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Thread: Architectual Item Pricing

Hazelina
Sat Feb 05, 2005 7:24 am
#53






Stl2aNgE wrote:

Ok, I charge or try to charge what the server is. I am on Bria Server, and if i charged your prices, I would be a busy person indeed. Everyone would buy the stuff at my prices then resell it for normal galaxy standards.....lol I have done this myself on occasion.

I think you are trying to generate business for yourself on your server. There is nothing wrong with that, but coming in here blasting everyone else is insanity.





Exactly. And I think he is full of sh+t and until he posts the server he plays on with the location of the vendor with these deals of the century on them I won't believe otherwise. And like you said, if he really did put those things on his vendor at those prices and ANYONE (let alone architects) saw them they'd buy out his inventory in a New York minute and resell it all. Hel, on my server I won't sell a heavy harvestor for a dime less than 150k. They are a pan in the as$ to make, take several factory runs and are generally time consuming. And you know what? At 150k I can't keep them in stock fast enough.


Thisthread smacks of a troll or a non-architect trying to get real architects to lower their prices for his own agenda.




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bluejanus
Sat Feb 05, 2005 8:09 am
#54



Hazelina wrote:


Stl2aNgE wrote:
Ok, I charge or try to charge what the server is. I am on Bria Server, and if i charged your prices, I would be a busy person indeed. Everyone would buy the stuff at my prices then resell it for normal galaxy standards.....lol I have done this myself on occasion.
I think you are trying to generate business for yourself on your server. There is nothing wrong with that, but coming in here blasting everyone else is insanity.


Exactly. And I think he is full of sh+t and until he posts the server he plays on with the location of the vendor with these deals of the century on them I won't believe otherwise. And like you said, if he really did put those things on his vendor at those prices and ANYONE (let alone architects) saw them they'd buy out his inventory in a New York minute and resell it all. Hel, on my server I won't sell a heavy harvestor for a dime less than 150k. They are a pan in the as$ to make, take several factory runs and are generally time consuming. And you know what? At 150k I can't keep them in stock fast enough.

This thread smacks of a troll or a non-architect trying to get real architects to lower their prices for his own agenda.






He said in his first post ".I am BlackStarr on the Corbantis server, my shop is in the Western Dune Sea of Tatooine titled StarrMart." So checking this should be fairly simple.





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Hazelina
Sat Feb 05, 2005 8:48 am
#55






bluejanus wrote:


He said in his first post ".I am BlackStarr on the Corbantis server, my shop is in the Western Dune Sea of Tatooine titled StarrMart." So checking this should be fairly simple.




Nope. I actually play on the Corbantis server. And in fact I actually have a vendor on Tat. I like to keep tabs on the competition so to speak and I had never heard of this guy or his shop. So I asked some of my friends, some of whom are big harvestor customers from time to time and they had never heard of this guy or his shop. My guild, also had never heard of this guy or his shop. And this guy's shop is not on the world map. But I am thinking none of this means much as he could be a new player (and with those prices probably is), so I decided to go on a trek to find his mythical shop of bargains.


First of all there is no Western dune sea on corbantis. There is an EASTERN dune sea. So I figure maybe he made a typo. I go to that city and check out every vendor there. I found a deed vendor but his prices were in line with every other architect on the server. So I ride around the outskirts of the city thinking maybe his vendor is on the fringes. Nope. Nothing. nada. I then see someone from the guild who owns the city and ask them if this person is in their guild. They say they've never heard of them.


So then I think maybe there is a western dune sea but just not on the map so I get on my trusty AV-21 and spend 15 minutes drivng to the OTHER side of Tat trying to find an outpost, a little city, a collecton of houses, a single vendor in the middle on nowhere. Anything. I didn't find a thing. I then visit all the cities on the western side of the planet (hey I was bored and actually HOPING this guy had a shop so I could buy some stuff ) After about an hour or so I finally gave up my search.


Now Tat is a pretty big place, and it's "possible" he has a shop hidng out in the middle of nowhere that isn't on the world map and isn't advertised in any way, shape or form and that nobody I talked to who lives on Tat knows about. Or maybe he had a shop tucked away in one of the cities/areas I visited that I overlooked (although all the cities do have arch vendors with prices inline with the norm).


But ya know what? I doubt it. I stick by my original statement - until this guy coughs up a waypoint he is full of sh+t.




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Any auctions I win I can pick up, or put them on a vendor for me and give me the location.
bluejanus
Sat Feb 05, 2005 11:44 am
#56



Hazelina wrote:


bluejanus wrote:


He said in his first post ".I am BlackStarr on the Corbantis server, my shop is in the Western Dune Sea of Tatooine titled StarrMart." So checking this should be fairly simple.

Nope. I actually play on the Corbantis server. And in fact I actually have a vendor on Tat. I like to keep tabs on the competition so to speak and I had never heard of this guy or his shop. So I asked some of my friends, some of whom are big harvestor customers from time to time and they had never heard of this guy or his shop. My guild, also had never heard of this guy or his shop. And this guy's shop is not on the world map. But I am thinking none of this means much as he could be a new player (and with those prices probably is), so I decided to go on a trek to find his mythical shop of bargains.

First of all there is no Western dune sea on corbantis. There is an EASTERN dune sea. So I figure maybe he made a typo. I go to that city and check out every vendor there. I found a deed vendor but his prices were in line with every other architect on the server. So I ride around the outskirts of the city thinking maybe his vendor is on the fringes. Nope. Nothing. nada. I then see someone from the guild who owns the city and ask them if this person is in their guild. They say they've never heard of them.

So then I think maybe there is a western dune sea but just not on the map so I get on my trusty AV-21 and spend 15 minutes drivng to the OTHER side of Tat trying to find an outpost, a little city, a collecton of houses, a single vendor in the middle on nowhere. Anything. I didn't find a thing. I then visit all the cities on the western side of the planet (hey I was bored and actually HOPING this guy had a shop so I could buy some stuff ) After about an hour or so I finally gave up my search.

Now Tat is a pretty big place, and it's "possible" he has a shop hidng out in the middle of nowhere that isn't on the world map and isn't advertised in any way, shape or form and that nobody I talked to who lives on Tat knows about. Or maybe he had a shop tucked away in one of the cities/areas I visited that I overlooked (although all the cities do have arch vendors with prices inline with the norm).

But ya know what? I doubt it. I stick by my original statement - until this guy coughs up a waypoint he is full of sh+t.






The Western Dune Sea is a region north of Wayfar and around Rhuidean and Tombstone. I did some cursory checking, but that's a pretty wide area. I couldn't find any locals that had heard of either the Blackstarr or the Rats of Nimh guilds. Google didn't bring up much either. It's kind of odd, but this thread is where most of his posting are.





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Structures vendor in the HorkCo Shop near Coronet, Corellia (CLOSED)
Structures vendors in the Mos Mesric Mall near Mos Espa, Tatooine (CLOSED)
Structures, jedi kit, crafting station and resource vendors in Serenity near Kaadara, Naboo (CLOSED)
bluejanus
Sat Feb 05, 2005 12:52 pm
#57



Hazelina wrote:


bluejanus wrote:


The Western Dune Sea is a region north of Wayfar and around Rhuidean and Tombstone. I did some cursory checking, but that's a pretty wide area. I couldn't find any locals that had heard of either the Blackstarr or the Rats of Nimh guilds. Google didn't bring up much either. It's kind of odd, but this thread is where most of his posting are.

Well in this thread (http://forums.station.sony.com/swg/board/message?board.id=csystems&message.id=39151#M39151) he says he is a dancer on the Starrunner server...

Of course he could say he switched servers or plays two characters on 2 different servers but it just seems pretty odd. But I suspect we won't be hearng any more from him






I saw that as well, but figured he played on more than on server. It's pretty common. Course this would be easier if he just told us where the shop was. Then we could see it was more than a troll.





Isander Aperin - Kettemoor Master Architect (home: Serenity, Naboo)
Structures vendor in the HorkCo Shop near Coronet, Corellia (CLOSED)
Structures vendors in the Mos Mesric Mall near Mos Espa, Tatooine (CLOSED)
Structures, jedi kit, crafting station and resource vendors in Serenity near Kaadara, Naboo (CLOSED)
CorinDWR
Sat Feb 05, 2005 3:58 pm
#58



nice workCorbantis spies and scouts...


In true SWG spirit I will now say he is:


PWNED!!!

Message Edited by CorinDWR on 02-05-2005 11:59 PM



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bluejanus
Sat Feb 05, 2005 4:09 pm
#59



CorinDWR wrote:
nice work Corbantis spies and scouts...
In true SWG spirit I will now say he is:
PWNED!!!

Message Edited by CorinDWR on 02-05-2005 11:59 PM





Eh, if he comes back with a wp and we can check a vendor, then we'll know his intentions match his actions. Since he hasn't gotten back, it's all just up in the air.





Isander Aperin - Kettemoor Master Architect (home: Serenity, Naboo)
Structures vendor in the HorkCo Shop near Coronet, Corellia (CLOSED)
Structures vendors in the Mos Mesric Mall near Mos Espa, Tatooine (CLOSED)
Structures, jedi kit, crafting station and resource vendors in Serenity near Kaadara, Naboo (CLOSED)
kallaswi
Sun Feb 06, 2005 11:28 am
#60



bluejanus wrote:


CorinDWR wrote:
nice work Corbantis spies and scouts...
In true SWG spirit I will now say he is:
PWNED!!!

Message Edited by CorinDWR on 02-05-2005 11:59 PM





Eh, if he comes back with a wp and we can check a vendor, then we'll know his intentions match his actions. Since he hasn't gotten back, it's all just up in the air.




I don't know the exact waypoint since I am not in game right now but I can attest to the fact that Blackstarr does indeed have several vendors in the Western Dune Sea on Tatooine on Corbantis. I have purchased a number of houses for my city as well as several factories and harvesters of various types. His prices are exactly what he listed in his initial post.
Hazelina
Sun Feb 06, 2005 12:37 pm
#61






kallaswi wrote:





bluejanus wrote:





CorinDWR wrote:



nice work Corbantis spies and scouts...


In true SWG spirit I will now say he is:


PWNED!!!

Message Edited by CorinDWR on 02-05-2005 11:59 PM






Eh, if he comes back with a wp and we can check a vendor, then we'll know his intentions match his actions. Since he hasn't gotten back, it's all just up in the air.






I don't know the exact waypoint since I am not in game right now but I can attest to the fact that Blackstarr does indeed have several vendors in the Western Dune Sea on Tatooine on Corbantis. I have purchased a number of houses for my city as well as several factories and harvesters of various types. His prices are exactly what he listed in his initial post.




You can "attest to the fact" until you are blue in the face. You could be his second account, a friend of his, or you could be some guy who is telling the truth -but until I see an actual waypoint this whole thread reaks of bullsh+t to me.


And I find it interesting that if such a shop does exist and has such good dealsthe only two people who claim it exists (you and the guy who stated this thread) won't post the actual waypoint to it. It's not on the world map, I couldn't find it after travelling all over Tat and back and nobody I spoke to has ever heard of tihs guy OR his shop.


I am Hazelina in game and I play on Corbantis. Feel free to post the waypoint in here or leave me an in game email. If I can verify it I will happily come back here and retract everything I said and offer an apology. But I said it before - I don't expect this guy to show his face in here again and I seriously doubt I'll ever hear from you again.


Have a nice day now




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Any auctions I win I can pick up, or put them on a vendor for me and give me the location.
Hazelina
Sun Feb 06, 2005 2:08 pm
#62






bluejanus wrote:
Regardless what his prices are, I'd say most of disagree with most of his statements. I haven't figured why players feel that their viewpoints must necessarily be imposed on every other player in the game. I guess in the absence of regulation by government, people feel they must impose restrictions on themselves.

As for his pricing, it's more curiosity for me. Like one of the posters said, the breakdown of experience for products to pricing of products is uneven for Blackstarr's price list. There's no standard and no explanation on why it's so uneven, especially since he believes there should be a standard.



Well, for whatever reason he posted that listto troll. And as a troll you shouldn't take anything he says seriously.


I price my architect items mainly on how difficult they are to make. All resources have a base cost to mine - the cost of the harvestor to maintain and the cost of the powerin conjuction with the average percentage of a mining site (for ore that percentage on average is lower than other resources so items that take a lot of ore are going to be a bit more expensive.) Other factors added on to that base cost are the rarity of the resource. So for a 13 BER harvestor I can't put any old crap in the harvestor so the CPU of resources for that item is going to be more. And there are less tangible things I factor into the cost that most people ignore - such as the time it takes to make the item. If the item requires multiple factory runs that increases the cost. Not only the cost of the power and maintenance for these factories but my time to do the runs (hey, it's a pain in the ass to run back and forth to the factory(s) all the time).


After everything is said and done my pricing on Corbantis is:


150k for max BER heavy harvestors.

20-50k for max BER mediums (50k max price, some mediums are less than 50k depending on what they take)

10k for small houses (sometimes I'll sell them for 6k in the bazaar as a special to get people into my shop)

70k for medium houses.

150k for large houses.

300k for guild halls.


For high quality bikes i sell the X34's for 13k, speederbkes for 25k and swoops for 35k. When I use crap metal for the bikes I sell them for cheaper but I usually go out of my way to make above average quality items when it matters. And sometimes I'll sell swoops in the bazaar for 6k as a special to get people to come to my shop. I'll rename the deed to the location and name of my shop. They get a high quality swoop for only 6k and in exchange I get advertising


Some Architects on Corbantis sell their stuff for cheaper. Some sell for higher. I think I am about average and I never have a problem selling my wares. Sometimes I can't keep stuff in stock fast enough actually.

Message Edited by Hazelina on 02-06-2005 01:15 PM



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Any auctions I win I can pick up, or put them on a vendor for me and give me the location.
bluejanus
Sun Feb 06, 2005 2:46 pm
#63

I have never had a vendor emptied. Usually I get runs on certain harvesters. This is depending on the hot new spawn that just came in usually. Course I also have quite a lot of harvesters on my vendors. So I guess it balances out, since I generally have a reputation for being stocked.





Isander Aperin - Kettemoor Master Architect (home: Serenity, Naboo)
Structures vendor in the HorkCo Shop near Coronet, Corellia (CLOSED)
Structures vendors in the Mos Mesric Mall near Mos Espa, Tatooine (CLOSED)
Structures, jedi kit, crafting station and resource vendors in Serenity near Kaadara, Naboo (CLOSED)
Pawlin
Sun Feb 06, 2005 3:42 pm
#64

Stownhart, maybe you should post a WP so you aren't lynched as a troll.





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Yarnok
Sun Feb 06, 2005 6:06 pm
#65






Pawlin wrote:

Stownhart, maybe you should post a WP so you aren't lynched as a troll.







Unfortunatly, unless a wp is posted soon, I'm going to have to say that he has already been confirmed as such. It has been just under 3 days since his last post.



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