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Thread: Ber 14 sales?

4Bidden
Thu Sep 01, 2005 11:34 pm
#14






Alukolli wrote:
ya ber 14 will be the new thing but it make take an while until we can make em. or that all arch can. gotta check ahazi search to se if they are made and what price range





Ever server is different, so price will vary. I'm currently doing runs of ber 14 heavy minerals and ber 11 medium minerals..

Message Edited by 4Bidden on 09-01-2005 11:35 PM



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bluejanus
Fri Sep 02, 2005 2:55 am
#15

Considering the resource requirements, unless you are lucky enough to get another good spawn, chances are the BER 14s are a limited run for you.





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Sharenna
Fri Sep 02, 2005 6:31 am
#16

Well tbh if people are going to be selling the BER 14 at BER13 prices on Chimaera then it'll be time for me to cancel yet another account. I'm not running round for hours looking fora buff, paying silly money to get a buff thats if I find a musician that will give me one. Plus I can't see us keeping enough resources in stock to continually make these things.



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lancamaru
Fri Sep 02, 2005 6:35 am
#17

Survival of the fittest. Sorry for your bad luck.



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Magon-Radiant
Fri Sep 02, 2005 6:48 am
#18






lancamaru wrote:
Survival of the fittest. Sorry for your bad luck.






So you´re gonna sell at 3 cpu or less something that gives the ability of getting cheaper resources to those who are gonna keep their prices and that will sell you the resources you need to making them for 10 cpu or more: great business.


Every profession charges a high cpu in perfect items... but ours.


I hope that you don´t cry for respect from those who believe that a child could be a good architect.





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Alukolli
Fri Sep 02, 2005 7:14 am
#19






Magon-Radiant wrote:





lancamaru wrote:
Survival of the fittest. Sorry for your bad luck.






So you´re gonna sell at 3 cpu or less something that gives the ability of getting cheaper resources to those who are gonna keep their prices and that will sell you the resources you need to making them for 10 cpu or more: great business.


Every profession charges a high cpu in perfect items... but ours.


I hope that you don´t cry for respect from those who believe that a child could be a good architect.







and if he buys at 5cpu thats cool for me. hope he buys resources from me so he wont stay long in i charge acording to resource prices+profit on makin it. i can easely drop prices and sell them for the same as i sell resource for. and dont charge for the actually crafting. but that dosent sound like an good buisness part

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Glaran
Fri Sep 02, 2005 8:19 am
#20

it's a very sad case on the chilastra server.

architect's are not united. always undercutting each other with prices.

BER13 harvs sell at 85k and BER14 harvs go for 120k on my server.


i don't get you ppl, it takes almost 30k resources to make one harv .

not including the schematics, factory runs , harv runs.

profit wise, architects are the worse in profit imo.


selling resources i can make 3cpu easy

1 harv 30k resources at 85k. doesn't even add to 3cpu per


sorry but i'm just venting
Dazzydoodle
Fri Sep 02, 2005 9:46 am
#21

I really don't understand why you'd sell BER14s at BER13s prices.

So they replace 14s as the new top. Why?

Because they're better!

And should be charged accordingly.

Not to mention they require a buff in addition to kick ass materials, drink, etc...




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MacLucy17
Fri Sep 02, 2005 11:05 am
#22

Had the BER14's on my vendors w/in aseveral hrs of the publish...Priced them at 200k on Valcyn...Still haven't sold a one of them. But, my BER13's have been selling like hot cakes at 120k...Guess people are thinking the BER13's will no longer exist...But I won't drop the prices...the sales will eventually come...plus, I tend to sell more deeds on the weekends....


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Pawlin
Fri Sep 02, 2005 11:13 am
#23






MacLucy17 wrote:

Had the BER14's on my vendors w/in aseveral hrs of the publish...Priced them at 200k on Valcyn...Still haven't sold a one of them. But, my BER13's have been selling like hot cakes at 120k...Guess people are thinking the BER13's will no longer exist...But I won't drop the prices...the sales will eventually come...plus, I tend to sell more deeds on the weekends....


Trosky








Did you advertise the availability of the BER14's?


Are the BER14's on the same vendor as the BER13's?


If you put the BER14's on teh same vendor and if you've got multiple pages people may just not be seeing the BER14's. This isn't uncommon, people buy the first thing they see that meets their needs.





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cosno
Fri Sep 02, 2005 3:52 pm
#24


You should remind your customer of one thing whey buying a BER14.


On a 70% spawn a BER14 will only pull 1008 more units per day than a BER13. To the resource vendor selling resources at 1.5CPU that is only an extra 1540 credits in potential sales.


If a BER13 selles for 100k and a BER14 for 250k then it will take the resource miner an extra 150-175 days of solid mining plus a full sell of the resources from the harvester to make up the cost difference.


So is BER14 at 250k really a bargain or is is foolishness to purchase something for 2.5 times the going rate of a BER13 that will take almost 6 months to make up the cost difference? I guess they could raise the price of resources.


BER14 is really not all it is cracked up to be. But that is simply my opinion. I would hate for people to make an uninformed decision to purchase a 14 thinking they are getting something really uber - when they are not.


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Dazzydoodle
Fri Sep 02, 2005 4:12 pm
#25



devsamuck wrote:
Well I have moved my BER14's down to 120k (same as BER13's) to see if they will sell. I had no sales at 250k.





After..... one day?

Do non archies know that better is available?

250k may be a bit high, but really.... don't bottom out the market so quickly!

(last week, did you sell the BER13 at the same price as BER12 'failures'?)

Give it time.... When word gets around, I'm sure people will pay a few dozen K more for BER14s.




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Pawlin
Fri Sep 02, 2005 4:34 pm
#26

We can also look at the cost of a BER14 from the perspective of a first time buyer mining high quality stuff:


They can buy a BER10 medium for like 30-50k usually. BER10 will get them about 10k resources a day for 3k costs. They sell at 3 cpu and recoup their costs in 2 days. Every day after that you're making 25k / day profit.


Buy a BER13 heavy for like 70-120k. That gets 13k resources / day for about 4.5k cost. SEll for 3 cpu and get your investment back in 2-4 days. Then make 35k / day profit afterwards


Buy a BER14 heavy for 200-250k. Thats 14k / day for 4.5k cost. So they recoup their investment in 5-7 days. Then make 38k /day profit after.


Long run a BER14 really makes a lot of sense if you're buying a heavy for the first time.


If on the other hand you are upgrading from BER13 to BER14 the extra +1 BER will give you 1k resources / day more. How long it would take to recoup that cost depends on the value of the resources. If your mining grind junk for 1 cpu then it will take 200-250 days ... probably too long. But if you're mining high quality material you can sell for 3 cpu or more then it will only be a couple months or even less depending what you're doing with the resources. Plus you can sell the used BER13 to recoup part of your investment in the BER14.


And no matter what you buy or invest in at the end of it you're deed will be as good as new and you can just resell it.





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