Armorsmith Archive
Thread: Petition for better wooly hide
Areriye wrote:
Boskee wrote:
My guess is that you are someone who grinded their way to master armoursmith and expected to be able to make the best armour the same day. Once you found out that you can't do it, you want it handed to you.
No... I don't, and I didn't expect to be able to make top quality armor the first day.
I have been master armorsmith for about a month now, maybe longer. There is nothing to stockpile because there hasn't been ANYTHING TO STOCKPILE. We had a Corellian wooly hide shift that was good, and I hunted them for 2 hours a day for the entirety of the shift for a 15k stack of wooly that is already half gone. What else am I supposed to do? One guy is paying 115 cpu for that shift... and still he's not getting any offers or sales.
Someone cannot work their way up or even be competitive if they're unable to gather even mediocre resources. Wooly on our server is not only unuberlike, it is horrid quality stuff. Here are the current shift's stats... with the exception of Lokian Wooly (impossible to obtain), it's all OQ+SR < 1100, and this is NORMAL.
Peogiof, Corellian Wooly Hide
DR=84, MA=48, OQ=107, SR=691, UT=626
Eogi, Endorian Wooly Hide
DR=320, MA=70, OQ=397, SR=31, UT=534
Aesroed, Lokian Wooly Hide
DR=384, MA=471, OQ=823, SR=770, UT=125
Hate, Nabooian Wooly Hide
DR=473, MA=901, OQ=363, SR=765, UT=152 *
Cirdoll, Rori Wooly Hide
DR=677, MA=480, OQ=442, SR=145, UT=954 *
Gyce, Talusian Wooly Hide
DR=610, MA=189, OQ=164, SR=775, UT=295
Wrevash, Tatooinian Wooly Hide
DR=14, MA=441, OQ=156, SR=632, UT=155
Srabif, Yavinian Wooly Hide
DR=243, MA=973, OQ=414, SR=378, UT=646 *
And, for the record, I think one stars should be reserved for poorly written threads... nota thread you disagree with.
We had yavian wooly not to long ago that was >1500 stats
When i mastered i made several suits and then had to sit on my hands for a little bit to wait for some wooly and Naboo fiberplast...this is the way things are..its not bad its actually good..
Several people have now become AS's in my PA..I helped them level taught them what i knew and gave them their 20suits worth... I also gave them access to what my old master had left behind which i had not even touched because I simply didn't need it...they are making armor without too many worries for the most part..
Infrequent spawns stop someone from grinding and making suits the next day as it should be...MA is a multimillion investment of time and your money. It pays well..but only if you invest in it very heavily. Im sorry if that for some reason does not seem fair. But that is how an economy works..even one as screwed up as ours
Areriye wrote:
Again.. it's not a matter of paying for the hide in this case. Rangers and scouts won't hunt durnis for any price.
It's also not about making money... it's about being able to craft good armor, which was what I spent my SP to do. Old timers may be used to it, but this is a bloody 'game' after all... one has to wonder how fun this is when there aren't enough resources around to take pride in your craft.
I guess I wasted my time thinking I would get support for easing up on the rarity of a decent spawn of wooly and other resources.... but I still hold by my opinion.
Just think how much more pride you will have in your armor after spending 3 months gathering the best resources possible and your first piece of 71% armor pops out of the factory...and then someone buys that first set...
My suggestion is do what alot of AS's do..get a combat profession and grind that while you get your self properly set up from AS
Sorackles wrote:
But if you really have a love for crafting then you will be patient enough to wait on that good wooly spawn. I think the only reason I'm still playing is because I like crafting so much.
Or maybe I'm crazy. Lol.
Not crazy, I've been a Asmith since launch and picked up WS after I found I had a lot of similar resources.
For me it is no longer about the credits or the volume, it's all about making cool stuff for other players to enjoy. Sometimes I give stuff away to guildmates or polite people, sometimes.
I'd rather stay low volume and keep it fun instead of trying to build some multi million credit empire that becomes a full time job.
But as far as the original poster goes I would staunchly oppose any increase in spawn rates for "uber" wooly. I had to earn every last resource I have, nobody gave anything to me.
UmmonPrime wrote:
One thing about being a great AS is getting to know your fellow ASs.
blah.. blah... blah
I do speak with other armorsmiths and folks on my server. They're all having the same problem and quite a few folks are quitting.
I love how something can't be posted without everyone trying to turn it on the original poster.
Just because things are a certian way for you or maybe for the entirety of your server, don't be a jerk about it and presume things about me because my experience doesn't line up to yours. I've worked damn hard, and I think I've earned the right to say, "Hey... give us a break with the wooly hide already."
Camrux wrote:
But as far as the original poster goes I would staunchly oppose any increase in spawn rates for "uber" wooly. I had to earn every last resource I have, nobody gave anything to me.
Areriye wrote:
UmmonPrime wrote:
One thing about being a great AS is getting to know your fellow ASs.
blah.. blah... blah
I do speak with other armorsmiths and folks on my server. They're all having the same problem and quite a few folks are quitting.
I love how something can't be posted without everyone trying to turn it on the original poster.
Just because things are a certian way for you or maybe for the entirety of your server, don't be a jerk about it and presume things about me because my experience doesn't line up to yours. I've worked damn hard, and I think I've earned the right to say, "Hey... give us a break with the wooly hide already."
Lol. You've worked for a month. That's not that damn hard. It is seriously something you have to deal with. Take up a combat profession. Do something else while you wait for the good wolly to spawn. Try and buy some from an older smith. Don't whine about getting a good spawn of wooly each month. I had to wait 5 months before I could make Adv Composite because Kiirium wouldn't spawn. Try dealing with that before whining about wooly hide being crappy.
Areriye wrote:
UmmonPrime wrote:
One thing about being a great AS is getting to know your fellow ASs.
blah.. blah... blah
I do speak with other armorsmiths and folks on my server. They're all having the same problem and quite a few folks are quitting.
I love how something can't be posted without everyone trying to turn it on the original poster.
Just because things are a certian way for you or maybe for the entirety of your server, don't be a jerk about it and presume things about me because my experience doesn't line up to yours. I've worked damn hard, and I think I've earned the right to say, "Hey... give us a break with the wooly hide already."
You know, I was very polite in my post and offered you the best advise you can get for the situation you're in.
Quit AS now. You will never provide anything useful for the community and we don't need the negativity.
UmmonPrime wrote:
Areriye wrote:
UmmonPrime wrote:
One thing about being a great AS is getting to know your fellow ASs.
blah.. blah... blah
I do speak with other armorsmiths and folks on my server. They're all having the same problem and quite a few folks are quitting.
I love how something can't be posted without everyone trying to turn it on the original poster.
Just because things are a certian way for you or maybe for the entirety of your server, don't be a jerk about it and presume things about me because my experience doesn't line up to yours. I've worked damn hard, and I think I've earned the right to say, "Hey... give us a break with the wooly hide already."
You know, I was very polite in my post and offered you the best advise you can get for the situation you're in.
Quit AS now. You will never provide anything useful for the community and we don't need the negativity.
/agree
People were trying to explain in a polite way why wooly spawns like it does. The gloves are off now with your last post.
Areriye wrote:
And, ya know what, I wasn't even suggesting that. Thanks for reading.
I don't want UBER wooly on all planets at all times.
I want more than 2 usable spawns in 6 months. How is this wrong? Gawd, you people are bitter...
How are they not useable? I've used similar stuff in a pinch. I find it hard to believe that there have been no "useable" spawns in 6 months. The stuff changes every 7-10 days in a shift, average that out and we are looking at 100 different spawns of wooly, are you sure your data is accurate?
I'm not bitter, I just grow weary of new armorsmiths who know nothing of adversity (see beyrillus copper on Bria in the early days) profess that the spawns are all bad.
Nama Rori Wooly Hide Chilastra/Rori 404 18 897 881 395 889 -51d
Ostirb Corellian Wooly Hide Chilastra/Corellia 892 288 1000 698 730 849 -74d
Iadeleki Lokian Wooly Hide Chilastra/Lok 752 793 982 715 328 848 -60d
Ovoz Endorian Wooly Hide Chilastra/Endor 328 946 800 842 42 821 -73d
Ocot Talusian Wooly Hide Chilastra/Talus 812 824 975 663 291 819 -50d
Aesroed Lokian Wooly Hide Chilastra/Lok 384 471 823 770 125 796 +2d
Wow. Chilastra get's such crappy wooly. Please go whine somewhere else.