Jedi in PvP (more visibility, more missions for us).
  • Allow up and coming Jedi to stay in the game. We do NOT want the lower levels to give up (no missions).
  • It also balances the reduction in power.

Let me know what you think. Do not mention the respec to Knight issue for current Padawans as that is a work in progress.



I think SonG does a great job, but the lack of substantial information in THIS forum is driving me nuts!







Yet anothr reason for the 1 to 1 SP conversion to happen.



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MadAtGravity
Fri Apr 22, 2005 1:59 pm
#25







Tanks wrote:



After CU it will be six times as hard for Jedi to gain experience. No more wading into a group of Rancors and kill 6 in under a minute. A white con takes 1-2 minutes to kill and gives 900-1000 exp.


Assuming nothing changes, I suggest that the Cloning experience penalty should go away, so they lose experience only when they die due to a BH mission.


This would help in the following ways:


  • More up and coming Jedi in PvP (more visibility, more missions for us).

  • Allow up and coming Jedi to stay in the game. We do NOT want the lower levels to give up (no missions).

  • It also balances the reduction in power.

Let me know what you think. Do not mention the respec to Knight issue for current Padawans as that is a work in progress.







1 to 2 minutes to drain force power, take damage, poison, disease, etc and possibly get killedto finally gain only 900xp? That is a long time. This means it will take 5 to 10 times longer to gain the xp during the monotonous grind we currently have? If the amount of xp it takes to level remains the same, all I can say is I will probably put my lower leveljedi on the shelf (give up), try my 2nd slot toon for awhile and see if it is enough to make me want to keep playing this game. The Bounty Hunters won't have me for content.......



Message Edited by MadAtGravity on 04-22-2005 04:00 PM



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La-grange
Fri Apr 22, 2005 5:34 pm
#26

Go to the In testing forum on game updates and scroll up and down really fast.

Due to an optical illusion the "combat upgrade" between the "TCEP3 down" posts blurs into "combat downgrade". ROFLMAO



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