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Thread: Solution For Getting Vendor Nerf Dropped

Tuanga
Fri Nov 07, 2003 9:43 pm
#1


I cancelled my accounts at the beginning of the month, and decisions like this and the combat balance delay keep reassuring me that I made the right decision. The dev team obviously doesn't have the planning and decision making skills to take this game in the right direction. Even if this doesn't make it to live, the idea was still there, and obviously not thought out.

Message Edited by Tuanga on 08-08-2004 10:50 PM



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Sorackles
Sat Aug 07, 2004 10:22 pm
#2

Cancel your accounts.

This is not another thread telling all the whiners to grow up. This is a serious thread where all crafters should unite and cancel their accounts to this game. It might make the people over at SOE sit up and take notice. If they all of a sudden see 50% of their customer base cancel their accounts, someone is going to want to know why the hell that happened.

I'm tired of getting these dumbass ideas thrown to us to see our reactions. We can always start up our account again when these changes get dropped. But it's time to hit them where it hurts. The bottom line.



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Ciirybeccaskyr
Sat Aug 07, 2004 10:24 pm
#3

both accounts are cancledalong with several friends and many others on the way



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Ciirybeccaskyr
Sat Aug 07, 2004 10:28 pm
#4

does anyone else remember the TEMPERARY reduction in house storage limits? this stupid poorly planed and alff assed implimentation of this nerf somehow reminds me of this and all the other major screwups of the devs in there ongoing search for the perfect way to destroy the player driven economy



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justapilgrim
Sun Aug 08, 2004 2:28 am
#5

they pulled those notes


no one knows what is going live


remember the crafting changes that lasted 1 day after the outcry? Is there an outcry now?


I think those vendor limits will be adjusted. Why cancel for a change that may not even be implemented. I am betting that they listen to us, and adjust those numbers, and it won't be so bad. If all the AS do leave, then good, more business for those of us that are still having fun.





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Sorackles
Sun Aug 08, 2004 7:00 am
#6

Thanks for the one star. Obviously from someone that has no idea what the propsed changes will do to the economy.



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Ciirybeccaskyr
Sun Aug 08, 2004 10:03 am
#7






justapilgrim wrote:

they pulled those notes


no one knows what is going live


remember the crafting changes that lasted 1 day after the outcry? Is there an outcry now?


I think those vendor limits will be adjusted. Why cancel for a change that may not even be implemented. I am betting that they listen to us, and adjust those numbers, and it won't be so bad. If all the AS do leave, then good, more business for those of us that are still having fun.










Canceling has no effect on your game play it just is the strongest way posible of sending our message if when your prepaid time runs out you can always pay for more or go back to letting SOE snake it from your account every month



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owako
Sun Aug 08, 2004 10:48 am
#8


justapilgrim wrote:
they pulled those notes
no one knows what is going live
remember the crafting changes that lasted 1 day after the outcry? Is there an outcry now?
I think those vendor limits will be adjusted. Why cancel for a change that may not even be implemented. I am betting that they listen to us, and adjust those numbers, and it won't be so bad. If all the AS do leave, then good, more business for those of us that are still having fun.



People are pissed for two reasons. The first is the craptacular nerf itself, just the stupidity of it. The second is more fundamental. Its basicly confirmed a lot of peoples suspecions that the DEVs put next to no though into what their changes will do.

Message Edited by owako on 08-08-2004 10:48 AM



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SimDroid
Sun Aug 08, 2004 11:34 am
#9

[rant]

You people are stupid. This is not OUR game. This game is property of one Sony Online Entertainment (SOE). They can do whatever they want to it and we can do nothing but just deal with it. So what if 50% of SWG players quit? what will anyone care? This game is not SOE's only source of income.


You all sound like a bunch of 7-year-old girls... "You're not playing the way that I want to, so I'm quitting... and I'm not your friend anymore". GET OVER IT! If you don't want to play then don't, but leave the forums too. No one wants to hear complaining! (Irony... what am I doing?) You know, if things had been like this from day 1 no one would have said a word in opposition. Don't believe me? Where's the uproar about the ridiculous 20-item limit on the bazaar?

[/rant]


Ya know, some people never change...



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owako
Sun Aug 08, 2004 12:12 pm
#10

They delayed the combat revamp for this crap? Really, what kind of crap is this. They had to know this would severly piss off a large amount of people.

Oh, I forgot, everyone is happy with the game and forum posters are a tiny minority that they don't care about.



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Sevardos
Sun Aug 08, 2004 1:15 pm
#11






SimDroid wrote:

[rant]

You people are stupid. This is not OUR game. This game is property of one Sony Online Entertainment (SOE). They can do whatever they want to it and we can do nothing but just deal with it. So what if 50% of SWG players quit? what will anyone care? This game is not SOE's only source of income.


You all sound like a bunch of 7-year-old girls... "You're not playing the way that I want to, so I'm quitting... and I'm not your friend anymore". GET OVER IT! If you don't want to play then don't, but leave the forums too. No one wants to hear complaining! (Irony... what am I doing?) You know, if things had been like this from day 1 no one would have said a word in opposition. Don't believe me? Where's the uproar about the ridiculous 20-item limit on the bazaar?

[/rant]


Ya know, some people never change...







Ya know something, I've now seen 2 of these lame posts of yours. Yes it is SOE's game but guess what ... I'M ALSO A BLOODY PAYING CUSTOMER AND HAVE EVERY RIGHT TO VOICE MY ISSUES IF THEY ARE MAKING A CHANGE THAT EFFECTS MY ENJOYMENT OF IT! Would you remain quiet if you purchased tickets to see a movie and then once you sit down, they decide to change the movie? It's their theatre, it's a private property, they can view whatever movie they want.,


I can't control what they do. But I can control where my money goes. And your statement about 'other sources of income that SOE has' and 'they don't care if 50% quit' is more of a childish and moronic statement that the ones you've been deriding.


Why don't you get off your high horse and be part of the solution instead of part of the problem. There is a difference between whining/complaining and expressing grievances. The protest of the change is expressinga grievance. You, are whining.






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LORDFERG666
Sun Aug 08, 2004 2:12 pm
#12

I agree that this change will be severly damaging for crafters and merchants, but I agree with skinny, after this uproar and since they pulled the thread they will change it or pull it completly. What seems wierd to me is they didn't give us a reason, they just annonced it without backing it up. I mean there must be some reason. To play devils advocate here the devs may do things without listening to us but they must be doing it for someone, it will make most likly make armor, other crafted things, and even resources more expensive, but maybe thats what they wanted? I don't know but I guess my point is why didn't the tell us why they wanted to nerf merchants? And with every profession having something that is broken or otherwise needs improvment, why did they nerf something no one complains about?
IMO



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SimDroid
Sun Aug 08, 2004 3:28 pm
#13








Sevardos wrote:


Ya know something, I've now seen 2 of these lame posts of yours. Yes it is SOE's game but guess what ... I'M ALSO A BLOODY PAYING CUSTOMER AND HAVE EVERY RIGHT TO VOICE MY ISSUES IF THEY ARE MAKING A CHANGE THAT EFFECTS MY ENJOYMENT OF IT! Would you remain quiet if you purchased tickets to see a movie and then once you sit down, they decide to change the movie? It's their theatre, it's a private property, they can view whatever movie they want.,


This is not only a bad comparrison, it's also illegal. When I buy a ticket to see movie X I have a legal contract to see movie X. If I get in the theater and they show movie Z then I am legally entitled to get my money back. To even try to compare this situation to what is happening in SWG is to say that you are mad because you are a paying customer for SWG but instead you are being given Everquest. If that were the case then you would have every right to be upset and want what you are paying for.


To even be able to use this illistration to compare a movie to SWG you would have to say that you bought tickets for a movie and durring production of the movie the director decided to change a part of it. There's nothing that says that you have to like the change, but you have no control over it occuring. It's not your movie. You paid to watch the movie. N one said you had to like it, or that you had to pay to see it again.


I can't control what they do.But I can control where my money goes.


Very True


And your statement about 'other sources of income that SOE has' and 'they don't care if 50% quit' is more of a childish and moronic statement that the ones you've been deriding.


Let me see... I have a list of the games that SOE produces at thetop of these message boards... I count 10 other games up there, one of them supposedly to be the biggest MMORPG ever when it is released to the public. It seems to me from that alone that SOE has PLENTY of other income.


Why don't you get off your high horse and be part of the solution instead of part of the problem.


Explain to me what this problem is.


There is a difference between whining/complaining and expressing grievances. The protest of the change is expressinga grievance. You, are whining.


Ellaborate on this, if you will. I honestly don't see much of a difference.












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