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Thread: Generic Architect Debate #2 GAD2

Little-Green-Guy
Tue Aug 09, 2005 2:10 pm
#1

lot traders are the "worst of the worst" EXPLOITERS..in the game!



they should try to earn credits the 'old fashioned way' by...working





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bluejanus
Tue Aug 09, 2005 2:25 pm
#2

I don't know if this is true, but I was told that in a beta that at one point there were no lot restrictions. One player crashed the server by the number of structures he had set up. Afterwards they instituted limited lots per character.





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Annster
Tue Aug 09, 2005 2:45 pm
#3

The biggest issue asI see it with lot swappersarethose that stops play the gameand leave 100s of extractos and other condemned buidlings behind


Poohba
Tue Aug 09, 2005 11:09 pm
#4

Figures a resource salesman would cry exploit first and the loudest.




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Pawlin
Wed Aug 10, 2005 12:31 am
#5

Nerfer: They should get rid of cross server lot swaps. They shouldn't be in the game.


Swapper: We need lot swaps. Why do you want to nerf us?


Nerfer: Lot swapping is obviously not something SOE intended. If they wanted us to have a billion lots each then they would have given us a billion lots each. Don't you think theres a reason that we're limited to 10 lots per character? Using more then that is unfair and obviously not what SOE planned for. I don't know why SOE hasn't nerfed it yet.


Swapper: If SOE didn't want lot swaps then they wouldnt' have put them in the game. Geez, thats obvious. Besides I need 1000 lots in order to store the 1000000 components and stuff I've got and if I don't have 288 factories then I can't produce 1813445 items per week. How am I supposed to stay in business otherwise?I'd like to see that!


Nerfer: You don't need any of that. I can make everything I want with a tool and a droid sitting at the bank in Coronet! I made like 50 credits just yesterday. Geez. No wonder you want lot swapping so much. Its you thats ruining the economy.


Swapper: Why are you attacking people? Are you a communist or something? Lot swaps make money. Making money is good. You're bad. Don't you realize that lot swapping is the economic engine that drives the whole economy? Nobody can actually play a crafter with out lot swapping, its physically impossible.


Nerfer: You're basically just exploiting. But I guess if you need a leg up in order to stay in business thats your problem. Heed my warning the great nerf will come! SOE shall banish you all!! Oh, and renting lots is just fine though, but thats different.


Swapper: I guarantee if SOE stops lot swapping then the game will shrivel up and die! Every planet will be covered end to end in burned down harvesters. Nobody will be able to buy any resources ever. Crafting will be ruined completely. Hurton will mate with Sledge Panthers. Coronet will burn to the ground!


Nerfer: Lot swaps are the tool of the devil!! Be gone ye to the vile pit of the sarlacc!!


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Elyssa
Wed Aug 10, 2005 12:41 am
#6

It's good that we've findally got a second generic debate.



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StevieC
Wed Aug 10, 2005 2:27 am
#7






Annster wrote:

The biggest issue asI see it with lot swappersarethose that stops play the gameand leave 100s of extractos and other condemned buidlings behind









This is the biggest problem.



FarStar is literally choking with harvesters and houses that have been left behind by players that have left, and now there's the great "thisstructure is condemned" and they don't burn out they never leave.


I would prefer it if players were given 3 to 7 days after a factory ran out of power/maintainence to be resupplied and then they died becasue as it is, well there's going to be no space left soon.


To stop lot trades all they have to do is limit players to 2-3 characters per account rather than 8 and you'd cut the problem in half.




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Talon001
Wed Aug 10, 2005 6:49 am
#8


I think debating with yourself usually has the best outcomes.



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wisp1422
Wed Aug 10, 2005 3:17 pm
#9

Sometimes you will need more lots though. Take a look at just armorsmith alone sometime and how many components for sub componets for main components it is really crazy. you could fill a large house with the stuff to make a factory run of just one type of armor. That would not even cover all the specifically named resources you will need as well, from what I have seen of Armorsmith it is just as crazy as Arch and thats not counting IF you have just one single crafting profession. Many of us who craft also have another crafting profession as well as our main. I do agree though that it is sad that people quit and leave crap up and they should do perge's more often or at the very least get the system they are working on now where you can pull up your house with all of its content's and it will store in your data pad but also with this we will run into not many people care about the others who still play and may not pull there house up. They will prob never get rid of server lot swaps as they don't seem to mind cross server trades.



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bluejanus
Wed Aug 10, 2005 4:42 pm
#10



Talon001 wrote:
I think debating with yourself usually has the best outcomes.





What happens if you lose though?





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Structures vendor in the HorkCo Shop near Coronet, Corellia (CLOSED)
Structures vendors in the Mos Mesric Mall near Mos Espa, Tatooine (CLOSED)
Structures, jedi kit, crafting station and resource vendors in Serenity near Kaadara, Naboo (CLOSED)
Talon001
Wed Aug 10, 2005 10:38 pm
#11






bluejanus wrote:





Talon001 wrote:


I think debating with yourself usually has the best outcomes.







What happens if you lose though?




hmm...then the point wasnt worth arguing in the first place, so it really didnt matter if you won or lost



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Elyssa
Wed Aug 10, 2005 10:48 pm
#12

I agree with KING Pawlin.



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Shop Crazy Durni, Inc., now open in Metropolis, Corellia (885 -6605 Gorath)

"Why the big secret? People are smart, they can handle it."
"A person is smart. People are dumb, panicky, dangerous animals and you know it."

Elyssa was 1000% correct
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Dvnce
Wed Aug 10, 2005 11:36 pm
#13






Elyssa wrote:

I agree with KING Pawlin.





so... I guess you are saying that you agree with me too then??? Its about time that DocSavag Admitted this in public...

Message Edited by Dvnce on 08-10-2005 11:36 PM




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