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Thread: A Cautionary Tale

SchrodingersCat
Wed Jun 09, 2004 11:58 pm
#1


My greetings,


My apologies for the off-topic post. I'd like to share this with the professions of SWG.


What I'm about to tell you was stupid, was idiotic, was something that many of you will think to yourself, "Good lord, man, you should have known better." And you'd be right. Why am I sharing this with you? Because I want to remind everyone of the wide assortment of real life personalities that exist in SWG. That, while a game, SWG has real people that populate the servers. Most of those people are quite friendly, courteous individuals. Please take what you will from this story. I know I certainly learned a lesson.


Someone I considered an in-gamefriend came to me asking for some schematics to help him master Armorsmith. My alt has the necessary tailor skills to craft the cloths he needed and, being a friend, I agreed to make the schematics.


While waiting, I chatted with a guildmate. It wasn't long before he showed up at the shuttleport and we attempted a trade, realizing at this time he was an overt imperial and I was a neutral. Not a problem, we'll go to my house, I'll give him admin access, he can drop the necessary resources, I'll craft the schems, log my imperial character and trade the schems throughhim.


Why did I think this was the best method? The player I considered a friend plays on dialup. Rather than trading through the imperial character twice, it seemed more expedient to allow him admin access to drop the resources and trade through the imperial character only once.


Upon arriving at my house, he began to look around. I have a fairly nice collection of paintings on the wall, a few moderately rare items on display including a force crystal and an ATST suit. I was rather proud of my little collection. It wasn't anything to rival some of the museums on Bria, but I thought it was rather nice. As a rather new player, naturally I assumed he was checking the place out. Little did I know, that's exactly what was happening.


The guildmate I was speaking with earlier dropped by needing a Swoop and, him having all the resources on hand, I was more than happy to help him out. I prefer to keep to a line of sorts, wanting to finish up with my friend's schematics before crafting the Swoop. After a few minutes of him running around, me trying to get him to drop the resources, him asking what resources, me looking it up in the crafting tool, he said he had to log. Well, okay then. I'll do it when he get's back.


In the basement of my Tatooine house, I keep my crafting stations. I and my guildie run downstairs and I whip uphis Swoop (59% durability, bah) run upstairs and, for the first time realize that just about everything of any rarity in my house was gone.


Did I send him a tell? Absolutely. In fact, I admit I used words the forums regularly edit out. I even got a response. Except for the curse, verbatum:


- "ya i kinda actd like a--hole"

- "well g'luck"

- "/tiphat"


I'm not going to ask people to shun thaed stormlight. I'm not going to ask people to grief him. In fact, I want nothing more from this post than to remind everyone that real people inhabit our fictional world, that every personality imaginable exists within it's electronic borders. My thanks to you for reading this lengthy post. Good luck and May the Force be with you.



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Giamai
Thu Jun 10, 2004 3:42 am
#2

ok that just plain sucks


maybe it was your fault in a way and maybe this won't help any but you should send in a /report on that guy


maybe take a screenie of the chat log just in case, although i have no idea if thats useful but just in case


good luck



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Tirgwystraff
Thu Jun 10, 2004 5:55 am
#3

5 stars, even if it is off topic. Very well written, and very sorry you got hit like that.



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Srethame
Thu Jun 10, 2004 6:04 am
#4






SchrodingersCat wrote:


My greetings,


My apologies for the off-topic post. I'd like to share this with the professions of SWG.


What I'm about to tell you was stupid, was idiotic, was something that many of you will think to yourself, "Good lord, man, you should have known better." And you'd be right. Why am I sharing this with you? Because I want to remind everyone of the wide assortment of real life personalities that exist in SWG. That, while a game, SWG has real people that populate the servers. Most of those people are quite friendly, courteous individuals. Please take what you will from this story. I know I certainly learned a lesson.


Someone I considered an in-gamefriend came to me asking for some schematics to help him master Armorsmith. My alt has the necessary tailor skills to craft the cloths he needed and, being a friend, I agreed to make the schematics.


While waiting, I chatted with a guildmate. It wasn't long before he showed up at the shuttleport and we attempted a trade, realizing at this time he was an overt imperial and I was a neutral. Not a problem, we'll go to my house, I'll give him admin access, he can drop the necessary resources, I'll craft the schems, log my imperial character and trade the schems throughhim.


Why did I think this was the best method? The player I considered a friend plays on dialup. Rather than trading through the imperial character twice, it seemed more expedient to allow him admin access to drop the resources and trade through the imperial character only once.


Upon arriving at my house, he began to look around. I have a fairly nice collection of paintings on the wall, a few moderately rare items on display including a force crystal and an ATST suit. I was rather proud of my little collection. It wasn't anything to rival some of the museums on Bria, but I thought it was rather nice. As a rather new player, naturally I assumed he was checking the place out. Little did I know, that's exactly what was happening.


The guildmate I was speaking with earlier dropped by needing a Swoop and, him having all the resources on hand, I was more than happy to help him out. I prefer to keep to a line of sorts, wanting to finish up with my friend's schematics before crafting the Swoop. After a few minutes of him running around, me trying to get him to drop the resources, him asking what resources, me looking it up in the crafting tool, he said he had to log. Well, okay then. I'll do it when he get's back.


In the basement of my Tatooine house, I keep my crafting stations. I and my guildie run downstairs and I whip uphis Swoop (59% durability, bah) run upstairs and, for the first time realize that just about everything of any rarity in my house was gone.


Did I send him a tell? Absolutely. In fact, I admit I used words the forums regularly edit out. I even got a response. Except for the curse, verbatum:


- "ya i kinda actd like a--hole"

- "well g'luck"

- "/tiphat"


I'm not going to ask people to shun thaed stormlight. I'm not going to ask people to grief him. In fact, I want nothing more from this post than to remind everyone that real people inhabit our fictional world, that every personality imaginable exists within it's electronic borders. My thanks to you for reading this lengthy post. Good luck and May the Force be with you.







Wow, I'm sorry to hear this happend to you. Well you're a good guy, and many great things will happen to you in SWG and you will look back at what this kid did and laugh.






~Srethame Moonflier~
Master Doctor Master Swordsman
mikalar
Thu Jun 10, 2004 6:21 am
#5

/report my friend and hope you get your stuff back




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Asir_SWG
Thu Jun 10, 2004 7:05 am
#6

If I trade with someone like this - even a friend - I allways use a hopper on an empty factory.. Risk mitigation.


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Davy
Thu Jun 10, 2004 8:15 am
#7

Good writeup. Sorry for your misadventure, hopefully it will be a lesson well-learned.


I've helped many a stranger in online games such as SWG. I did get burnt a couple times, and vowed never to let it happen again. And it hasn't.


My GF has a son she has a tendency to overprotect - childproofing her house, swaddling him in warm clothes every time they go out. I keep telling her: let him bump into furniture, fall down stairs, get cold for forgetting his jacket. He'll learn his lessons, and will be better prepared for life because of having been hurt, or disappointed. She won't listen to me, and continues to be a fussy mother.


Hehe, good thing SOE doesn't mother us in SWG.



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Korlan
Thu Jun 10, 2004 10:22 am
#8

thats why I turst no one... but burned a few times myself.



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Pawlin
Thu Jun 10, 2004 10:36 am
#9

Try opening a CSR ticket. This is obvious theft. You might be able to get the stuff back.


I'm not totally sure how SOE process work for this stuff but its worth a shot if you haven't tried yet.



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TheHobb
Thu Jun 10, 2004 10:42 am
#10

Report him for griefing and get him banned and his account removed. He doesn't deserve to be a part of the game anymore, IMO.
Perelay
Thu Jun 10, 2004 10:45 am
#11






SchrodingersCat wrote:



Why did I think this was the best method? The player I considered a friend plays on dialup. Rather than trading through the imperial character twice, it seemed more expedient to allow him admin access to drop the resources and trade through the imperial character only once.




I hate to be a pessimist, however, he Did *give* access. By this admission the CSR reps will not do anything. SchrodingersCat made an honest mistake and it cost him. I have been fortunate when it's come to sharing access.


A suggestion for future issues along this line is to use a vendor for swapping (when possible).


Sorry you got used like that SC


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Dvnce
Thu Jun 10, 2004 10:47 am
#12

yes similar event happened on Gorath.. Items were recovered.. and theif banned.. after a csr ticket was filed




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theonebountyhunter
Thu Jun 10, 2004 10:53 am
#13

one way most people forget to trade is droids.

They hold 10 items and 100 waypoints or schematics.

If someone walks off with your droid o well life goes on 50k down the drain but not stuff that's a pain to replace



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