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Thread: Architect Rare Furniture Set Registration

SenraTasi
Thu May 27, 2004 11:04 am
#1

Hi. I've been thinking we should keep a registry of furniture tags that we want to make rare along with serial numbers of each item in the set, kind of like a copyright registry (sticky this please?).


It should look like the following (note, this is the first registration):


Entry: 1

Tag Name: <insert item name> (Kamino Oceans)

Serial Numbers: (g9ilsjjq) (replacable after life expires)

(up 38sjb2) (replacable after life expires)

(vhabsjvm) (replacable after life expires)

(vhkasjv9) (replacable after life expires)


Sole Vendor: Senra Tasi, Intrepid Galaxy


Hopefully, the devs will implement something for crafters who wish to make rare sets of items like this.


Thanks,


=Senra Tasi=

=Dynamic Designs=

=Avalon, Naboo, Intrepid=
Pawlin
Thu May 27, 2004 11:33 am
#2

Are you proposing that we just give items unique names and then make limited runs of them?


Why would people want to buy them? Serious question. For a "limited edition" to work, there would have to be demand for the unique items. What would drive that demand? Is there a collector market? Or do you think it would be a status symbol to own the "Grand Deluxe Armoire" that is limited and expensive?


If the idea is to go to the forums and advertise the limited edition run of the new "Elegant Excellence" line of King size beds and then make 5 Large beds with the name "Elegant Excellence", what would cause people to think thats better than any other large bed?




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SenraTasi
Thu May 27, 2004 1:04 pm
#3

Oh, and I also think we should limit registration to 5 copyrights per person for now and then vote for an increase later?
SenraTasi
Thu May 27, 2004 1:37 pm
#4

In addition to the Kamino Oceans set, let me register these:


Coruscant Metropolitan

Cloud City Executive

Kashyyyk Tribal Chief

Alderaan Traditional
Pawlin
Thu May 27, 2004 1:39 pm
#5

I've thought about making Drall skin couches with certificates of authenticity. The certificate would include a screenshot image of a Drall corpse with the deceased Drall's name visible.



The really sick part is that I'm serious.





Pawlin Construction of Kettemoor.
Harvesters and Crafting stations - Triad Coronet Mall just outside Coronet (-177 -5490)
Architect, House, Furniture, Harvester FAQ

Oprolan the Wookiee of Sunrunner. Cheap resources W. Daeric Talus (-639 -3058)
"Worst FF ever *thumbsdown*" -- Pawlin fan club
"I am not going to win Miss Congeniality again this year in the Senate." -- John McCain


** Please refer to Elyssa's answer
Stargzrrag
Thu May 27, 2004 2:19 pm
#6

So you want to voluntarily have limited use schematics?


Sounds easy, make some stuff then quit architect.


As for me, I only rename my master level furniture, wierd statue and strange statue and put my name on my paintings. If a customer asks for custom named items, I do that too (typically for a small fee).





~Agrin Pi'Nel~
ZenDragonMLS
Thu May 27, 2004 2:43 pm
#7

Well, in the physical world when there is excess money in circulation and/or excess money in the hands of a few, offering "limited edition" items for a premium price can work. Typically the item has to have some level of "value" in the first place aside from the "limited edition" aspect of it. That is, you have to like the artist and the image to buy a limited edition lithograph or ceramic figure or whatever. Then you have to believe that the limited production run will *either* give it more monetary value in the long run (that is, you are gambling on either the artist or that particular piece will be sought by collectors in the future) OR you like the "cachet" of being able to say to your friends "yes, I have one of the only 10 copies of this particular orange couch by Zalle".


Currently the only architect products that have ANY "functional distinction" are harvesters and crafting stations, and even for those the focus isn't on either the maker or the "rarity" per se, but rather on the stats. The *only* distinction between a master couch by Zalle and a master couch by Pawlin is whatever "label" we chose to put on the piece. Since there is no "authority" that keeps me from making an "Alabaster White Couch - #2 of 10 by Zalle" and cranking out hundreds of them, and since the *only* thing different about it is the label itself, I honestly can't imagine anyone paying a premium for these.


Maybe I'm wrong and will look back in the years ahead wishing I'd bought one of the only 50 "Tangerine Couch by Pawlin" in existance and thereby funded my retirement - but I don't think so.







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Pawlin
Thu May 27, 2004 3:07 pm
#8

I think it could work from a purely roleplaying stand point. Or just from the standpoint of a "neat name" is fun concept. If you had some folks that were into role playing then they might enjoy the idea of getting the "premium" goods or "limited edition" items. Its similar to how people think its neat to have bookcases with neat names like Nabooian Geographic or Corellia Excyclopedia or whatever. But I don't think you'd really need to regulate those limited names to have it work. You could make 50 of the "Limited edition prints #261/1000" and have people still buy them just cause the name is "neat" and if they are into actual roleplaying then they could have some fun with it.


Oh, and actually any idea of a register of names really wouldn't work cause our server wide honor system is slightly broken.




Pawlin Construction of Kettemoor.
Harvesters and Crafting stations - Triad Coronet Mall just outside Coronet (-177 -5490)
Architect, House, Furniture, Harvester FAQ

Oprolan the Wookiee of Sunrunner. Cheap resources W. Daeric Talus (-639 -3058)
"Worst FF ever *thumbsdown*" -- Pawlin fan club
"I am not going to win Miss Congeniality again this year in the Senate." -- John McCain


** Please refer to Elyssa's answer
ZenDragonMLS
Thu May 27, 2004 3:29 pm
#9






Pawlin wrote:

I

Oh, and actually any idea of a register of names really wouldn't work cause our server wide honor system is slightly broken.





Give that fish the "understatement of the year" award right now!




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Chilastra: Zalle RazorPoint, Trader:Engineer (Master Architect, Master DE, Master Shipwright) - vendors just north of Theed at -3858 6181
Test Center: Rikka R'zrPoint, Master Artisan, Master Architect - showroom just south of Theed at -5370, 3139

GenChaos
Thu May 27, 2004 4:15 pm
#10

My buddy had a shop on Lok he called 'The Battle Zone'. I made a lmited edition set of furntiure for him and only him.


I have also made limited edition weapons from a roleplaying perspective. I am using my master WS wookiee alt to create a line of bowcasters honoring great wookiee's. The first one, called 'Rorworr's Honor Caster' is honoring the Wookiee scout who grew up on Naboo. I figured a scout would want the highest range possible so I made them with high range scopes. The next line will honor someone else and will emphasize perhaps wound% or HAM.


The point is that by roleplaying I have created a special item that others can buy to use or simply to collect the whole series and hang on their wall.


SenraTasi
Thu May 27, 2004 4:19 pm
#11

Yes, I realize that there is nothing to stop people from copying names, and that's why I formed this thread...to give some structure and authority to actual rare items. Any item that does not match the serials in this thread for each set is not officially rare...that's the point. No other furniture can have the specific name since this thread will, in a sense, be the authority on such things. If someone claims a copyright on "Kamino Skies" or some other variation of Kamino Oceans, then the buyer will see this, and since the Kamino Oceans brand is older (dates on specific posts) the buyer will value Kamino Skies less than Kamino Oceans (if they are the same furniture, for example).


It will work if more people participate...trust me...I'm an economist
Pawlin
Thu May 27, 2004 4:40 pm
#12






SenraTasi wrote:

...

It will work if more people participate...trust me...I'm an economist





If you got a majority of people to adhere to this system then it would work for most of them. If there were any laws or regulations governing our server economies besides game mechanics then it might work just fine like realworld copyright laws do.


However the truth is that the majority of the players dont' ever read these boards. So you won't get too many people even aware of it to participate.


And what would happen if someone got greedy and stole your name? I don't think you'd have any recourse against someone who broke the rules that you made up.


Like I said our honor system is a little broken. So as soon as the system starts to work and the value of the limited items increases thats exactly when someone will see the opportunity and make a factory run using your valuable name and dump them on the bazaar. Or just as likely someone who never saw this registration list would see an item with one of your names and say "hey cool name" and "borrow" your idea.







Pawlin Construction of Kettemoor.
Harvesters and Crafting stations - Triad Coronet Mall just outside Coronet (-177 -5490)
Architect, House, Furniture, Harvester FAQ

Oprolan the Wookiee of Sunrunner. Cheap resources W. Daeric Talus (-639 -3058)
"Worst FF ever *thumbsdown*" -- Pawlin fan club
"I am not going to win Miss Congeniality again this year in the Senate." -- John McCain


** Please refer to Elyssa's answer
ZenDragonMLS
Thu May 27, 2004 5:51 pm
#13

Over the years I've developed an understanding about the world that says that I can expect about 10 unique opinions from 7-8 economists, so I'm not sure that makes the idea "golden".


Seriously, at least from my perspective, I put this so far down on the list of things that would add value to my profession and that I'd lobby for that I can't imagine expending time and energy on. If you want to set up a regsitration system and have an online "collectibles catalog", then have at it. As Pawlin says, the *vast* majority of the players don't frequent these boards at all, much less be bound by any conventions established here.





Chilastra: Mikka R'zrPoint, Spy (Master Ranger/Master Pistoleer)
Chilastra: Zalle RazorPoint, Trader:Engineer (Master Architect, Master DE, Master Shipwright) - vendors just north of Theed at -3858 6181
Test Center: Rikka R'zrPoint, Master Artisan, Master Architect - showroom just south of Theed at -5370, 3139

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