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Thread: Ber 14 sales?

walcyradiant
Fri Sep 02, 2005 9:45 pm
#27






Pawlin wrote:


And no matter what you buy or invest in at the end of it you're deed will be as good as new and you can just resell it.





Not if your lot traded harvester farm goes up in flames. =)





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devsamuck
Sat Sep 03, 2005 12:56 am
#28

Well I have moved my BER14's down to 120k (same as BER13's) to see if they will sell. I had no sales at 250k.



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bluejanus
Sat Sep 03, 2005 4:00 am
#29



cosno wrote:


Pawlin wrote:

We can also look at the cost of a BER14 from the perspective of a first time buyer mining high quality stuff:

They can buy a BER10 medium for like 30-50k usually. BER10 will get them about 10k resources a day for 3k costs. They sell at 3 cpu and recoup their costs in 2 days. Every day after that you're making 25k / day profit.

Buy a BER13 heavy for like 70-120k. That gets 13k resources / day for about 4.5k cost. SEll for 3 cpu and get your investment back in 2-4 days. Then make 35k / day profit afterwards

Buy a BER14 heavy for 200-250k. Thats 14k / day for 4.5k cost. So they recoup their investment in 5-7 days. Then make 38k /day profit after.

Long run a BER14 really makes a lot of sense if you're buying a heavy for the first time.
If on the other hand you are upgrading from BER13 to BER14 the extra +1 BER will give you 1k resources / day more. How long it would take to recoup that cost depends on the value of the resources. If your mining grind junk for 1 cpu then it will take 200-250 days ... probably too long. But if you're mining high quality material you can sell for 3 cpu or more then it will only be a couple months or even less depending what you're doing with the resources. Plus you can sell the used BER13 to recoup part of your investment in the BER14.
And no matter what you buy or invest in at the end of it you're deed will be as good as new and you can just resell it.



Very good point. The only thing that I would add is to say that if you were mining 3CPU resources it will still take as long sinply because 3CPU resources do not spawn as often as 1CPU resources do. So you potentially end up with down time waiting on the good resource to spawn.




Ahh but for that rare spawn, they're ideal for getting as much as possible. And that's really the whole reason to even use the heavy harvesters as opposed to the mediums.





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cosno
Sat Sep 03, 2005 5:35 am
#30






bluejanus wrote:

Ahh but for that rare spawn, they're ideal for getting as much as possible. And that's really the whole reason to even use the heavy harvesters as opposed to the mediums.



No arguement there - thats why I have my personal fleet of BER14's cooking right now. As for selling them not sure - but my personal havrvesters will be BER14's.




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bluejanus
Sat Sep 03, 2005 8:55 am
#31

Sold two so far. Heh, I think people are being more cautious with their capital investments. It's probably too early to either drop prices or offer incentive plans.





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Cafa
Sat Sep 03, 2005 12:40 pm
#32






walcyradiant wrote:





Pawlin wrote:


And no matter what you buy or invest in at the end of it you're deed will be as good as new and you can just resell it.





Not if your lot traded harvester farm goes up in flames. =)






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Cafa
Sat Sep 03, 2005 6:13 pm
#33

I'm currently at 300K as I think I'm the only one. Having said that, I will be dropping them to 250k when a good iron spawn hits and I will STILL sell BER 13 harvs.


Fivo Asia





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bunk72
Sun Sep 04, 2005 12:47 am
#34


Well, I put mine up for 250k on the day after the publish went live. I only made Minerals, Chemicals and Floras. The floras sold out in about 12 hours (50 units). All in all, I have made about35 million on BER 14's priced at 250k.


However, to be fair, a LARGE chunk of those went to one of my best customers who is doing some lot swaps. I would guess he has bought about 60-70 of the 140 BER 14's that I've sold so far.


The harvesters will sell, it just takes time fo r word to spread. I had one customer buy several BER 13's. When I sent him a tell to thank him, i told him about the BER 14's I had available. He didn't even realize they were possible. Be patient and the sales will come. If everyone panics and drops their prices, then BER 13's will definitely be a thing of the past and only 14's will sell with any regularity. I hope my profession doesn't degrade to one where only the most UBER resources are usable. I like the fact that I can use a mediocre resource here and there and still produce a desirable product.



Message Edited by bunk72 on 09-03-2005 12:49 PM





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cl0kwerq
Sun Sep 04, 2005 1:57 pm
#35

you can make BER 14's now?


why wasn't I informed of this....../grumble.....



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bluejanus
Sun Sep 04, 2005 2:03 pm
#36



cl0kwerq wrote:
you can make BER 14's now?
why wasn't I informed of this....../grumble.....




Someone needs to read the forums more often.





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cl0kwerq
Sun Sep 04, 2005 2:09 pm
#37

guilt trip me later...I gotta make 25 mil to replace my fleet.


(yes...that's 10 harvies*5types*2 characters) oh....what about fusions? I saw someone post about it, but wasn't answered. Is experimentation on these bad boys still borked?



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bluejanus
Sun Sep 04, 2005 2:21 pm
#38



cl0kwerq wrote:
guilt trip me later...I gotta make 25 mil to replace my fleet.
(yes...that's 10 harvies*5types*2 characters) oh....what about fusions? I saw someone post about it, but wasn't answered. Is experimentation on these bad boys still borked?




yes





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cl0kwerq
Sun Sep 04, 2005 2:23 pm
#39

/tar architect_community;


/comfort;





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