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Thread: Hello! And question?

bluejanus
Tue Aug 30, 2005 5:44 am
#1

I'm still in my never-ending search to beat up the one day crafting change stations. I'm hoping this buff change will help me incrementally in that regard. Highly experimented components are very important for crafting stations. Every little bit helps.





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Eronsill
Tue Aug 30, 2005 8:27 am
#2

*nod nod* Thank you.



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Pawlin
Tue Aug 30, 2005 11:37 am
#3






Sharenna wrote:
...Dropping MArtisan could harm your chance of making them yes, I'm not sure if the final artisan experitmentation points are in the master box, if they are then obviously you won't have enough to do a full experiment.






All the Artisan experimentation points are in the Engineering and Dom Arts skill boxes. So you can get 10 points with 44xx.


BUT you really need master artisan in order to make the necessary sub components (electronic GP, control unit etc) since those schematics are all in the master box.





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Pawlin
Tue Aug 30, 2005 11:40 am
#4






Eronsill wrote:


... I understand that it takes a metal with 980+ to both OQ and CD, and that it has to be experimented up with the best of your skill. So far, I've yet to get my paws on any such metal, but with what I could pull up, I've crafted +23 crafting stations.

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What are all the stats for the resources you have? A high OQ/ Cd metal is just one thing needed.


You need to use all the optional sub parts. ALL the resources in all the sub parts need to be as high stats as possible. And all sub parts need to be experimented as high as possible by a master Artisan or master DE.






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Eronsill
Tue Aug 30, 2005 12:08 pm
#5


I've been away from SWG for some time, and recently returned because I missed it.


This is the first time I've worked to become an architect, and I took my time, making stock for my vendors rather than grinding to master. Tonight I'm finally within sight of Master, with one box left to go.


I've read the FAQs and various posts concerning skill tapes, and what it takes to make the best crafting stations. I understand that it takes a metal with 980+ to both OQ and CD, and that it has to be experimented up with the best of your skill. So far, I've yet to get my paws on any such metal, but with what I could pull up, I've crafted +23 crafting stations.


My question is, then, will I ever be able to craft one of the top +43 or +44 stations, being a Bothan, without the extra human artisan experimentation points? If I drop Master Artisan will it be that much further out of my reach? Is there a way to make one with crafting tapes?


It's nice to see so many helpful architects here, and I thank you in advance for your time.



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Sharenna
Tue Aug 30, 2005 12:33 pm
#6

Yes you will be able to craft the +43/44 as a Bothan, usually just the 10 points at max are used, the extra are really imho just for crafting artisan foods. Dropping MArtisan could harm your chance of making them yes, I'm not sure if the final artisan experitmentation points are in the master box, if they are then obviously you won't have enough to do a full experiment.



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Eronsill
Tue Aug 30, 2005 12:47 pm
#7

I was curious if anyone knew specifically how the experimentation points would be affected without mastery. So I do not need the extra two that the human bonus gives?



I also just mastered the craft, having crafted several mediums and qualifying for Houses IV.





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Pawlin
Tue Aug 30, 2005 1:14 pm
#8

Generally what it will take:


An OQ/CD of something > 950 level to make the droid parts and experimented by a master DE up to the 95-99% range


Inert gas, polymer, ore, copper, steel and metal in the OQ > 975 level to make your control units, electronic gp and energy distributors. These parts only care about OQ. Experimented by a master artisan up to the 95-99% range.


Steel and metal with OQ / Cd as high as possible. A Duralloy steel with OQ > 950 / Cd > 575 plus the same OQ/Cd metel from the droid parts will do. This is for the MSS which cares about OQ and Cd. YOu should hit 88%-96% for the MSS. And you need to use ALL the possible parts it has and the parts need to all be high experiment as described above.


Then in the final combine you want a conductivity copper as high as possible, preferably >950 cond.





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Eronsill
Tue Aug 30, 2005 2:47 pm
#9

-is frantically scribbling all of this down and studying it intently. Thank you very much for your help. My materials, while high quality, weren't in that range. Between that and the master droid engineer, it gives me something to work on.



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Camirah Nahas'Fey ... Master Architect, Interior Designer
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jerichocross
Tue Aug 30, 2005 2:52 pm
#10

Has anyone tried making hq droid storage compartments with just the tree in DE that has all the exp pts plus CAs to get up to 10 exp pts? I was thinking of doing this so I wouldn't have to go through the trouble of finding a master DE.

Message Edited by jerichocross on 08-30-2005 02:53 PM



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Pawlin
Tue Aug 30, 2005 5:27 pm
#11






jerichocross wrote:
Has anyone tried making hq droid storage compartments with just the tree in DE that has all the exp pts plus CAs to get up to 10 exp pts? I was thinking of doing this so I wouldn't have to go through the trouble of finding a master DE.





Don't know if anyones tested it. But I see no reason that it wouldn't work.


Looks like you get 90 droid experimentation points with 0-0-4-0 DE and then a +10 tape would put you at 10 points. The DSC schematic is in the novice DE box.






Pawlin Construction of Kettemoor.
Harvesters and Crafting stations - Triad Coronet Mall just outside Coronet (-177 -5490)
Architect, House, Furniture, Harvester FAQ

Oprolan the Wookiee of Sunrunner. Cheap resources W. Daeric Talus (-639 -3058)
"Worst FF ever *thumbsdown*" -- Pawlin fan club
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** Please refer to Elyssa's answer
Eronsill
Wed Aug 31, 2005 12:47 am
#12

The artisan parts were easy, as I'm a master myself and used my best components to make them and experimented all of them up (now granted, I don't have uber resources, yet). Finding a master droid engineer, on the other hand, was not so easy. The droid storage compartments were of high quality materials (green across the bar) but the DE was not yet a master, and did not have much experimentation. I'm assuming it will get much higher with better DE parts?



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Camirah Nahas'Fey ... Master Architect, Interior Designer
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just outside Coronet, Corellia, on Shadowfire

Eronsill
Wed Aug 31, 2005 12:53 am
#13

I should add - I can get the exact stats on the materials for the subcomponents, if that will help? I did use all of the optional artisan parts, made sure each part was all "in the green" for each material, and experimented effectiveness as far as it would go in each one. Is that how I should be tackling this?



A'luna Ateh ... Master Image Designer, Tailor
Camirah Nahas'Fey ... Master Architect, Interior Designer
CHIMAERA OUTPOST MALL ... -1868, 45, -2857
just outside Coronet, Corellia, on Shadowfire

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