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Wow! It's like that guy from the other thread.

Out of curiosity, what do you charge? I think it's assuming a lot that the people you're responding to overcharge without you knowing their prices and them knowing your's.

Message Edited by bluejanus on 02-12-2005 08:38 PM


Ok, out of fairness, that was an unfair assumption. As an example, I charge 4000 for small houses, 250 for base furniture, 1000 for fancy furniture, 1500 for elegant furniture, 10000 for BER 13 harvesters....etc, etc, etc. I usually make deals to get the resources and supplies I need....I work alot of deals to keep my costs low. I'm a broker, and I like to sell in bulk. I get hate mails for my prices all the time.

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Message Edited by bluejanus on 02-12-2005 08:46 PM

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Puertoriqueno wrote:

Hmmm...doesnt seem to have been alot of response here.

I guess the intent was to raise anger over my prices. I get hate mail all the time, no worries.

At any rate, the current vendor is storage. We are in the process of a move....which I talk about later in the thread.

I will have furniture and houses back up again in a few days. I tend to sell out quickly.

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It wasn't about creating hate mail. It was surprising and I reposted it.

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Marjaliisa wrote:

Puertoriqueno, this is my take on the situation.

Suppose you are a combatant. You spend your time on-line huntingvarious critters/NPCs. Maybe you are not the greatest hunter, but that's what you do and you have fun doing it.

Then suppose the devs decided, in the interest of fun and the GCW, to remove the neutral faction and make everyone else Overt all the time. Wouldn't you complain (with reason), that you are being forced into a playstyle which you don't like and have no interest in?

How would you like to be told, "If you can't compete in PvP, then find a non-combat profession."?

This is my complaint. I am not interested in joining a PA so they can lend/give me lots and resources so I can compete. I am not interested in participating in a sort of economic reality simulator. And I am definitely not interested in being told, "If you can't compete, go out of business". This might make sense in reality, but this is not reality, it's a game, which has to accommodate different playstyles, not just let the casual player go to the wall.....

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Ok, fair enough. Is there any way to display prices and protect the honest merchant while forcing the ones that gouge to lower thier prices? We cant have protections in place....you are suggesting that your fun and profit is more important then every non-merchant playing, that somehow you deserve to be protected and the consumer has to pay the price....ok, maybe you are not saying that. It seems that way to me, but I could be mistaken.

There has to be some type of halfway point we can reach.

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Puertoriqueno wrote:

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Marjaliisa wrote:

Puertoriqueno, this is my take on the situation.

Suppose you are a combatant. You spend your time on-line huntingvarious critters/NPCs. Maybe you are not the greatest hunter, but that's what you do and you have fun doing it.

Then suppose the devs decided, in the interest of fun and the GCW, to remove the neutral faction and make everyone else Overt all the time. Wouldn't you complain (with reason), that you are being forced into a playstyle which you don't like and have no interest in?

How would you like to be told, "If you can't compete in PvP, then find a non-combat profession."?

This is my complaint. I am not interested in joining a PA so they can lend/give me lots and resources so I can compete. I am not interested in participating in a sort of economic reality simulator. And I am definitely not interested in being told, "If you can't compete, go out of business". This might make sense in reality, but this is not reality, it's a game, which has to accommodate different playstyles, not just let the casual player go to the wall.....

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Ok, fair enough. Is there any way to display prices and protect the honest merchant while forcing the ones that gouge to lower thier prices? We cant have protections in place....you are suggesting that your fun and profit is more important then every non-merchant playing, that somehow you deserve to be protected and the consumer has to pay the price....ok, maybe you are not saying that. It seems that way to me, but I could be mistaken.

There has to be some type of halfway point we can reach.

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I don't think anywhere here has anyone said that their fun is more important than anyone elses. Nor is that being implied. Its not an us verus them proposition.

Define "honest merchant" and "gouge". Those are subjective and relative terms. One persons gouger is another persons undercutter. When you talk about the "honest merchant", are you meaning to imply that some people here are dishonest? I don't see any dishonesty. Nobody is forcing anyone to buy anything in the current system. What is a "fair" price and who decides that? Whats the "fair" price for a 30k resource veteran reward or a Radar Screen schematic and how are those prices determined? If I put a BER13 mineral harvester up for sale on my vendor for 129k and someone comes and buys it of their own free will then how is that not fair or honest on my part? If I can make 300k from an evenings worth of work as a master pistoleer then why shouldn't I expect to make 300k from an evenings worth of crafting as a master architect??

Some people are saying that they feel a galaxy wide search and the resulting direct price competition would make the game no longer fun for them given their play style. That is their opinion about their game play.

None of us knows for sure how a galaxy wide search would really end up impacting the economy. We're all just guessing at this point.

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Puertoriqueno wrote:

Ok, fair enough. Is there any way to display prices and protect the honest merchant while forcing the ones that gouge to lower thier prices? We cant have protections in place....you are suggesting that your fun and profit is more important then every non-merchant playing, that somehow you deserve to be protected and the consumer has to pay the price....ok, maybe you are not saying that. It seems that way to me, but I could be mistaken.

There has to be some type of halfway point we can reach.

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Making a search system ALONE where peoples products are easier to find will be enough to make some people need to be a little more competitive on pricing afterall part of the reason people PAY high prices is because they cannot find an alternative... If it is easier to find an alternative ( which searching for product details with out prices will do ) then people can truly price how they want people can charge 30k for a small house while you charge 4k if someone pays 30k for that same house you can at least say that that person couldnt have easily found a better deal...

I still don't understand how some people believe that their pricing scheme should be imposed on all players. This is why I say there is no gouging or gross undercutting in game. It's not like real life is somehow more fair. Companies and business make ridiculous proft on the consumers.

again i would have to agree with pawlin. this could go good or bad for us. since its a player driven economy we dont how it would go. its just like the real life stock market, no one can really predict what would happen.