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Thread: Week Three List of 5

Zarcath
Wed Aug 06, 2003 1:52 am
#14



Tempest wrote:

Your reports are well written obviously you spent some time on them but 90% of the issues you are reporting are not Architect problems they are general problemsthat affect anyone. Need to address the real issues. Im sorry if this sounds critical but im seeing you NOT report issues which we are bringing up and need addressing rather like this report 4 of the 5 are not even Architect issues they are issues that affect everyone basically.






What other "real" Architect specific issues are there that haven't already been addressed in previous reports?
docdavee
Wed Aug 06, 2003 6:26 am
#15

Zarcath, do u understand what u are doing. U just listed 5 things 2 weeks ago that exciteded people that they were going to get fixed. Then a week later, u listed 5 things and we were like ok?.. well maybe that means next patch. Now you list 5 more things and make us realize that u aree just like every other architect and listing a bunch of thing that will not be fixed anytime soon. If u really wanted to do your job, u keep on sending teh 5 things from week 1 over and over again till they fix them. Right now u are just pissing us off.



Drdavee
Master Architect
New Destiny
CMC
ShaddamtheIV
Wed Aug 06, 2003 6:53 am
#16

Medium Flora – 21070 total

Heavy Flora - 24400 total



Umm what the hell??? I still cant get my harvesting mechanism schematic to open up to be able to make any of these???


How the hell are people making these to get these numbers??





Shaddam Amydar - Bloodfin (Master Architect) (Master Artisan)
ImLucas
Wed Aug 06, 2003 6:55 am
#17

For crying out loud, people...

Quit flaming the correspondent. You can rip Sony a new (_o_), but please, the correspondent is unpaid and is doing everything right.

Every issue in this current list is a product that we architects make, use AND sell. If that doesn't make it an architect issue, then I don't know what will. Think of this... if a specific gun ate up a ton of resources, and was weaker than a CDEF, don't you think it would be a weaponsmith issue?

Sure, these issues have an effect on some people who aren't architects... but the fact of the matter is: These issues affect EVERY architect.

If you wish to go on complaining about the issues already submitted, then please do so in another thread. This one is meant for submitting NEW issues.

-Loserwan Ka'newbie
Tarquinas, Talus



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ShaddamtheIV
Wed Aug 06, 2003 6:56 am
#18

And why are they taking all this time to nerf such and such class or such and such lair when we still have broken items and broken houses and PA halls????




Shaddam Amydar - Bloodfin (Master Architect) (Master Artisan)
ZeckAzuenden
Wed Aug 06, 2003 7:31 am
#19

Zac is not doing anything wrong, he's just doing exactly what SOE asked him to do. Organize the complaints/issues, and forward 5 of them each week for them to review.


The problem here is that SOE is not giving any feedback to the majority of the playerbase and has all but dissappeard from the boards except for the occasional post lock cause they don't like it.




Zeck Ravenclaw
BH,day one player, Eclipse

RovaniDragon
Wed Aug 06, 2003 8:06 am
#20

the problem is zac cant properly determine what is an bug/issue versus wishlist items.

Its time q Picks a new rep.
Naufragus
Wed Aug 06, 2003 8:31 am
#21

i nominate no_bargain...


he is very experienced from beta, knows all the game well, understands gaming in general and has a firmer grasp on real issues than many of the Holoclown groupies who infest this board.

Tresnar
Wed Aug 06, 2003 8:59 am
#22






RovaniDragon wrote:
the problem is zac cant properly determine what is an bug/issue versus wishlist items.

Its time q Picks a new rep.




You're assuming that there's someone else who wants the job! Everyone I've spoken with in game isplanningto stay as far away fromjob as possible! What a crap job, volunteer, put in a bunch of time, don't get paid, and his reward:He has to deal with us bitching users telling him that he sucks. You're really encouraging the next correspondent to step forward as do a good job with such great rewards.



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RovaniDragon
Wed Aug 06, 2003 9:28 am
#23

your right, no_bargain was very good and i would recommend him as well.
Zarcath
Wed Aug 06, 2003 9:30 am
#24

Dropping the Blueprint Display thing and puttingthis in, a Complexity Re-Balance. Write up is below.







Complexity List


Artisan


Wind - 15
Mineral - 18
Flora - 18
Gas - 18
Chemical - 18
Moisture - 15


Novice


equip - 15
moisture - 15
small tat - 14
small core - 12
small core fp2 - 15
small nab - 13


Buildings I


small core s2fp2 - 18
small core s2 - 16
small nab s2 - 16
small tat s2 - 19
small generic fp2 - 16
small generic - 19


Buildings II


med core - 15
med naboo - 21
med tat - 18
small gen s2 - 23
small core s2fp2 - 22


Buildings III


large core - 25
large naboo - 25
large tat - 25
med gen - 25


Buildings IV


med gen s2 - 35
large core s2 - 32
large gen - 35
large gen s2 - 35


Installations I


wearables - 18
food - 16
structure - 16


Installations II


med mineral - 15
solar - 15
med gas - 21
med chem - 18


Installations III


heavy chem - 25
med flora - 25


Installations IV


heavy moisture - 40
heavy flora - 32
heavy gas - 30
heavy mineral - 35
fusion - 35


Master


Core PA - 45
Gen PA - 39
Tat PA - 36
Nab PA - 45


Novice


potted tree s1 - 15
torch - 15
large potted plant s1 - 15
small potted plant s1 - 15
armoite - 15
loveseat - 14
bookcase - 10
chest - 11
couch - 18


Furniture I


toolchest - 15
cheap cafe table - 12
chair - 10
end table - 9
divan - 15
futon - 15
kitchen chair - 12
loveseat - 16
small table - 14
cafe table - 15
squared metal chair - 11
metal chair - 18
ottoman - 12


Furniture II


small bed - 15
toolchest - 15
reclining chair - 19
cafe chair - 15
upholstered chair - 16
wooden chair - 12
large couch - 20
small couch - 17
droid detection unit - 25
desk lamp - 20
free-standing lamp - 18
table-top lamp - 16
table-top lamp s1 - 19
armoire - 20
bookcase - 15
cabinet - 20
loveseat - 20


Furniture III


ballot box - 25
large bed - 28
couch - 34
chest - 22
chair - 22
data term - 36


Furniture IV


data term - 39
sofa chair - 32
end table - 31
smal modern end table - 24
table - 29
cafe table - 27
dining table - 26


Master


cafe table - 34
end table - 29
couch - 40
armoire - 30
bookcase - 25
chair - 39
loveseat - 31
chest - 25







There is no hard facts on what role complexity plays in creating items and failure rates. However a quick skim over this list and you'll see that the complexities are all over the map.


Even without thehard numbers, a Master level couch should not be on the same complexity levelas aPA hall.


The entire tree needs to be re-balanced. Furniture needs to be lowered in some areas, and Buildings/Installations need to be raised and lowered in others.


Asmall generic house style 2 is almost as complex as a medium house. All the schematics from each tier should be on par with the rest of that tier. Such as what we see in Buildings III, all the schematics are balanced with each other at complexity 25.



RovaniDragon
Wed Aug 06, 2003 9:40 am
#25

heres something i said in beta and would like to repeat here.


WHY in hell do we have a furniture tree? this to me should be in the dom arts tree and not architch tree.

They could easily move the whole tree to dom arts, and give us the player city buildings in there.

ie, basic shuttle port, medium shuttleport, starport.

insurance terminals that are player driven and not dev driven. (ie we set the prices)
Cloning facilities that are also player driven.

Garage for vehicles

Stable for Pets

Town Hall

Mayors House (costs no lots to the current mayor)

Fountains, Gardens, other things that prevent people from dropping a harvester in your back yard.

Walls.




OK, got my wish list off my chest now.
petergriffon
Wed Aug 06, 2003 11:49 am
#26

Excelent once again......just one thing to add and i appologize if someone else comented on this.............along with your email suggestion for the harvesters.......an email when the resourse runs out would be very nice, or an email 24 hours before to warn you of this.




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