Architect Archive
Thread: Dupers sell for cheap
If you picked architect to make money that was a mistake. This is a combat oriented game and none of the architect products give combat based folks any type of advantage.
People can make plenty of profit for selling much cheaper than you think. Obviously they are not maximizing profit, but they can make profit.
2 med min 1 solar gen costs about 5k per day. I set one on metal one on ore. I get 3000 of each resource per day. I sell 2000metal on the bizarre for 6k credits, wow I already made 1k profit and all the rest of my resources are free. I sell my house for 3-5k, now I have made 4-6k profit.
If you run a large amount of medium or large extractors, you can easily get your cost per resource below .75 credits per.I haven't gotten down to .5since I don't move my extractors a lot and only extract on the highest%. This does not allow for re-deeding costs or the cost of your time. So you can easily sell for cheaper and survive.
Nope, I dont want people using what I say here against me in-game. So I dont use my playing name. What if I decide to raise my prices at some point? ( I might ) What if decide to go into another business.
I am just here to discuss a subject that interests me . Business in the SWG enviornment.
You have an interesting definition of troll, to me a troll is someone that constantly bashes others ( I dont ) and espically the ones that dont even play SWG but constantly bash the game ( lifeless trolls ).
But you can ignroe me, that wont bother me,I can tell you that my customers in-game dont ignore me ![]()
I don't acknowlege hardly any of the posts above. None of you are architects and have no knowledge of what it's like to pay 2k in maintenance for a Heavy, and then 2k for the energy for a 24hour period. Lets break it down for a small and medium house.
Now with a heavy you get about 5k of ore on a good spot. 60%. That is good for ore. It is everywhere in small concentrations. so it costs about 2500 to get 5k of ore. At 2 cr per that reduces your profit to 7500 worth of materials.
Anyway. Small house. 3388 resources. 9 times more then a gun. 12 componants. Figure one fail for one of the structure module. It happens and those resources are lost.So that means another 250 resources. 3638. If you charge 3cr per resource used that is 10,914, 2 cr is 7276. So charging2cr for your house mean,s gues what. You lost money on the deal. If you harvested your own stuff that is. If you paid for anything along the way. I feel sorry for you. So that is just looking at a per resource Scenario. But wait. Why the heck don't i just sell the resources and not worry about fails. Well an architects running all over hell for a good spot and then doingharvestors runs every day has to be worth something?Yes it is.
So in summary, it's a losing battle doing it for 2cr. No business , personal or company can last this long. Well, unless they got there resources for free i.e duping. Fences sell watches out of the trunk of their car for cheap because they stole it.
Ok a medium house. 52 items to construct. 20,600 resources. Figure 1 fail out of 10 for the structure modules, so add 2500. 23,100 resources. At 2cr its 46,200 and at 3 cr 69,300. Again, if you mine your own you don't even break even at 2cr.
Guess what else. If I as an architect fail once on a medium house, I kiss 20k in resources good bye. That is stuff I don't get paid for. That is wasted harvestor credits and power. Architects only get 50 structure assembly points, not 100 like the others so we fail alot.
So, again, if you charge less then 3 cr, you either aredumb or you got your resources forfree. i.e duping.
Og, the big error in your calculation is that recsrouces do not cost 3 cr each.
They do on the bazzar, but I dont buy there. The extractor cost for me is jsut about 1/2 cr each. Now I sell for a whole lot more than that, and my partner in business provides my weapons and other basic items for free ( as I do them )
I am an archetect and I sell for anywhere between 2 and 3 cr per reserouce, but I could sell for 2 or even less and still make a profit, it would take some resroeuce planning, and more math work on my part, but I could do it, there may come a time in this declining market when I need too. Only time will tell.
Everyone has a different goal, getting rich fast is not mine, mine is a sucuessful and good busienss that provides quality products for people ( all kinds of products which is why I have partners ) for substantailly less than the market value. I am having fun putting real world business axioms into the artifical enviornment of SWG to wee how they work, some work, some needed adjustments.
It is an enjoyable modle to play with.
I am not running others down, I certainly dont mean too. I am enjoying the conversation.
( please excuse the typos and spelling errors, I am working and posting at the same time )
Okay, so let me make sure I've got this traight, Og:
"I feel like I can't sell resources for anything belowe 2 cr per unit. Becuase of this, I am going to blindly call anyone willing to sell for less than this amout a cheater..."
Did I get that right? As you said, they may be dumb, may have no interest in making money (why is beyond me, but it's possible), or yes, they may be cheating, but to make a blanket statement like the one you did above is even MORE stupid...
MashRinx
Most of them dont get it, and they are not likely too.
I am having fun too,I wouldnt play if I werent. What strikes some people as strange is that it is the business that I have the most fun with. There are so many wrong assumptions here ( like Og's ) that just crack me up.
Dayln, we no dummy. We all understand that if you harvest your own resources and power and if you find a decent vein, the cost per resource is < 0.45 cr (one fusion ion generator and 7 heavy). And if you don't want to search for the radioactive spot, thus have tobuy your power from a power broker, then the cost per resource go to 0.80 cr. If you buy all resources from a resource broker, then it'll be 2.5 cr per resource.
To each his own. The only drawback to mining your own resources is that you can only mine enough for one house per day. So, everybody else who are screaming he's too cheap, back off. It's the same as a mom-and-pop opening up a hamburger stand and doing everything themselves. They can charge less because they expense their time intead of their money. McDonald can scream all they like, it's a free enterprise system.
Of course, if Dayln want to increase his business by selling more than one house per day, I would like to see his selling for houses that low and still be profitable.