Architect Archive
Thread: Collection of Bugs, Errors, Oversights and Whaa?'s. 08-18-03 (Updated Weekly)
I will continue to repost this list every week. marking off bugs that have been fixed and adding new ones. I will also try to include temporary work arounds for bugs that have workarounds. As Always please add any bugs or workarounds that I may have missed so they and be added to this list.
I also know that there was a huge patch last week and that some of these issues were fixed ... I never go by what the devs state was fixed. I go by what the players themselves report. If I list something and you know FROM PERSONAL EXPERIENCE that it has in fact been fixed or reduced in frequency please post here and I will update it.
I. Crafting.
A. Harvester mechanism schematic does not load. This gates medium and large flora harvesters.
B. There is no UXP for deeds. (some report UXP will slow trickle in but you have to be really watching for it. I have never noticed any xp increase based on deeds I've sold and I do keep track of my xp because I am always calculating how much I need to obtain the next skill.)
C. Master architects only have +55 architect assembly and +55 architect experimentation (unless they are Mon Cal). Other craft professions either have +100 to these already or will receive them soon according to the In Development page.
D. Experimentation does nothing for architects, which essentially makes the entire Construction line worthless. Increasing durability does not reduce maintenance costs. Increasing efficiency on harvesters does not affect the sample rate.
E. Medium mineral, water and solar harvesters all take between 3-4k materials to make. Medium chemical and gas harvesters take 12k materials to make. The medium flora harvester (when it is possible to build) takes 21k materials, only 3000 less than the heavy flora harvester.
F. Input hoppers on private craft stations with optional components broke. You can not access them anymore. (FIXED)
G. Crafting stations used to give GCXP and were changed to give Structural XP, However thier available experimentation points still run off the artisan line instead of being switch to the architectural line. Personal harvestors are also affected like this.
H.Many folks are reporting that advancing up the furniture line appears to increase thier chance of critical failure on all Architect lines instead of decrease it. This is unconfirmed but enough people have mentioned it for me to decide to list it as a possible bug.)
I. There are 2 separate Small Corellian House Style2 Floorplan2 deeds. They have different complexities and different wall module requirements. (The second is supposed to be generic.)
J. Critical failures leave the material in the craft tool and you have to back out of the tool and restart it. This may be structure specific, because ithas not happened yetwhen I am making artisan items.(NEW)
K. When surveying, the datapad stops updating after a while. This was fixed in beta but broke again in live.(NEW)
II. Harvesting.
A. At times heavy harvesters use their maintenance at double/triple or even quadruplethe rate. This is random and does not always affect the same harvester twice.
B. During periods of server downtime, maintenance is used, but nothing is harvested and no power is used. This was very obvious during the 8 hour downtime one day.
C.Paying Maintenance on Harvestors sometimes cause the amount to be subtracted from the maintenance pool instead of added. Seems to occur when the harvestor is going through a pay cycle and you attempt to pay.
D. Whenlogging in, the first harvestorpeople collect from will first givethem a pile of 0, thenthey have to collect again to get what is actually in the hopper. Happens 100% of the time, 1 pile of 0 after logging in ..(ADDED)
(Workaround: Move the slider down then back up and it will remove the product properly.)
III. Factories.
A. Problems with building Power Core Units in factories. You have to put in the resources for at least 4 to get 2 identical ones (required for PA hall). The rest of the resources just disappear.
B. Ore mining units made in a factory come out individually, not in a crate.
C. Admin has no access to input or output hoppers.
D. The factory owner gets all factory xp, even if an admin loads a schematic.
E. The factory must be loaded on someone's screen for the owner to get any xp at all.
F. Factories produce items MUCH slower than can be crafted by hand. Holocron posted that factories produce faster than hand crafting.
G. At times items can not be removed from crates. Sometimes the count decrements by 1 and goes back up again. At other times, items can take up to an hour to appear in your pack. This seems to be tied to server or database lag, as switching sub servers or simply waiting fixes the problem. It can be a real pain however.
H. Factories can not use items from crates as components. You must load them all by hand. (Intermittant)
I. Crates appear in the crafting tool, but you cannot use them in the schematic. You must remove the items from the crate by hand.
J. Factories shut down after making 100 items and do not work again unless you redeed them or wait for a server reset.(NEW)
III. Furniture.
A. Cafe table 2looks almost exactly thesame as Dining Table aren't we already limited enough.
B. Multi spot furniture items such as couches only have one available spot to sit on.
(Workaround: To sit on a Large bed, or make multi-user seats usable by multiple people, place Ottomans underneath them. In some cases, the ottoman will clip through the top of the seat cushions of the object, but in cases like the Large Bed (which cannot otherwise be sat on) they're invisible. This allows you to sit on the ottoman, with the appearance of sitting on the couch or bed.)
C. When multiple people sit on chairs/couches they ghost into each other.
D. Droid detection units do not function.
E. Light sources (except torch) do not function.
F. The master architect Armoire is the same as the Armoire you get at Furniture 2.
G. The round couch cannot be targeted once dropped in a house. (Intermittant)
H. Ballot Box Terminal is classified as a Bank Terminal. (Am told that the ballot box is supposed to be accessable as a bank terminal allowing people to access thier bank from thier House/PA. If this is the case is it not working correctly?)
I. Ballot Box Terminal is not made in the F&S tool kit. You need a DW&G kit and a PCS to use schematic.
J. Ballot Box Terminal once placed cannot be picked up.
K. Ballot Box Polls only last 1 hour and can be changed by everyone.(UPDATED)
L. Storage Containers do not have any functionality.
M. Tool Chests and Crafting Stations have full clipping applied to them. Possible path blocking exploit.
N. Couch from Furniture III has placement problems. Does not always respond to radial or slash commands.
O. There is only one type of tree you can make yet the schematic is labeled as style 1 which suggests there is more than one available style.
P. Sitting on chairs places the individual at the very edge of the chair and after a few seconds moves the player off the chair so he/she is sitting on thin air.
Q. Bed Sizes are not accurate. Large beds are barely bigger than a small bed.
R. No lay on bed ability.
S. Large bed not even flagged as sittable.
T. Bio engineers should be the ones to make plants and give them more than 3 types.
U. Data Terminals are not functional.
V.Radial menu forrotating objects is reversed. Left is Right and Right is Left. Rotating furniture from the radial menu rotates it the opposite direction from using the /rotateFurniture command(UPDATED)
IV. Houses.
A. Balconies are not considered part of the house. Unable to place items in this location.
B. Curtains in Naboo houses have full collision applied. Makes it difficult to place furniture.
C. Incorrect house name in the confirmation box when paying maintenance.
D. All houses have the same item limit regardless of size.
E. Broken admin options on houses prevent players from sharing a shop. (FIXED)
F. You cannot place items on tables or at various levels in a home without learning how to play Tetris.
(Workaround: To place items on tables, you need a house with stairs. Once you have that, you can drop the item on the stairs, then use the move forward/move back commands to walk the item over to the table. The item stays at the same Z coordinates the entire time (unless it runs into more stairs or something).
G. If you attempt to reclaim any deed and your inv is full the deed will vanish.
H.Signs for some generic houses float in the air out away from the building. (Am told this is generic house style 1-first one)
I. Archway between the first and second rooms in medium tatooine house doesn't allow furniture to pass through.
J. Tatooine Large house has NO sign.
K. Tatooine Guild Hall sign is somewhat floating. Needs to be lowered about...a fourth of a foot...to be connecting to balcony.
L. Generic House Style 2 takes 2 extra structure modules, and needs a specialized crafting staiton (one in a house) to construct, even though the only difference between it and Floorplan 2 are the placement of the two rooms.
M. When attempting to place a funiture item against a wall (This has beendonewith the divan and the loveseat), after rotating it, and moving it, the furniture items dissappear inside the wall!! You can no longer see them, click on them, or anything, they are just gone!!
N. with my Medium Tatooine if I am on the balcony I "fall" through it periodically. When this happens all I see is a concrete slab in the ground. I cannot see my house walls at allor any furniture. I can move as though the walls are not there. Leaving the house makes it reappear again.(NEW)
O. on my balcony I can never see anyone else that comes onto the balcony.(NEW)
V. Vendors.
A. Items on a vendor count toward the house item limit. (Not sure if this is actually a bug, however it gates "shopping malls") (Intermittant)
B. Resource containers bought from a vendor often cannot be retrieved. (Intermittant)
C. When creating/destroying vendors to get the correct species the players inventory is sometimes not updating properly so even those it shows you have free space you get container is full messages.
D. Advertising II (custom barking) - text is put through the PERSON NAME FILTER instead of the regular object/name filter which means not only does it count a lot of perfectly ordinary words (master, sundry, etc.) as obscene, you can't use any punctuation which also means you can't use macros like %TT to say the person's name so you can't even say what the regular ad barking messages are. (ADDED)
I will try to update this list once a week with new info Please if you come across any workarounds, fixes, updates and such post them ina reply to this message. While I try to be as comprehensive as possible i simply do not have time to scour every post for new information. Your posting it here will keep this list as accurate and uptodate as is possible.
Harvesting D which you just added was fixed by the big patch.
Vendors A is also fixed.
Houses D is not true any more. (you may or may not consider it a fix 
Houses J has been fixed.
I believe Factories C is fixed. Have not tried it myself but there are numerous reports that admin is working now. This may affect Factories D - you need to check.
Factories I has been fixed. Double clicking the crate in the craft tool removes one item. But now backpacks and other containers appear in the tool for no apparent reason as you cannot do anything with them.
not that I dont trust the devs ... its just they have claimed to fix things before and they wernt really fixed
this is why i have kept those items in .. till they can be verified as fixed by the players so thanx for the info i'll update my list
I just wanted to clear something up that I've discovered on UXP.
It'sNOT supposed to be when someone uses our deed etc that we get an equivalent amount of experience for it.
From looking at the other forums, developers posts etc. This is how it's supposed to work:
If someone crafts an item using components that you made, you will get exp equal to the amount gained making the components. For example, if I make 10 structural modules at 500 exp each for 5000 total, then I should get another 5000 when Architect C3D2 makes a wall out of it.
This would make us the kings of UXP experience compared to everyone else, of course we don't need the experience as much since we have it already, hehe.
Workaround to Vendors, C: Instead of destroying the vendor from your inventory, drop it, then use the radia menu to remove the vendor. Had this problem myself when it took about 60 tries to get the female twi'lek npc.
Also, I noticed a vendor bug that I'm not sure happens all the time, as it didn't cross my mind to test, and now I can't. When placing a vendor in a structure that you are admin on but do not own, you're not allowed to pick the vendor back up after dropping them. This can make placing them tedious, since you aren't allowed to /move vendors. You get the message "You do not have permission to access this container."I also haven't tried this in my own home, as my vendor is full of things, I'm at my max number of vendors, and I don't want to relist all of the items. I'd appreciate someone else confirming this problem with a friend's house, and/or testing it in their own homes if possible.
My final bug/glitch/whatever is with the Medium Naboo house's sign. Originally the sign was burried within the wall as well as rotated 180 degrees, so it was near impossible to mouse over to read. After the large patch, the sign was pulled out of the wall, but still remains rotated 180 degrees. The three or four metal-rod looking things are facing away from the house, while the edge of the sign against the house has none, and floats a bit away from the house.
Since I have no merchant xp, I can only place a droid vendor. However, once I drop it, I can't rotate it or move it at all. Therefore, he's facing a wall instead of facing the way the customers would enter. Fairly minor in comparison to some other stuff, but stilla bug nonetheless.
"I was crafting in the wilderness and was attacked while crafting. I had to cancel the crafting menu, while it was initializing, by clicking on the "X". I killed the creature which attacked me and now I can not craft anymore. Everytime I craft I get the message "Failed to start crafting session"1) Used multiple crafting tools of different variety.
2) Destroyed all the ones in my pack
3) Logged off multiple times.
My character has been bugged like this for several hours, any ideas? Thanks"
I ripped this from another post and placed it here so i can add it to my list.
Krit
So your saying that the only way we can get UXP for our work is if I only make the components for an item and then trade them with another architect who does the final combine.
So If i get an architect friend we keep swapping materials for the final combines to get double the xp .... that sounds like a stupid way to do things .... they should have just gone with people placing the final product to give us a set amount of uxp.
Now my question is if this is the way its supposed to work .... is it actually working or not?
II.D. has been fixed after the patch.
You have two III's in the list, this is referring to III. Furniture: III.V. is technically not a bug. When facing furniture, your right is, from the point of view of the furniture, actually left. The "Left" and "Right" are programmed from the point of view of the furniture, not the player. Not at all intuitive, but not technically a bug.