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Thread: Ubese Question

whyhellothere
Wed Nov 26, 2003 10:10 pm
#1

hi i am a melee type, and currently use padded 39% across the board with a mind cost of 25. I am also a master doc so mind is very important. So my question is - what is the mind encumberence on ubese (chest i guess for comparison) when the ubese has resists of around 70%. Also does the ubesa having sockets affect this.



Thanks a heap for your help guys.

Tirgwystraff
Thu Nov 27, 2003 10:12 am
#2

Its really VERY server dependent. On intrepid we have 76% kinetic ubese with a total unsliced suit ham of 328/389/457.A 30% encumb slice on the helm alone (31/35/228) would drop it to (counts on fingers and toes) roughly (21/22/154 ish). You can also ask the smith to specifically experiment down the ham on the helm sacrificing some kinetic ( for us , thats down to 50% kinetic and 186 mind before slicing roughly).


Sockets have absolutely no affect on armor. Sockets are completely randomly placed in armor as well, without any regard to quality or resources. They are just there as facets, to hold on neato attachments




Newmoon Tirgwystraff
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Oemek
Sun Oct 10, 2004 3:13 am
#3

Lately I've been getting into Ubese armor. I was wondering, I know that Composite armor can take loots such as Krayt stuff to improve its over all stats. What about for Ubese armor? what kind of loots can i look for, and what stats should i look for on the loots?



Oemek Siecas
The Green One
justapilgrim
Sun Oct 10, 2004 5:29 pm
#4

don't worry about it, jsut crank out as much as you can over 70% kinetic


If you must use enhancements, krayt scales or voritor scales to bump up kinetic are nice, but not really worth the time or effort



SkinnyManDo Businessman
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Searcher
Sun Oct 10, 2004 6:29 pm
#5

yep as long as your ubese is over 70% it is a waste of time and effort to look for ways to boost it's effectiveness.


Regards,



Izzit Alldat
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ZionHalcyon
Mon Oct 11, 2004 5:05 am
#6

Just an FYI to those on Radiant:


When I hit Master AS, You won't see any comments like the above two from me.


I will be dedicated to making every armor the best it can be, and will definitely NOT be calling research into such things "a waste of time".



I will be more dedicated to the art of armor crafting, than the mass production and sales of it.


Just an FYI - there is fairly soon going to be some new blood in town that's gonna shake things up.










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justapilgrim
Mon Oct 11, 2004 6:04 am
#7

before you slam the above two posters


I have gotten out of the mass produced industry


I make mabari, name another 12 pointer that does (btw my suits are NS enhanced 20% base and 54/7/44 total HAM for a suit)



SkinnyManDo Businessman
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vinterthoor
Mon Oct 11, 2004 2:38 pm
#8



ZionHalcyon wrote:
Just an FYI to those on Radiant:
When I hit Master AS, You won't see any comments like the above two from me.
I will be dedicated to making every armor the best it can be, and will definitely NOT be calling research into such things "a waste of time".
I will be more dedicated to the art of armor crafting, than the mass production and sales of it.
Just an FYI - there is fairly soon going to be some new blood in town that's gonna shake things up.






I kind of like your spirit but the "art" of armor crafting will only be realized when encumbrance matters and npcs actually do more damage types than energy and kinetic (Like 99.99% do.). I've got a lot of quality mabari and tantel that just gathers dust bcs only two types of armor are usefull. And to that end, after the first few sets, and a couple of favours for friends and guildies, doing anything better than the standard 70X for ubese and 80 80 70 for comp, just doesn't seem worth it 90% of the time.



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Tirgwystraff
Mon Oct 11, 2004 5:20 pm
#9

I used 4% krayt scales and 4% voritor scales to boost mine to 80% kinetic. It sells for more than a simple 70% plus. More than enough to make up the cost of the scales, in fact.

And Skinny -Do, the day after I got 12 experimentation points, did I make ubese? Nope. Did I make comp? Nope. I made Maberi. Why? Because my resources for segments were so good, I couldn't max out the base with 10 points. I wanted to see what was possible. I broke 30% base, without loot pieces. I sold krayt maberi as well, since there weren't as many stun weapons in play at the time. People liked getting 14/13/9 gloves to replace compositebracers and gloves for PvP. It is still my favorite armor. You'll find most maberi smiths are easily breaking 20% base. Intrepid has had several decent spawns of bronzium lately, but none quite as good as Ekaine. ( currently some 900+oq 600+ sr in spawn right now, about 150 points less than Ekaine).



Newmoon Tirgwystraff
Resident of Mr. Ploppy's Turtle-Flavored Ice Cream Kingdom
" English doesn't borrow from other languages. English follows other languages down dark alleys, knocks them over, and goes through their pockets for loose grammer. "
justapilgrim
Tue Oct 12, 2004 3:25 am
#10

personally I like my 0/0/0 HAM 20% base mabari gloves and boots



SkinnyManDo Businessman
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Ainwyn
Tue Oct 12, 2004 7:02 am
#11

I am one of the rare rare rare 12pt'ers who makes -all- armors and sells them.

I have been making Ubese with the -10 NS shards and the encumbrance is rather nice. 76%kinetic with 217/278/336 total HAM. Since the shards are the common ones, they're easier to find for cheap prices or you might even have people "dump" them on you *chuckle*.

Oh... and my partner has been using the common Rancor segments (the ones which are 12%base) for Padded belts with exceptional condition. The resistance stats on the belts don't matter since they don't protect, but the condition means it will go through more deaths *laugh*. It was a use I wouldn't even have thought. His main is a melee'er and he's only just taken up AS more as a hobby (2nd character), so he was thinking in a different direction. Fresh eyes.



Tess (Ainwyn) Dle'kkar
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Tirgwystraff
Tue Oct 12, 2004 11:17 pm
#12






Ainwyn wrote:

Oh... and my partner has been using the common Rancor segments (the ones which are 12%base) for Padded belts with exceptional condition. The resistance stats on the belts don't matter since they don't protect, but the condition means it will go through more deaths *laugh*. It was a use I wouldn't even have thought. His main is a melee'er and he's only just taken up AS more as a hobby (2nd character), so he was thinking in a different direction. Fresh eyes.





How does it go through more deaths? 1% is 1%, reguardless of the starting number. In other words, 1000/1000 condition and 10000/10000 condition will both last 100 insured non-PvP deaths.



Newmoon Tirgwystraff
Resident of Mr. Ploppy's Turtle-Flavored Ice Cream Kingdom
" English doesn't borrow from other languages. English follows other languages down dark alleys, knocks them over, and goes through their pockets for loose grammer. "
hopnasty
Wed Oct 13, 2004 12:08 am
#13






ZionHalcyon wrote:

Just an FYI to those on Radiant:


When I hit Master AS, You won't see any comments like the above two from me.


I will be dedicated to making every armor the best it can be, and will definitely NOT be calling research into such things "a waste of time".



I will be more dedicated to the art of armor crafting, than the mass production and sales of it.


Just an FYI - there is fairly soon going to be some new blood in town that's gonna shake things up.














Welcome to the Armorsmith gang. I caution you, however, you will not find many buyers for anything other than Composite, Ubese, and some Padded. A majority of people only want "the best" protection they can get. The minority are the people who are more practical and research the pros and cons of the other various armor types. And an even smaller majority purchase armor for "looks".


Let's put it this way...


200customers want Composite.


50 customers want Ubese


25 customers want Padded


10 customers want "Other"


If you concentrate on Mabari, Chitin or even Padded and gathering all the crazy organic resources needed to produce them (I'm talking about the adv.segments, not the crappy regular segments) You'll go crazy trying to keep up with demand on Composite becuase they will sell out. Trust me. Burnout will happen. Look at Sena. She made every armor and even had the patience to handle custom orders (which included above armor types because she only really produced Composite & Ubese en masse). Where is she now? On extended vacation....


I'm not trying to dissuade you from doing what you want. I'm just offering a warning. There's a reason armorsmiths focus on Composite & Ubese. Since you're haven't been an Armorsmith before, you have no idea the amount of resources you have to track, gathering hides, /tellhell, etc. It's not as easy as it's all cracked up to be. Good Luck!





Shion
Master Armorsmith
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