Armorsmith Archive

• Snow Trooper Armor : Base Resistances = Composite.
  
  
  
  • Special Protection = Cold.
    
  • Vulnerability = Heat , Restraint.
  
  
• Regular Storm Trooper Armor : Base Resistances = Composite.
  
  
  
  • Special Protection = Stun.
    
  • Vulnerability = Blast , Restraint
  
  
• Storm Trooper Armor (Black) : Base Resistances = Composite.
  
  
  
  • Special Protection = Blast
    
  • Vulnerability = Acid , Restraint
  
  
• Red Imperial Guard Armor : Base Resistances = Composite.
  
  
  
  • Special Protection = Heat
    
  • Vulnerability = Cold , Restraint
  
  
• Imperial Scout Armor ( Jungle ) : Base Resistances = Composite.
  
  
  
  • Special Protection = Acid
    
  • Vulnerability = Electricity , Restraint
  
  
• Mandalorian Armor ( Rare ) : Base resistances would be at 70%
  
  
  
  • Special Protection = None
    
  • Vulnerability = None


• Composite Armor would be changed to work as follows:




• Special Protection = Electricity


• Vulnerability = Stun, Restraint

Restraint Damage would be moved to Jedi only damage and the only armor in game with the ability to protect against it would be Mandalorian Armor. To balance it out every other armor could take special cortosis armorweave segments to move Restraint out of a vulnerability to a special protection much like stun damage is done.

The Rebels would have their own faction specific armor and each of these items would be craftable by armorsmiths. This would put equal emphasis on all weapon damage types so that people wont feel the need to only seek out stun damage weaponry.

I think you're putting to much emphasis on the heaviest armor types. Considering that you can slice composite base up to 90%, everyone would run around in layered whatever-type-of-armor, only vulnerable to restraint.

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mka wrote:

I think you're putting to much emphasis on the heaviest armor types. Considering that you can slice composite base up to 90%, everyone would run around in layered whatever-type-of-armor, only vulnerable to restraint.

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Shortey wrote:

Excellent emphasis on the Rebel Marine Armor...

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That's because the Rebel Conehead Armor is greater than all....

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Borwin wrote:

Restraint Damage would be moved to Jedi only damage and the only armor in game with the ability to protect against it would be Mandalorian Armor. To balance it out every other armor could take special cortosis armorweave segments to move Restraint out of a vulnerability to a special protection much like stun damage is done.

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Ugh. Why so many people think that sabers should be unresistable to normal armor is beyond me. This is an RPG - the abilites of the saber are represented by the incredible stats that a quality fifth gen has, and by the AP2 rating (AP3 would make sense though).

Sure sabers cut through just about anything in the films, but I don't remember seeing anyone in the movies survive a shot to the chest or head, armor or not. Sabers do more damage than anything else in SWG, and making them some odd form of damage that can't be resisted except through extraordinary means is simply giving the Jedi an "I win" button for any engagement they enter.

There are enough Jedi on their own forums clammoring for that "I win" button, we don't need it in ours. If you think Jedi are not powerful, I encourage you to hunt with a Gaurdian. I have, and frankly they're amazing in both PvE and PvP.

Message Edited by DirthNader on 04-11-2004 08:53 AM

The artist formerly known as Ittov

Sorry to "derail" your post by pointing out that you're trying to sneak a suggestion to give Jedi unresistable damage to Jedi into yet another post full of drivel about how a working profession needs to be revamped because the few people who choose to PvP can't find ways to kill each other without disease / poison.

I have no envy of Jedi. What's to envy? Yeah, they do insane damage (those calculations that break Jedi damage down to 60 per strike work for every other profession BTW, and LLC's and flamers don't have AP2, don't get pool specific hits, and don't have special attack damage mods as high as flurry. Outside of them being PvE gods, they suffer from the same PvP imbalances that every other class in the game does. The solution isn't to unbalance Jedi by giving them exemptions from armor resistance, it's to start from the ground up and rebalance PvP.

Armor is only part of the "problem", and the smallest part IMHO. Without buffs you wouldn't even be able to fit into most of the comp made today, let alone spam specials and have instant stat regen. Tack on to that the fact that some types of damage (poison / disease) co right through armor, and that none of the elite combat professions are in balance with each other (don't even bring in hybrids and stacking, that throws it out of balance even more) and you see why PvP is a joke (yet another reason I don't have Jedi envy - I don't PvP so they don't affect me).

Frankly, I'm sick to death of people pointing the finger at armor as the culprit for the sad state of PvP. I've been around since beta - people were bitching about combat imblance before the first doc buff was applied, before the first piece of comp was made, or before the first mind poison was chucked. People are always going to piss and moan about something in PvP, they always have. The PvE game is immensely better than it was before we refined armor and buffs to the point they are now, and if it hurts PvP, oh well. PvP'ers are going to complain anyway, why try to cater the game to the impossible pursuit of their happiness?

The artist formerly known as Ittov