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aaronhullett

Tue Feb 17, 2004 11:31 am

Yesterday I gladly accepted an order for 8 BER 10 mineral harvesters insisting I could easily have the order done in a couple of days .I get my light ore mining units up to 93% before they max out (which im sure should be fine for a BER10).I use my highest quality materials (steel 940+ on stats needed and ore 900ish+ on stats needed) and the extraction rate is about 27ish % after construction .However EVERYTIME I experiment I only ever seem to get moderate successes and create about 50% ber 8 and 50% ber9 .I was so confident on filling this order however its seems all those master architech exp points are useless in this situation .Any ideas why Im getting such crappy results after a dozen or so attempts without a BER 10

? Any advice would be helpful and appreciated

Pawlin

Tue Feb 17, 2004 11:36 am

#2

Only advice I know of is to stop making harvesters and take a break. Maybe go fight some Chunkers or something for a bit or craft a few Muzzles. Maybe by then the bad luck will have worn off.

Bad experimentation has seemed to come in spurts like that. I can get a zillion "great successes" with maybe a rare "failure" or "amazing success" thrown in and then one day its nothing but "moderate success" and "critical failure" like 10 in a row.

May just be pure coincidence or bad luck. Or their pseudo random number generator might need a wack in the algorigthm.

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Endar

Tue Feb 17, 2004 3:13 pm

#3

Any chance this is related to the crafting tool or crafting station? Seems unlikely if you get such a good result with the ore mining unit but it might be worth a try if you're not already using the top quality tools.

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CraftDragon

Tue Feb 17, 2004 3:18 pm

#4

could be your crafting station or maybe you used bad chemical.

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MistakenIdent

Tue Feb 17, 2004 3:37 pm

#5

Make sure that the chemical you use on the LOMU is Lube Oil. If it has any UT/SR/HR you bring down your units. 93% should get you to BER 4 on the units, but not sure. Using Losa or Pemi steel (on sunrunner), I can always get to around 95% or better on the LOMU's

In order to get BER 10, your first result (first combime) needs to be at BER 7. This will ensure that you get to BER 10 with one or two exp points left (at around 83-89%) If you are still on BER 8 or 9 when you are at 83% then you won't make a 10.

And again, make sure your using Lube Oil or petrochemical for the chemical, not Fiberplast or Polymer.

Tahqa

Wed Feb 18, 2004 8:49 am

#6

I agree with Pawlin about the random number generator. I think it's out of whack. I can go for literally days on end without a single critical failure and then one day I'll get strings of them in a row. That's when it's time to go whack a few meatlumps.

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aaronhullett

Wed Feb 18, 2004 8:57 am

#7

Thanks for the help guys and yes he was right ive been on this morning and created 4 ber 10s out of 4 using exactly the same material as last night .Now thats weird .....

Naufragus

Wed Feb 18, 2004 10:02 am

#8

sounds like you are a master in name only.

Pawlin

Wed Feb 18, 2004 10:26 am

#9

Naufragus wrote:

sounds like you are a master in name only.

I don't think you meant that as a flame but it could be taken as one.

I think you were saying that even though we are masters we don't get the success rates that a master ought to have?

Pawlin Construction of Kettemoor.
Harvesters and Crafting stations - Triad Coronet Mall just outside Coronet (-177 -5490)
Architect, House, Furniture, Harvester FAQ
Oprolan the Wookiee of Sunrunner. Cheap resources W. Daeric Talus (-639 -3058)
"Worst FF ever *thumbsdown*" -- Pawlin fan club
"I am not going to win Miss Congeniality again this year in the Senate." -- John McCain

** Please refer to Elyssa's answer

mcorey

Wed Feb 18, 2004 2:04 pm

#10

One thing I've noticed is that I get many more moderate/good results when I try to use more than 4 experimentation points at a time. At 4, other than the obvious occasional crit fail or amazing, I get great successes every time.

This suggests that even though that annoying little risk meter shows 0%, attempting larger experiments in one shot are still higher risk than smaller steps.

For the record, I use +15 tools and a +43.24 station in a Research Center.

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ViDMaNiaC

Wed Feb 18, 2004 9:41 pm

#11

as a master crafter I get about 25% failure rates (meaning less than great successes) using 14.90 tools and 40+ stations

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BoberFett

Thu Feb 19, 2004 2:16 am

#12

The fact that you're getting a 27% quality on build is good. This means you're using good materials. I almost invariably get 28% starting with the materials I use which are quite good. I get to BER10 at around 85%, if I recall. Can't say exactly, been a while since I made a medium.

As the others have said, make sure you're using a high quality crafting tool and if possible, use a high quality crafting station in a town that has a research center bonus.

Bandola

Thu Feb 19, 2004 2:26 am

#13

I would certainly check out your crafting tool and station. I used to get poor results in the beginning, I checked my tool (no comments please!) and saw it was around 8.0(+) and 59 %, I got some of that 1000 oq copper and made some new ones at 15.0 and 99%. My crafting station was -11 (or something like that) I invested 50k in a 43+, my results instantly improved and I hardly ever get less than 'great success' now on experimentation.

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