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Thread: 14 point armorsmith

Asir_SWG
Thu Aug 19, 2004 9:15 am
#1


Has there been a definitive answer as to what the situation will be with force sensitive skills???


A) 14 points

B) 12 points from either tapes or FS skills

C) 12 points from tapes - nothing from FS skills


I know there has been talk - but still I have seen no answer that I can trust 100%



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Co-valent
Thu Aug 19, 2004 9:19 am
#2

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Blimigerite
Thu Aug 19, 2004 9:30 am
#3

FS will be like eating crafting food and drink for every experiment.

No extra points, just better results from those points.



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Asir_SWG
Thu Aug 19, 2004 9:45 am
#4


Good - I hope so....


I have just spent 28.5 million getting armor experimentation - did not want it to become worthless overnight!


Anyway - only 5 more points to get - but that will be cheap as it can be 3 +1's and a +2


Ta



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AtPlay
Thu Aug 19, 2004 2:17 pm
#5



jamesgoddard wrote:
Good - I hope so....
I have just spent 28.5 million getting armor experimentation - did not want it to become worthless overnight!
Anyway - only 5 more points to get - but that will be cheap as it can be 3 +1's and a +2
Ta




Well, for one, its not an "I hope so..." kind of situation. Its live and has been live since publish 9. And Im not quite sure why you would think all tapes you spent would become worthless...there would still be a big difference between 12pt smiths and 14pt smiths.



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Asir_SWG
Thu Aug 19, 2004 4:14 pm
#6


The worthless bit was if the FS skills gave you 12 points - but would not stack with tapes - everyone is 12 points and no need for tapes....


Anyway - stupid me for not remembering that pub 9 brought it in!!??!!



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Areriye
Thu Aug 19, 2004 4:46 pm
#7

Okay, reading this thread confused me.


If I have the FS experimentation line, I gain NO points? Or is 12 points the most experimentation points I will ever have?


Right now, for example, I have +11 in wearable armor experimentation mods, so I have the extra point above master. If I get the FS line for another +20, will I cap at 12 total points with some extra mods for successful experimentation?



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AtPlay
Thu Aug 19, 2004 5:43 pm
#8

The FS experimentation line will just increase the chance of an "Amazing Success." It does not grant any additional points.



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Meplorium
Thu Aug 19, 2004 5:50 pm
#9

Basically it makes getting an amazing easier. Right now you make 10-20 layers trying to get all 12points to be amazing successes. With the FS exp it might be more like 5-10 layers or so. Just guessing at those numbers.


The real advantage is when using loot drops. You have a better chance at getting them good since you can't do the 10-20 tries to be perfect with it. With just 10 points and great successes, you get a gain of 70%. WithFS expyou are looking at maybe 75%. With 12 points you get 84% with great, with FS exp more like 90%. It is almost like getting an extra point, but not quite. Again numbers aren't exact, just as an example to get a feel to what to expect.



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TalynMox
Thu Aug 19, 2004 7:44 pm
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Meplorium wrote:
Basically it makes getting an amazing easier. Right now you make 10-20 layers trying to get all 12points to be amazing successes. With the FS exp it might be more like 5-10 layers or so. Just guessing at those numbers.



Actually, that guess is pretty darn close to the results I get with Senno . It takes me approximately 10 tries to craft a Layer with all amazing successes.
So, in essence, what the others have said is exactly right: FS crafting boosts your chances of getting amazings, just like having a permanent Bespin Port enhancement. The other thing to note is that Bespin Port DOES stack with this bonus (as you would expect) - so with some luck I can max that Layer in around 5 tries instead of 10 by using Port as well .

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AubDogg83
Fri Aug 20, 2004 12:31 am
#11






Blimigerite wrote:

FS will be like eating crafting food and drink for every experiment.

No extra points, just better results from those points.






even this would give such an advantage, that it would be worth grinding all that xp just to get the force exp tree




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Droci
Fri Aug 20, 2004 4:27 am
#12

not possible, teh FS skills just increases amazing essentially



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joined42904
Fri Aug 20, 2004 9:16 am
#13

How are you getting all amazings on your layers in 10-20 tries? Does amazing get easier as you get more tapes and more points?


Because I sometimes craft a lot of them in a research center and don't get all that many amazings. And Bespin Port fills my stomach so I can't keep using it for a while....



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