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Thread: merchant nerf changes in TC, I like it
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justapilgrim
Mon Aug 16, 2004 7:43 pm
#1
from TC, no one had posted here so I did
As you know, on August 6th, we put some preliminary changes to the Vendors on Test Center. These changes are part of the commodity server enhancements that we have pushed out. We apologize for any anxiety you may have experienced, but I’m glad to announce we’ve been able to make some good changes to the Vendor limits. While we can’t make the Vendor limits aggregate, we have doubled the number of Vendors merchants can acquire and also increased the amount of Artisan Vendors.
The revised Vendor limits are as follows:
Artisan Business III: Get (1) Vendor, that will hold (100) items, for a total of (100) items for all vendors
Artisan Business IV: Get (2) Vendor, that will hold (100) items, for a total of (200) items for all vendors
Merchant Novice: Get (3) Vendors, that will hold (250) items, for a total of (750) items for all vendors
Merchant Management I: Get (4) Vendors, that will hold (250) items, for a total of (1000) items for all vendors
Merchant Efficiency I: Get (5) Vendors, that will hold (250) items, for a total of (1250) items for all vendors
Merchant Management II: Get (6) Vendors, that will hold (250) items, for a total of (1500) items for all vendors
Merchant Efficiency II: Get (7) Vendors, that will hold (250) items, for a total of (1750) items for all vendors
Merchant Management III: Get (8) Vendors, that will hold (250) items, for a total of (2000) items for all vendors
Merchant Efficiency III: Get (9) Vendors, that will hold (250) items, for a total of (2250) items for all vendors
Merchant Management IV: Get (10) Vendors, that will hold (250) items, for a total of (2500) items for all vendors
Merchant Efficiency IV: Get (11) Vendors, that will hold (250) items, for a total of (2750) items for all vendors
Master Merchant: Get (12) Vendors, that will hold (250) items, for a total of (3000) items for all vendors
The revised Vendor limits are as follows:
Artisan Business III: Get (1) Vendor, that will hold (100) items, for a total of (100) items for all vendors
Artisan Business IV: Get (2) Vendor, that will hold (100) items, for a total of (200) items for all vendors
Merchant Novice: Get (3) Vendors, that will hold (250) items, for a total of (750) items for all vendors
Merchant Management I: Get (4) Vendors, that will hold (250) items, for a total of (1000) items for all vendors
Merchant Efficiency I: Get (5) Vendors, that will hold (250) items, for a total of (1250) items for all vendors
Merchant Management II: Get (6) Vendors, that will hold (250) items, for a total of (1500) items for all vendors
Merchant Efficiency II: Get (7) Vendors, that will hold (250) items, for a total of (1750) items for all vendors
Merchant Management III: Get (8) Vendors, that will hold (250) items, for a total of (2000) items for all vendors
Merchant Efficiency III: Get (9) Vendors, that will hold (250) items, for a total of (2250) items for all vendors
Merchant Management IV: Get (10) Vendors, that will hold (250) items, for a total of (2500) items for all vendors
Merchant Efficiency IV: Get (11) Vendors, that will hold (250) items, for a total of (2750) items for all vendors
Master Merchant: Get (12) Vendors, that will hold (250) items, for a total of (3000) items for all vendors
we can now have up to 12 vendors with one toon
I think the 250 items per vendor is fair, I will be adding several different armor vendors in my shop to spread it out across more vendors
good stuff
SkinnyManDo
Armor Sensei, tailor, Rifleman, Businessman, RIS specialist, 12 exp points
New vendor:> Prosperity (formerly known as Bartertown) at prosperity crafters mall, right by the x-wing
Visit the Armor Dojo: New Alderaan Dant4219 -2930, 4 armor vendors, resources (doc, AS and grind), tailor crates, Droids by Iciomax, BE tissues by Gatao, deeds/furniture by Butterbean and Jewelia, Weapons by Shobuck, and the Powerball weekly lottery,
Kung Fu Armor:80% kin 69% base (375k) Kung Fu Light: 80% kin 62% base(375k)Yokozuna Composite:80% energy 62% base 4% stun and superlight(425k) Wookie Hunting Armor (NEW) 80% kin 58-62% base or 37% stun/75% kin/58% base (prices vary) 75% ubese, psgs, mabari belts, ubese shirts all in plentiful supply. *Black Mountain and Ceremonial in limited supply*
Blimigerite
Mon Aug 16, 2004 7:51 pm
#2
TH nerfed the devs.
12 Vendors seems like a ton but I'll be able to work with that.
This means twice as many ugly vendors have to die to get a good looking one
I like the changes in general now that they raised the cap.
12 Vendors seems like a ton but I'll be able to work with that.
This means twice as many ugly vendors have to die to get a good looking one
I like the changes in general now that they raised the cap.
Ciirybeccaskyr
Mon Aug 16, 2004 7:55 pm
#3
Still kills merchant tents and Sliced vendors not to mention tailors
justapilgrim
Mon Aug 16, 2004 8:01 pm
#4
another update
From this thread
http://forums.station.sony.com/swg/board/message?board.id=in_testing&message.id=25338#M25338
Rubicon49BC wrote:
Simple database logic.
If you have 1 vendor with 3000 items, each time someone accesses the vendor, all 3000 items must be loaded, leading to strain on database. With 250 limit per vendor, database strain is much lower. Strain is not just in how much is in database, but how much must be loaded in each time.
Simple database logic.
If you have 1 vendor with 3000 items, each time someone accesses the vendor, all 3000 items must be loaded, leading to strain on database. With 250 limit per vendor, database strain is much lower. Strain is not just in how much is in database, but how much must be loaded in each time.
This isn't a perfect technical explanation, but in terms of simplicity, its good enough for the sake of discussion
The way the limits have been implemented have a lot to do with the commodity server back end changes.
yea it doesnt help sliced vendors, tailors or merchant tents
however a tailor can still do good if the put their componets in backpacks (those that sell runs of cloth one crate at a time) and spread their collections over 12 vendors
ya a tailor would take up an entire mall by themselves, but is that a bad thing? that isnt for this forum
I can live with a 250 item limit, and also am glad I can pick up a vendor or 5 with some extra skill points
SkinnyManDo
Armor Sensei, tailor, Rifleman, Businessman, RIS specialist, 12 exp points
New vendor:> Prosperity (formerly known as Bartertown) at prosperity crafters mall, right by the x-wing
Visit the Armor Dojo: New Alderaan Dant4219 -2930, 4 armor vendors, resources (doc, AS and grind), tailor crates, Droids by Iciomax, BE tissues by Gatao, deeds/furniture by Butterbean and Jewelia, Weapons by Shobuck, and the Powerball weekly lottery,
Kung Fu Armor:80% kin 69% base (375k) Kung Fu Light: 80% kin 62% base(375k)Yokozuna Composite:80% energy 62% base 4% stun and superlight(425k) Wookie Hunting Armor (NEW) 80% kin 58-62% base or 37% stun/75% kin/58% base (prices vary) 75% ubese, psgs, mabari belts, ubese shirts all in plentiful supply. *Black Mountain and Ceremonial in limited supply*
Fobi
Mon Aug 16, 2004 8:20 pm
#5
this merchant nerf looks okay whoever came up with this one might got something i could work with this
Kryxal
Mon Aug 16, 2004 11:17 pm
#6
There's this, at least ... Novice Merchant is able to sell a lot (though nothing compared to Master), but isn't that much harder than Bus 3 to get...
RonneLykell
Tue Aug 17, 2004 5:48 am
#7
Still doesn't seem to be much of a reason to get Master Merchant...why not just cap efficiency and management for 11 of them?
DoWei
Tue Aug 17, 2004 6:21 am
#8
It would still be nice if you could shift items and have a total number of items instead of a total per vendor. That way if I had a spot in a hot area, maybe I would put an empty vendor in the basement just to have double the capacity on another vendor. I'm sure that would probably complicate things further though. Quite a drastic change to more than double the number of items...and double the number of vendors...isn't it?
DirthNader
Tue Aug 17, 2004 8:29 am
#9
Horrible. I don't want my tent packed with 12 vendors just to sell my current volume.
Make the total items listable and the total number of vendors seperate numbers, and then you're talking.
f33d84ck
Tue Aug 17, 2004 10:41 am
#10
pretty sure Master Merchants get 300 items per vendor. Am I wrong on this now?
Silvadeus
Tue Aug 17, 2004 10:50 am
#11
f33d84ck wrote:
pretty sure Master Merchants get 300 items per vendor. Am I wrong on this now?
think its 250...
anyway about the change... this is actually good for me, because I was wanting to add several vendors to several different malls, and it was begining to burden me because I was going to need to hire someone to sell my goods... now thats all fixed
-Asmodeus-
Tue Aug 17, 2004 11:15 am
#12
f33d84ck wrote:
pretty sure Master Merchants get 300 items per vendor. Am I wrong on this now?
That is correct, stated by TH himself. Master Mechant will recieve that extra of 50 per vendor, like it really makes a difference LOL.
At least I can live with the 250 per and only need to have managment 2 to keep my 6 vendors, woot so I can drop Managment 3 and 4 and have 5 extra points to do nothing with..... Oh boy !
JaatoWaals
Tue Aug 17, 2004 11:44 am
#13
That is correct. As master merchant you'll be able to have 12 vendors with 300 items each on them, for a total of 3600 items, as compared to 2750 at 4/4/4/4.
He's also posted that the concept of an aggregate limit, while a good one, is not technically feasible.
Message Edited by JaatoWaals on 08-17-2004 02:45 PM
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