Architect Archive

My equipment factory seems to work - it did two runs of 104 followed by a run using all eight of the resulting crates, but something odd happened: Readhttp://forums.station.sony.com/swg/board/message?board.id=droid_engineer&message.id=20831for more info...

Bug: When I purchase items from player's vendorsand try and retrieve the item it just sticks at the "retrieving item" message with the animated loading bar.

Workaround: If I close that message box by clicking the little "x" and then try and retrieve the same item again, it gets the item right away.

Has anyone tried making a ballot box lately? An architect friend of mine says it no longer appears in the crafting tool, but he still has the schematic.

I will continue to repost this list every week. marking off bugs that have been fixed and adding new ones. I will also try to include temporary work arounds for bugs that have workarounds. As Always please add any bugs or workarounds that I may have missed so they and be added to this list.

I also know that there have been several patches over the last weeks and that some of these issueshave been fixed while new issues have been added... I never go by what the devs state was fixed. I go by what the players themselves report. If I list something and you know FROM PERSONAL EXPERIENCE that it has in fact been fixed or reduced in frequency please post here and I will update it.

Please notice that I have added a purple catagory. Some if the issues I have listed have not been seen or reported in a long time .... I am highlighting these in purple to verify that they still exist. If anybody knows for sure if these still exist or if they have been fixed please post and let me know so i can update or remove them.

RED = ADDED

ORANGE = UPDATED

GREEN = ANGRY j/k = WORKAROUND

BLUE = CATAGORY

PURPLE = ABOUT TO BE DELETED

STRIKETHROUGH = FIXED

I. Crafting.

A. There is no UXP for deeds. (some report UXP will slow trickle in but you have to be really watching for it. I have never noticed any xp increase based on deeds I've sold and I do keep track of my xp because I am always calculating how much I need to obtain the next skill.)(Reported that we only get uxp if other architects craft from components we make. IF this is correct then I list this as an oversight or an error or a WHAA?!?!?)

B. Master architects only have +55 architect assembly and +55 architect experimentation (unless they are Mon Cal). Other craft professions either have +100 to these already or will receive them soon according to the In Development page.

C. Experimentation does nothing for architects, which essentially makes the entire Construction line worthless. Increasing durability does not reduce maintenance costs. Increasing efficiency on harvesters does not affect the sample rate.

D. Medium mineral, water and solar harvesters all take between 3-4k materials to make. Medium chemical and gas harvesters take 12k materials to make. The medium flora harvester (when it is possible to build) takes 21k materials, only 3000 less than the heavy flora harvester.(FIXED)

E. Resources in input hoppers on crafting stations are lost if the player gets disconnected or logs off.

F. Crafting stations used to give GCXP and were changed to give Structural XP, However thier available experimentation points still run off the artisan line instead of being switch to the architectural line. Personal harvestors are also affected like this. (Was this intentional or an oversight?)

G. Many folks are reporting that advancing up the furniture line appears to increase thier chance of critical failure on all Architect lines instead of decrease it. (This is unconfirmed but enough people have mentioned it for me to decide to list it as a possible bug.)

H. There are 2 separate Small Corellian House Style2 Floorplan2 deeds. They have different complexities and different wall module requirements. (The second is supposed to be generic.)

I. Critical failures leave the material in the craft tool and you have to back out of the tool and restart it. This is architect specific. Artisan items and other craftign items do not have this problem.(UPDATED)

(WORKAROUND) If you get a critical failure and the resources are stuck in your crafting tool. Do not back out. instead type the following commands. /nextcraftingstage, /nextcraftingstage,/nextcraftingstage and /createprototype. You will notice that your tool is now counting down even the the onscreen window is doing nothing.when its done the item will appear in your inventory.

J. When attacked while crafting, you have to cancel the crafting menu while it was initializing by clicking on the "X". After killing the creature, I can not craft anymore. Everytime I craft I get the message "Failed to start crafting session.

(WORKAROUND) type /stopcraftingsession

K. After the last big patch alot of people are reporting an increase in the amount of critical failures. This appears to only affect architects as I have not seen other crafters reporting the same thing. Failures are running in streaks of 3-5 with an overall rate of about 25%-50%.(UPDATED)

II. Harvesting.

A. During periods of server downtime, maintenance is used, but nothing is harvested and no power is used. This was very obvious during the 8 hour downtime one day. (We understand why this is the case but should it be?)

B. When you attempt to redeed harvesters that have run out of power it gives you the "hopper must be empty" message, even if the hopper is completely empty. Only seems to happen on harvestors that have run out of power.

(WORKAROUND) Place 1 power into the harvestor then you can redeed it.

III. Factories.

A. Problems with building Power Core Units in factories. You have to put in the resources for at least 4 to get 2 identical ones (required for PA hall). The rest of the resources just disappear.

(WORKAROUND) Some have reported that putting the materials in the order of crafting tool rather than factory ingredient list makes all the power cores.

B. Certain items made in a factory come out individually, not in a crate.(UPDATED)

C. The factory owner gets all factory xp, even if an admin loads a schematic.(Is this still an issue?)(UPDATED)

D. The factory must be loaded on someone's screen for the owner to get any xp at all.

E. Factories produce items MUCH slower than can be crafted by hand. Holocron posted that factories produce faster than hand crafting. (I hear there is some confusion about the post he stated this in. Regardless of what he meant by it a factory produced item should be made quicker than a hand crafted item.)(UPDATED)

F. At times items can not be removed from crates. Sometimes the count decrements by 1 and goes back up again. At other times, items can take up to an hour to appear in your pack. This seems to be tied to server or database lag, as switching sub servers or simply waiting fixes the problem. It can be a real pain however.(Is this still an Issue?)

G. Factories can not use items from crates as components. You must load them all by hand. (Intermittant)

H. When it was fixed so crates could be used in crafting .... all containers started showing up in the window. While this is better than not being able to use crated product it does tend to clutter up the crafting window.(UPDATED)

I. Factories shut down after making 100 items and do not work again unless you redeed them or wait for a server reset.

(WORKAROUND) Do runs for only 99 and be sure to use the exact number of resources you need.

J. Sometimes items cannot be pulled out of the hopper. Seems to affect items that are not crated.(ADDED)

IV. Furniture.

A. Cafe table 2 looks almost exactly the same as Dining Table aren't we already limited enough.

B. Multi spot furniture items such as couches only have one available spot to sit on.

(WORKAROUND) To sit on a Large bed, or make multi-user seats usable by multiple people, place Ottomans underneath them. In some cases, the ottoman will clip through the top of the seat cushions of the object, but in cases like the Large Bed (which cannot otherwise be sat on) they're invisible. This allows you to sit on the ottoman, with the appearance of sitting on the couch or bed.)

C. When multiple people sit on chairs/couches they ghost into each other.

D. Droid detection units do not function.

E. Light sources (except torch) do not function.

F. The master architect Armoire is the same as the Armoire you get at Furniture 2.

G. The round couch cannot be targeted once dropped in a house. (Intermittant)

H. Ballot Box Terminal is classified as a Bank Terminal. (Am told that the ballot box is supposed to be accessable as a bank terminal allowing people to access thier bank from thier House/PA. If this is the case is it not working correctly?)

I. Ballot Box Terminal is not made in the S&F tool kit. You need a DW&G kit and a PCS to use schematic. (Reported that this is now in the S&F tool kit however people only get 1 experimentation point)(UPDATED)

J. Ballot Box Terminal once placed cannot be picked up.

K. Ballot Box Polls only last 1 hour and can be changed by everyone.

L. Storage Containers do not have any functionality.

M. Couch from Furniture III has placement problems. Does not always respond to radial or slash commands.

N. There is only one type of tree you can make yet the schematic is labeled as style 1 which suggests there is more than one available style.

O. Sitting on chairs places the individual at the very edge of the chair and after a few seconds moves the player off the chair so he/she is sitting on thin air.

P. Bed Sizes are not accurate. Large beds are barely bigger than a small bed.

Q. No lay on bed ability.

R. Data Terminals are not functional.

S. Radial menu for rotating objects is reversed. Left is Right and Right is Left. Rotating furniture from the radial menu rotates it the opposite direction from using the /rotateFurniture command

V. Houses.

A. Balconies are not considered part of the house. Unable to place items in this location.

B. Curtains in Naboo houses have full collision applied. Makes it difficult to place furniture. (Is this still an issue?)

C. Incorrect house name in the confirmation box when paying maintenance. (Is this still an issue?)

D. You cannot place items on tables or at various levels in a home without learning how to play Tetris.

(WORKAROUND) To place items on tables, you need a house with stairs. Once you have that, you can drop the item on the stairs, then use the move forward/move back commands to walk the item over to the table. The item stays at the same Z coordinates the entire time (unless it runs into more stairs or something).

E. If you attempt to reclaim any deed and your inv is full the deed will vanish.

F. Signs for some generic houses float in the air out away from the building. (Am told this is generic house style 1-first one)(FIXED)

G. Archway between the first and second rooms in medium tatooine house doesn't allow furniture to pass through.

H. Tatooine Guild Hall sign is somewhat floating. Needs to be lowered about...a fourth of a foot...to be connecting to balcony.

I.Generic House Style 2 takes 2 extra structure modules, and needs a specialized crafting staiton (one in a house) to construct, even though the only difference between it and Floorplan 2 are the placement of the two rooms.

J. When attempting to place a furniture item against a wall (This has been done with the divan and the loveseat), after rotating it, and moving it, the furniture items dissappear inside the wall!! You can no longer see them, click on them, or anything, they are just gone!!

(WORKAROUND) With regards to items - mainly furniture being buried in the wall after rotated. Had someone accidentally bury a travel pack in the wall of my house and we retrieved it with the /pickup command. It might be worth trying. The syntax is: /pickup item_name

K. with my Medium Tatooine if I am on the balcony I "fall" through it periodically. When this happens all I see is a concrete slab in the ground. I cannot see my house walls at all or any furniture. I can move as though the walls are not there. Leaving the house makes it reappear again.

L. On my balcony I can never see anyone else that comes onto the balcony.

M. The Medium Naboo house's sign originally the sign was buried within the wall as well as rotated 180 degrees, so it was near impossible to mouse over to read. After the large patch, the sign was pulled out of the wall, but still remains rotated 180 degrees. The three or four metal-rod looking things are facing away from the house, while the edge of the sign against the house has none, and floats a bit away from the house.

VI. Vendors/Trading

A.Items bought from a vendor often cannot be retrieved. (Intermittant)(UPDATED)

B. When creating/destroying vendors to get the correct species the players inventory is sometimes not updating properly so even those it shows you have free space you get container is full messages.

(WORKAROUND)Instead of destroying the vendor from your inventory, drop it, then use the radia menu to remove the vendor. Had this problem myself when it took about 60 tries to get the female twi'lek npc. Reported that this workaround can cause inv space to be removed from the house instead.

C. Advertising II (custom barking) - text is put through the PERSON NAME FILTER instead of the regular object/name filter which means not only does it count a lot of perfectly ordinary words (master, sundry, etc.) as obscene, you can't use any punctuation which also means you can't use macros like %TT to say the person's name so you can't even say what the regular ad barking messages are.

D. Since I have no merchant xp, I can only place a droid vendor. However, once I drop it, I can't rotate it or move it at all. Therefore, he's facing a wall instead of facing the way the customers would enter.

E. Items sometimes get stuck in vendors/bazaar and even though they are listed show as unable to be retrieved. the retreiving window just sits there. If you come back later you have a 50/50 chance of the item not even being listed anymore.(ADDED)

F. Sometimes Datapad based Items do not appear in the trade window even though the item is actually being traded. This opens the door for scammers who will try to convince people that the item is there but it doesnt show up due to this bug.(ADDED)

I will try to update this list once a week with new info Please if you come across any workarounds, fixes, updates and such post them ina reply to this message. While I try to be as comprehensive as possible i simply do not have time to scour every post for new information. Your posting it here will keep this list as accurate and uptodate as is possible.

Le /bump

"B. Certain items made in a factory come out individually, not in a crate.(UPDATED)"

It might help to be specific about this one so the devs can test it themselves. I've personally noticed that the ore mining unit does not crate and I've heard that trees don't crate either although I haven't confirmed that.

"I. Factories shut down after making 100 items and do not work again unless you redeed them or wait for a server reset."

This also appears to be fixed. I've done several runs over 100 units and had no problems at all.

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I. Factories shut down after making 100 items and do not work again unless you redeed them or wait for a server reset.

(WORKAROUND) Do runs for only 99 and be sure to use the exact number of resources you need.

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another workaround is to just manually set the manufacturing schematic to 101 items (you have to type it in, easiest way to type it in, because sometimes it doesn't like it if i delete and add a 1 to the end, is to add a 1 to it 1010 and delete the trailing 0.

thre problem is not 100 items. the problem is that the factory does not clear out the schematic after producing a number of items equal to the total possible. It removes it from few, but keeps it in the schematic slot. But if you put in less materials then it can make you have the option of manually removing the schematic to allow it to accept a new one.

umm hope this is not confusing..

thx for the info.

Don't know if this is a bug or not. But this is really annoying for architects because of the prices of structures.

The maint. costs in vendors is insane. I guess it goes by the total price of the items in your vendor. I hate not being able to keep a vendor stocked with large items because i don't have the credits to keep up with the maint.

Is this a problem for anyone else?

Aye they really need to rethink that pricing system.. I suggest a flat rate per item instead of the current system. The system however is not a bug. just a WHAAAA?!?!?!