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Thread: A Cautionary Tale
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Pawlin
Thu Jun 10, 2004 11:06 am
#14
Perelay wrote:
I hate to be a pessimist, however, he Did *give* access. By this admission the CSR reps will not do anything. SchrodingersCat made an honest mistake and it cost him. ...
Giving someone admin access is not the same as giving them permission to take everything in your house.
I'm not sure but I think the CSRs see it that way and will consider this theft with an obvious course of action.
Fishbreath
Thu Jun 10, 2004 11:43 am
#15
/ditto the previous post. This scum doesnt represent what Star Wars is all about. Hear that SOE......Ban this guy........Sorry that happened...he will get his.
SchrodingersCat
Thu Jun 10, 2004 12:00 pm
#16
My greetings,
My apologies for the off-topic post. Knowing full well that many of you do not play on Bria, I'd like to share this with the professions of SWG.
What I'm about to tell you was stupid, was idiotic, was something that many of you will think to yourself, "Good lord, man, you should have known better." And you'd be right. Why am I sharing this with you? Because I want to remind everyone of the wide assortment of real life personalities that exist in SWG. That, while a game, SWG has real people that populate the servers. Most of those people are quite friendly, courteous individuals. Please take what you will from this story. I know I certainly learned a lesson.
Someone I considered an in-gamefriend came to me asking for some schematics to help him master Armorsmith. My alt has the necessary tailor skills to craft the cloths he needed and, being a friend, I agreed to make the schematics.
While waiting, I chatted with a guildmate. It wasn't long before he showed up at the shuttleport and we attempted a trade, realizing at this time he was an overt imperial and I was a neutral. Not a problem, we'll go to my house, I'll give him admin access, he can drop the necessary resources, I'll craft the schems, log my imperial character and trade the schems throughhim.
Why did I think this was the best method? The player I considered a friend plays on dialup. Rather than trading through the imperial character twice, it seemed more expedient to allow him admin access to drop the resources and trade through the imperial character only once.
Upon arriving at my house, he began to look around. I have a fairly nice collection of paintings on the wall, a few moderately rare items on display including a force crystal and an ATST suit. I was rather proud of my little collection. It wasn't anything to rival some of the museums on Bria, but I thought it was rather nice. As a rather new player, naturally I assumed he was checking the place out. Little did I know, that's exactly what was happening.
The guildmate I was speaking with earlier dropped by needing a Swoop and, him having all the resources on hand, I was more than happy to help him out. I prefer to keep to a line of sorts, wanting to finish up with my friend's schematics before crafting the Swoop. After a few minutes of him running around, me trying to get him to drop the resources, him asking what resources, me looking it up in the crafting tool, he said he had to log. Well, okay then. I'll do it when he get's back.
In the basement of my Tatooine house, I keep my crafting stations. I and my guildie run downstairs and I whip uphis Swoop (59% durability, bah) run upstairs and, for the first time realize that just about everything of any rarity in my house was gone.
Did I send him a tell? Absolutely. In fact, I admit I used words the forums regularly edit out. I even got a response. Except for the curse, verbatum:
- "ya i kinda actd like a--hole"
- "well g'luck"
- "/tiphat"
I'm not going to ask people to shun thaed stormlight. I'm not going to ask people to grief him. In fact, I want nothing more from this post than to remind everyone that real people inhabit our fictional world, that every personality imaginable exists within it's electronic borders. My thanks to you for reading this lengthy post. Good luck and May the Force be with you.
bkbr0iler
Thu Jun 10, 2004 1:03 pm
#17
The thing that grabs me most about this post is that this person is someone you considered to be an in-game friend. That's a tough one. What that means to me is that you spent at least a little time chatting with this person to get to know him and have had some sort of in-game adventures or fun together. Using that definition, there are many people I would consider an in-game friend. The thing about that is you *want* to trust them. It makes life easier and gives us a little hope that not every stranger out there is looking to take advantage of you. You can just have fun.
I guess even though I have a in-game friends, I like to keep them honest or remove the temptation to take my virtual stuff. You know what though? There are times that I do put my trust in other players. And at some time I do expect to be let down. So far though, my trust has not been misplaced. I guess it's the risk we all take no matter what kind of contact we have with other people.
Don't be too hard on yourself.
I guess even though I have a in-game friends, I like to keep them honest or remove the temptation to take my virtual stuff. You know what though? There are times that I do put my trust in other players. And at some time I do expect to be let down. So far though, my trust has not been misplaced. I guess it's the risk we all take no matter what kind of contact we have with other people.
Don't be too hard on yourself.
Kisedd
Thu Jun 10, 2004 3:47 pm
#18
This is simply theft, pure and simple. There are so many systems in game where you have to trust other people. Even if the CSR's don't do anything about it, people on your server need to know who this person is. People need to know this info so it won't happen to others.
zoynk
Thu Jun 10, 2004 5:00 pm
#19
I'm sure everyone can agree that it's beyond sad. But should we expect anything less?
Maybe, maybe not.
Maybe, maybe not.
Ganger
Thu Jun 10, 2004 5:18 pm
#20
It is just theif, you invite someone in to your home and he nicks stuff from you, but you let them in and gave admin rights to the person (like giving him your house keys). And it is not your fault at all, you trusted this person. How does the SWG rules stand on this? In real life if someone breaks into your home it is a clear case of robbery but if you gave them a set of keys and then they rob you the law isn't so straight forward.
Arratarr
Thu Jun 10, 2004 5:44 pm
#21
One thing that just recenly formed on Kettemoor server was the KBBB (not my choice for a name), the Kettemoor Better business Bureau. Its forming to be a general help to merchants, crafters, etc to spread the word on bad players as well as help merchants crafters and others guard themselves against scams and things that can lead to problems (like giving out admin status on houses.)
If this was done on Kettemoor, you could bring it to their attention, give your evidence and word would spread (if the evidence was convincing) that this person needs to change his ways.
What people fail to realize is that there ARE ways to deal with griefers and thieves. When the merchants, artisans, and even politicians gather together, they can make life pretty annoying for those who earned their wrath.
I really wish I had remembered about a small function Entertainers had to decline someone the ability to watch/listen to them when a certian troublemaker was around. Given the response we had with the merchant community, it would have devistated the person I won't give credit by saying his name.
If this was done on Kettemoor, you could bring it to their attention, give your evidence and word would spread (if the evidence was convincing) that this person needs to change his ways.
What people fail to realize is that there ARE ways to deal with griefers and thieves. When the merchants, artisans, and even politicians gather together, they can make life pretty annoying for those who earned their wrath.
I really wish I had remembered about a small function Entertainers had to decline someone the ability to watch/listen to them when a certian troublemaker was around. Given the response we had with the merchant community, it would have devistated the person I won't give credit by saying his name.
Splutty
Thu Jun 10, 2004 6:21 pm
#22
So I guess opening your house did sort of kill you...
Or at least pain you 
Mad.
ps. Immature bleepholes will pop up on every multiplayer game as it gets 'older'. And more of them will get their natural sediments off at copulating you over, up to the point where you'd prefer to just throw a ton of rectangular building blocks at them.
pps. Was that considered bad language?
Cafa
Fri Jun 11, 2004 12:11 am
#23
zoynk wrote:
At one point or another I was rather surprised with the general community on Starsider and with the game as a whole. People trading weapons for slicing with trust. Doctors buffing and then asking for tips. Jedi mock dueling with imperials near by, simply watching and not attacking.
Things change.
Between exploits and constant scams, the game somehow reminded me of my Diablo2 days. Where trade exploits and scams were beyond common. My outlook has changed. While I may not trust too many people, I consider myself trustworthy. But despite such, I'd hardly expect anyone to trust me with having little or no reason to do so.
The game is what the people make out of it (or what the devs lack to make out of it haha). Unfortunatly, there will always be one constant: There's always someone stacked with shadow. Piercing eyes, stalking their prey. A victim of the poacher.
I hereby dub thee "Dark Scary Architect"!
Fivo Asia
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