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Thread: Highest Kin Mabari with/without layers?

Kinslaughterer
Wed May 12, 2004 6:12 am
#1

Doin fashion rather than all out use and wondered what is high Kin for Mabari so I know what roughly to aim for with/without layers.


My Coloured Ubese is flyin out the door and Pink is suprisingly sellable even wih only 60% Kin.


Not been MA for long and havent got all the ingredients for the other armous though I'll probably give them ago in fashion lines aswell.



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Mardonius
Wed May 12, 2004 6:50 am
#2

I imagine the limit is 25% or 30% Kinetic without using Krayt Scales or Voritor Scales.




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Slider067
Wed May 12, 2004 7:14 am
#3


I hit 25% on the final combine at 97% experimentation. Just got some better Bronzium ironfor the Adv. segment, but haven't tried it yet. I don't have access to the stats on the resources atm.


You're right about the fasion. The color palette is great for this armor and it's very light. I've made a few custom sets for lady doctors in pinks and purples...they love it. The helm looks pretty good on a Twi'lek too.


Message Edited by Slider067 on 05-12-2004 10:16 AM



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NinjasLovePirates
Wed May 12, 2004 10:33 am
#4






Kinslaughterer wrote:

Doin fashion rather than all out use and wondered what is high Kin for Mabari so I know what roughly to aim for with/without layers.


My Coloured Ubese is flyin out the door and Pink is suprisingly sellable even wih only 60% Kin.


Not been MA for long and havent got all the ingredients for the other armous though I'll probably give them ago in fashion lines aswell.






With 90% Experimentation on the final product, my 7% Base Adv Segments yield 26% Kinetic resists in the final product. I imaging that the max is 27-28% without enhancements, but i can't remember what the Experimental value was on my segment, so i'm sure that could be higher than 7% base...



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CrackoDoom
Thu May 13, 2004 3:53 am
#5

i hit 49% heat if that matters lol


btw can't use layers in mabari.





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Tirgwystraff
Thu May 13, 2004 5:32 am
#6

We hit 8.5 % on the segment, and 32% kinetic final combine on Intrepid. Also hit 57% heat with the same resources. Also, I could only hit that with 12 experimentation points. I was able to put all 12 points into base for segments.



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NinjasLovePirates
Thu May 13, 2004 9:28 am
#7






Tirgwystraff wrote:
We hit 8.5 % on the segment, and 32% kinetic final combine on Intrepid. Also hit 57% heat with the same resources. Also, I could only hit that with 12 experimentation points. I was able to put all 12 points into base for segments.






god i wish i had your resources... i love Mabari



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AegolinAdaron
Thu May 13, 2004 9:46 pm
#8

Theoretical maximum kinetic resist for non-enhanced mabari is 30% (or 60% heat). Due to bronzium iron and ditanium steel having max SR less than 1000, practical maximum resists are 29% kinetic and 57% heat. (With my current resources I get 26% kinetic or 54% heat).


Emily
AegolinAdaron
Thu May 13, 2004 9:53 pm
#9

Hmm.....when I compare my post with the one where someone makes 32% kinetic mabari, there must be something wrong. Are you making use of enhancements? Or did you craft on that one special day? Or is my model wrong?


Emily


Tirgwystraff
Thu May 13, 2004 10:32 pm
#10





I had no trouble making the 32% ( when I wasn't freaking failing). Let me dig out the resource list of what I was using Some aren't listed on swgcraft, so I'll have to ask Dova to dig out the oq/sr ( I gave him all my resources).


Ekaine Bronzium over 900 oq/ and over 700 or 800 sr ( edit - 956 oq/ 714 sr)


Riwando Ditanium, similar stats to ekaine


corellian fiberplast ( over 950/950)


Dilvacho something polymer ( also over 950/950) ( edit - 980 oq/ 927 sr)


Emettiem duralloy steel ( also over 900/900, think over 950/950) ( may have been the kammris that came after, it was over 950/950 metal)


Dantooine Leathery hide ( over 950 oq/ sr) ( edit Olebarfeuv- 964/ 906) ( also had some bristley over 950/950, and some naboo scaley kicark -950/950)


The segment went to 8.5 +% base, and took all 12 of my points to fill, same with the final combine.




Message Edited by Tirgwystraff on 05-14-2004 12:52 AM


Message Edited by Tirgwystraff on 05-14-2004 12:55 AM


Message Edited by Tirgwystraff on 05-14-2004 01:03 AM

Message Edited by Tirgwystraff on 05-14-2004 01:57 AM



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AegolinAdaron
Fri May 14, 2004 5:05 am
#11

Ok, let me give you my data. For the segment I have the following:


Quality



AegolinAdaron
Fri May 14, 2004 5:23 am
#12

Ok, let me give you my data.


Adv. armorweave segment Armorweave gloves


Quality Base ResistQuality Base resist

10% 2% 27% 13%

17% 2% 34% 14%

24% 3% 41% 16%

31% 4% 48% 17%

38% 4% 55% 18%

46% 5% 62% 20%

53% 5% 69% 21%

60% 6% 76% 22%

67% 7% 83% 23%

74% 7% 90% 25%

95% 26%


So for the segment I find: base resist = 0.0839 x quality + 0.0098

and for the gloves: base resist = 0.1881 x quality + 0.0792


At 100% quality using the 7% segment the gloves would have base resist 27%. To reach the 32% you claim to have obtained,another 5% would be required from the segment. Even at 100% quality, the segment only has base resist 9.4% though (maybe 10%).


In other words: currentlyI do not think it is possible to make mabari armor with base resist over 30% without using any enhancements. The 32% armor you made was either obtained using an enhancement, on the special patch day where crafting was changed orlong ago when the crafting system may have been different.I will gladly apologize if you can make 32% kinetic mabari today without using enhancements.


Emily


Tirgwystraff
Fri May 14, 2004 6:26 am
#13

1) The devs have already said, gated resources are taken into account, and don't hold back the final combine quality ( or our stun layers would look a whole lot worse)


2) You yourself pointed out your segments are alot less than mine. My final combine ingredients are also undoubtedly alot better. I specialized in maberi from get go ( more than 6 months ago), even AFTER I mastered. It's one reason I had a huge stockpile of ditanium when the imp shields came out, when many others didn't. ( As well as high quality scaley and bristley, I actually traded ubese for those hides).


3) Just looked in my house, and found a2 34% krayt/voritor pieces left on my vendor, made with only 4% scales. I had some 8.5 % base segments still in my medium house, but they aren't there anymore ( I gave my resources to Dova). I'll get ahold of him. He is now a 12 point smith I believe. If not, I'll ask him for some samples, and I'll give it to Charprime.


4) I remember asking Sunai to help me with my segments/final combine, because I couldn't max them as a 10 pointer, and he agreed ( however, I got my 12 points right after that, and he quit playing). At the time I was getting 28%, with only 6.8% or so segments. That means the segments maxing took me up to 30% and final combine maxing to 32%.





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