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Thread: Why do I fail so much at master?
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IUFAN4LIFEUL
Sat Aug 07, 2004 5:27 pm
#1
So, I get an order for 9 different medium harvesters at BER 10 apeice. I start making these things, everything is fine and good. I am writing this after having over 10 HARVESTERS, TEN HARVESTERS have a failure in them. I am using a 15 tool, 38 station, and am a master. This is bull**edit**. Money is going down the drain... Masters should fail once every 1000 times. Do you see 1/2 buildings in the world fall down during construction????? NO, and this is StarWars, they are supposed to beadvanced.
ZenDragonMLS
Sat Aug 07, 2004 5:47 pm
#2
Make a schematic and make them in factories.
Go to a research city and do your crafting there.
Make sure your crafting tools aren't damaged by being uninsured when you get DBed.
Go to a research city and do your crafting there.
Make sure your crafting tools aren't damaged by being uninsured when you get DBed.
Pawlin
Sat Aug 07, 2004 5:53 pm
#3
What do you mean by "failure"? Do you mean you get poor experiment results?
If making them by hand I'd expect something in the range of 33% or less to come out with poor experimentation results. Might do better than that though.
But if you were trying to make 9 mediums and ended up with 10 sub-maximum BER in the process then thats pretty bad. WE all get streaks of bad luck once in a while though.
ZenDragonMLS
Sat Aug 07, 2004 6:41 pm
#4
Also, did you have Critical Failures or did you get great / amazing and they still came out less than BER10? If the latter, then you have some sub-standard components or resources in the final assembly.
What was the *percentage* that you experimented the "mining component" (e.g., light ore mining unit, fluidic drilling pump unit) to?
What are the *exact* resources, with their HR/SR/UT that you are using for your final assembly?
Tell us those things and we can help you better.
What was the *percentage* that you experimented the "mining component" (e.g., light ore mining unit, fluidic drilling pump unit) to?
What are the *exact* resources, with their HR/SR/UT that you are using for your final assembly?
Tell us those things and we can help you better.
Elyssa
Sat Aug 07, 2004 6:49 pm
#5
I've heard that it's also tied to the number of drall that have been killed, but I could be misinformed. 
lmicheles
Sun Aug 08, 2004 6:21 am
#6
ZenDragonMLS wrote:
Make a schematic and make them in factories.
Go to a research city and do your crafting there.
Make sure your crafting tools aren't damaged by being uninsured when you get DBed.
Woaw, wait - this is the first I've heard of this - but then again I'm still a 5 month noob. Does crafting in a research city really effect the results on crafting??? ACK! I don't have much trouble making harvesters, but I can't seem to top my highest result on my crafting stations, and they're not maxed at all. How does working in a research city help and should I be seeking one out for things? (My current town still doesn't have enough to start its city...ok we're not a town, we're a hamlet of 7 atm. lol!)
bluejanus
Sun Aug 08, 2004 11:24 pm
#7
IUFAN4LIFEUL wrote:
So, I get an order for 9 different medium harvesters at BER 10 apeice. I start making these things, everything is fine and good. I am writing this after having over 10 HARVESTERS, TEN HARVESTERS have a failure in them. I am using a 15 tool, 38 station, and am a master. This is bull**edit**. Money is going down the drain... Masters should fail once every 1000 times. Do you see 1/2 buildings in the world fall down during construction????? NO, and this is StarWars, they are supposed to beadvanced.
You can use tools that haven't been damaged by decay. Use a higher level crafting station. Use food buffs like Bespin Port. Work in a research center. Do factory runs. Get attachments for experimentation and assembly. Before one of the patches that reduces our critical failures (and loss of materials),I did have a streakabout that long of harvesters I was hand crafting and lost all the parts for.
I do all my harvester runs withschematics now. I makemost furniture, houses, and city structuresby hand.
Pawlin
Sun Aug 08, 2004 11:37 pm
#8
lmicheles wrote:
...Does crafting in a research city really effect the results on crafting??? ACK! I don't have much trouble making harvesters, but I can't seem to top my highest result on my crafting stations, and they're not maxed at all. How does working in a research city help and should I be seeking one out for things? ...
Research city will give you a higher rate of Great success and Amazing success results during experimentation.
It won't help you get higher BER harvesters or higher ratings on crafting stations. All it will do is give you a better chance of getting a good experiment result.
lmicheles
Mon Aug 09, 2004 3:53 am
#9
Thanks Pawlin - I'd hate to leave my comfy house to craft, but if it'll help me get to a +44 crafting station, it'll be well worth it. 
Pawlin
Mon Aug 09, 2004 10:15 am
#10
Just so this is clear..
Reseach city really won't give you a higher maximum result on a single line of experimentation.
For example: If you get +42 with all great / amazing success normally then research city won't get you any higher than +42. Research city will just make it easier to hit your maximum rather than getting any 'good success' or 'failure' etc. during experimentation.
If we were working with something that had multiple lines of experiment then more amazing successes would help us get better results over all. It can help get larger hopper sizes on harvesters, but you would have to work at it and its not a large benefit to do so. This really comes in handy with things like food, guns and armor that have more than one important line of experimentation.
e.g. if it normally takes you 7 experiment points to max out BER with a great success leaving 3 points for hopper then with amazing success during experimentation on BER you might be able to max BER with 6 points and then have 4 points to spend on hopper.
Fneegan
Mon Aug 09, 2004 11:50 am
#11
Wow - 10 harvesters with failures ?? I've never heard of it. I normally make heavies and I get maybe a 1 outta 10 or 15failure rate.
I think it's because your midiclorian levelmust be too high.
SkyfireDL
Mon Aug 09, 2004 8:39 pm
#12
Also, check your BattleFatigue. Not sure if it does affect the crafting and experimenting process, but heard it does. I make it a point to make sure I have zero BF before I open a crafting tool, just in case.
MagneticBob
Tue Aug 10, 2004 1:19 am
#13
i'm 3442 and today at a 30 station i was making 10 mediums for someone. two came out ber9 instead of 10, and i had at least 10 fluid pumps have unacceptable experimentation results. i had little to no BF and it was not in a research center.
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