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Thread: Wanderhome smiths can you verify energy layer cap has been reached?
Turkina wrote:
My bet is they'll only get 8188 just like us
I hope not
maiby they guy had an expetional assembly what happens lot more these days.... I had it last week on compo chest piece dan did get 100% on the condition normal hit 95%.. shame on a layer schematic it shoud be very ubber
WittyNewt wrote:
Turkina wrote:
My bet is they'll only get 8188 just like us
I hope not
Message Edited by Turkina on 09-21-2005 07:09 PM
Turkina wrote:
Problem is, to my belief, unless every resource stat hits either 1000 or the gated cap, layers will never hit +100. They'll always be 99.9 or less. I guess it comes down to which of our theories is correct with regards to the rounding down of figures to the nearest whole number. If they round down to 99, just like what seems to happen to my theoretical 99.4% layers, then they'll always drop 12 points to 8188.
Feodeath wrote:
Well that is nice, but my run I am on right now on Flurry I will be making after completion of armor my energy resistance will be 8357. Before put in armor as a core my energy resistance is 7957. I will post a screenie after the factory finishes. I just wanted to bust the 8300 mark on my energy layered armor. Of course this is recon armor so don't know what it would be in my battle and assualt I will have to try it out on my next run.
I have to apologize in advance for this remark, but...
Yeah, right. I am indeed looking forward to seeing that screenshot.
FYI, you will not hit above 8200.
To elaborate, and get off my high horse at the same time, adding 400 to core resists to calculate final armor resist only works with unlayered armor. I am not completely sure of how to calculate it based on the core protection values, but a safe way to go by is
base_armor_resist + 12 * layer_experimental_value.
So quad energy layered (98% layers) base capped recon armor would be 8186 (7000+12*98) energy protection.
K here is the screenshot of some I made the other day and some I made today. If you notice the one made the other day started at 7782 and when made it ended up as 8137. So this is weird, cause when I made it before it just added 400 straight.
http://www.imagedump.com/index.cgi?pick=get&tp=315657
Now the second one started out as 7957 and ended up as 8159. So can you or anyone explain this to me. And also I sent out a email to my guild to see if someone can get a screenshot of the armor I made that hit 8257. Cause the pieces that I had in my house has been changed to 8137 also. And I can have them come on here and post that they saw it at 8257 before today. I swear I am not lieing to you. I wouldn't do that.
http://www.imagedump.com/index.cgi?pick=get&tp=315659
Feodeath wrote:
Ok well I just got on and made some armor, And I have made armor that went over 8200. Now when I make it, it is only adding 200 to the final product compared to the 400 it was before. And I will supply screenshots in alittle bit. I don't get this cause now it is only 200 to final product when it was 400 before. I made some just the other day and it was still 400 added, now when I sign on it is only 200. Did they change this and if so then when?
Let me guess, your 400 adder stuff had a core elemental stat of less than 5600 and the new stuff has a core elemental stat of around 5800 right? This is the way it works. You must think of unlayered cores and layers as separate things. The maximum stats for unlayered recon armor are 5000K 7000E 6000B.The maximum layer is 100, 12 layers to a advanced core to give 1200 bonus on top of your 7000E is 8200, thats the hard cap, no ifs or buts
Ill spell out the example a bit more with numbers.
You previous cores were say 4500K 6500E 5500B. You did the final combine and got a result of 4900K 6900E 5900B.
Ok. you get some better segment and core resources and can now make 4800K 6800E 5800B cores. You do the final combine and still only get 5000K 7000E 6000B. Not surprising since thats the cap, however notice that you only got 200 bonus.
Now, lets take your layers, from the limited stats you have posted I have guessed your final combine gives 8157 energy and so your layer stats are 1157 divided by 12 = 96.4, good layers.
One final point, there is no point in making a core with greater than a 5600 base. Tone down your resoruce mix at either segment or core level, use a few less good resources, save the good stuff. This way you will take maximum advantage of teh 400 adder at the final combine stage.
Finally, read this thread
http://forums.station.sony.com/swg/board/message?board.id=armorsmith&message.id=103706
Feodeath wrote:
K here is the screenshot of some I made the other day and some I made today. If you notice the one made the other day started at 7782 and when made it ended up as 8137. So this is weird, cause when I made it before it just added 400 straight.
http://www.imagedump.com/index.cgi?pick=get&tp=315657
Now the second one started out as 7957 and ended up as 8159. So can you or anyone explain this to me. And also I sent out a email to my guild to see if someone can get a screenshot of the armor I made that hit 8257. Cause the pieces that I had in my house has been changed to 8137 also. And I can have them come on here and post that they saw it at 8257 before today. I swear I am not lieing to you. I wouldn't do that.
http://www.imagedump.com/index.cgi?pick=get&tp=315659
So maybe they did something screwy on Flurry, hey they do a lot of things I don't understand. Sorry not good at making clickies.